His birth certificate on the gov website STILL TO THIS DAY has layers of forgeries on it. Literally anyone with Photoshop or a free copy of gimp can downloadt it and see the layers
I don't know how it is now, but you didn't need to get a SSN immediately. For example, mine was issued 4 years after birth, when a sibling was born.
There is, however, a factor in getting a passport if your SSN was issued a substantial amount of time after birth in the sense that it's a lot more difficult to do. I can't find that information right off hand but I seem to remember that I fell under that limit by a year or two when I got mine.
edit: looked mine up, it was a year after my brother was born. Probably when I had to start school, and now you know I'm an old shit.
It was on one of his public tax filings like 15 years ago. Certain people with access were able to use the employer verification database and it got leaked. It might have been on some Chicago mortgage docs also.
That number (042-xx-xxxx) was initially issued for a Harrison J Bounel (from Connecticut) that was born in 1890 and died in Hawaii. If Homobama was really from Hawaii, he'd have a SSN that started with a much higher number.
I got my SSN when I was 14 years old back in the early 1970's. I was born in Michigan, but our family had moved to South Carolina. My number begins with a 3-digit number which corresponds to one expected to be issued in South Carolina. Therefore, the issuance of the SSN corresponds to the state/region where you first applied to receive one, not necessarily the state in which you were born. If Barry's number is 042- corresponding to Connecticut, then the number was issued in CT. That said, I am not aware of Obama's entering the workforce for the first time in the State of CT (he went to Harvard not Yale.)
It could also be that someone stole Bounel's SSN identity, whose SSN was issued in CT - coincidentally a man who died in HI -- and created a false SSN ID for Obama when he was a child living in HI.
I read that it belonged to someone born in Connecticut who died before he was old enough to collect SOC Sec so there was nothing in their records to check against when Bummer got his or something along those lines. I saw it posted here earlier today.
Homobama was the deepest and most confusing rabbit hole I climbed through during my early awakening process. Only in the past 4-5 years have I realized that lots of these turns and dead ends were likely put there intentionally.
It's like the C|A dangled all these carrots to flush people like us out of the population so they could add us to their database of "Far Right Extremists".
Regarding your comments about collecting Soc Sec, I believe that Homobama's grandmother worked at a Hawaiian bank (apparently she also had ties to the C|A) and would've had the ability to discreetly cherry pick a clean SSN # that wouldn't raise flags down the road. This was during the age before the internet and Anon's access to public records.
Someone posted here about it being fake. Think he was looking at some SOC SEC stuff DOGE had posted about illegals getting ssn #’s and how #’s show what state you are getting it from. I just re-posted what he had found asking why nobody noticed the numbers.
You may need to draw a distinction between "the CIA," and some CIA stooge that wants to do something on the down-low. There's no shortage of people thinking they are more clever than they are. Sadly, I think it was P. T. Barnum who is credited with saying "There is a sucker born every minute." And he never lost money with the American public.
If he didn't match with the name, Barack Obama, when he was born I believe his last name was Soreto(sp) not sure of the spelling. And his first name was/is Barry. Maybe that is the reason what you have there didn't match. I don't believe he was born in this country, I don't know for certain, but I am just trying to say why the SSN may not match Barack Obama.
Silly me, I thought he was Soretoro before Obama-oh well-thanks for the correction. And it is good to know neither/none of his names matched up with the number.
Now that's a puzzle. If it was never issued, how could it be associated with this Harrison J. Bounel? Something doesn't add up. Maybe the system is saying it was never issued "to Barack Obama." This has to add up to Social Security fraud, at the very least. (And probably passport fraud, since the SSN is used for that also.)
I suppose that code could mean that it was never issued to the person in question.
The date database certainly seems to indicate they would have reissued it in the 70s, if it were eligible to be reissued.
SSNs are a thin veneer of identification. I'm honestly surprised the system hasn't just disintegrated into dust by this point.
edit: did some digging, that code literally means that the number does not exist in the SSN files - i.e. it was not issued to anyone in the 1970s. SSNs aren't reused, so it can't have belonged to Bounel either.
What database provided that result? There may be more information attached to it.
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His birth certificate on the gov website STILL TO THIS DAY has layers of forgeries on it. Literally anyone with Photoshop or a free copy of gimp can downloadt it and see the layers
yes, saw the layers years ago in photoshop
I remember thinking at the time that they were blatantly rubbing it in our faces
oh yeah? show me. it was removed a long time ago. Just because you can still download the long form doesn't mean you can separate the layers still.
It was there 4 months ago, I checked it after seeing someone post a new story about it on X.
His selective service was faked as well.
If he was born in Hawaii in 1961, then his social should begin with 565-46-xxxx. A prefix of 040 through 049 is from Connecticut.
I don't know how it is now, but you didn't need to get a SSN immediately. For example, mine was issued 4 years after birth, when a sibling was born.
There is, however, a factor in getting a passport if your SSN was issued a substantial amount of time after birth in the sense that it's a lot more difficult to do. I can't find that information right off hand but I seem to remember that I fell under that limit by a year or two when I got mine.
edit: looked mine up, it was a year after my brother was born. Probably when I had to start school, and now you know I'm an old shit.
https://stevemorse.org/ssn/ssn.html
All 3 of my kids got one when oldest readying for college and SS # could no longer be avoided. All 3 passports no difficulties.
Interesting. That must not be a thing anymore. Either that, or I misinterpreted the info.
Probably the latter.
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I remember going with my mother to get my social security card. I had to be about 7 or 8.
How did you get Barry's SSN?
It was on one of his public tax filings like 15 years ago. Certain people with access were able to use the employer verification database and it got leaked. It might have been on some Chicago mortgage docs also.
That number (042-xx-xxxx) was initially issued for a Harrison J Bounel (from Connecticut) that was born in 1890 and died in Hawaii. If Homobama was really from Hawaii, he'd have a SSN that started with a much higher number.
I got my SSN when I was 14 years old back in the early 1970's. I was born in Michigan, but our family had moved to South Carolina. My number begins with a 3-digit number which corresponds to one expected to be issued in South Carolina. Therefore, the issuance of the SSN corresponds to the state/region where you first applied to receive one, not necessarily the state in which you were born. If Barry's number is 042- corresponding to Connecticut, then the number was issued in CT. That said, I am not aware of Obama's entering the workforce for the first time in the State of CT (he went to Harvard not Yale.)
It could also be that someone stole Bounel's SSN identity, whose SSN was issued in CT - coincidentally a man who died in HI -- and created a false SSN ID for Obama when he was a child living in HI.
Agreed. Thanks for pointing that out. Lot's of people don't understand that.
I'm from the mid-west so mine starts with a 2, but my kids were born here in New England and their #'s start with a zero like Homobama.
I read that it belonged to someone born in Connecticut who died before he was old enough to collect SOC Sec so there was nothing in their records to check against when Bummer got his or something along those lines. I saw it posted here earlier today.
Homobama was the deepest and most confusing rabbit hole I climbed through during my early awakening process. Only in the past 4-5 years have I realized that lots of these turns and dead ends were likely put there intentionally.
It's like the C|A dangled all these carrots to flush people like us out of the population so they could add us to their database of "Far Right Extremists".
Regarding your comments about collecting Soc Sec, I believe that Homobama's grandmother worked at a Hawaiian bank (apparently she also had ties to the C|A) and would've had the ability to discreetly cherry pick a clean SSN # that wouldn't raise flags down the road. This was during the age before the internet and Anon's access to public records.
Someone posted here about it being fake. Think he was looking at some SOC SEC stuff DOGE had posted about illegals getting ssn #’s and how #’s show what state you are getting it from. I just re-posted what he had found asking why nobody noticed the numbers.
It also mistakenly said his gender was male.
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You'd think the CIA wouldn't be so sloppy with their premier stooge.
This was pre-Internet era, so there's that.
You may need to draw a distinction between "the CIA," and some CIA stooge that wants to do something on the down-low. There's no shortage of people thinking they are more clever than they are. Sadly, I think it was P. T. Barnum who is credited with saying "There is a sucker born every minute." And he never lost money with the American public.
If he didn't match with the name, Barack Obama, when he was born I believe his last name was Soreto(sp) not sure of the spelling. And his first name was/is Barry. Maybe that is the reason what you have there didn't match. I don't believe he was born in this country, I don't know for certain, but I am just trying to say why the SSN may not match Barack Obama.
No, the Soetoro name came later and Barry Soretoro doesn't match up with that SSN, either.
Silly me, I thought he was Soretoro before Obama-oh well-thanks for the correction. And it is good to know neither/none of his names matched up with the number.
The number, if issued, would have been in CT in 1976-77.
That's a moot point since the traceback says it was never issued.
Now that's a puzzle. If it was never issued, how could it be associated with this Harrison J. Bounel? Something doesn't add up. Maybe the system is saying it was never issued "to Barack Obama." This has to add up to Social Security fraud, at the very least. (And probably passport fraud, since the SSN is used for that also.)
I suppose that code could mean that it was never issued to the person in question.
The date database certainly seems to indicate they would have reissued it in the 70s, if it were eligible to be reissued.
SSNs are a thin veneer of identification. I'm honestly surprised the system hasn't just disintegrated into dust by this point.
edit: did some digging, that code literally means that the number does not exist in the SSN files - i.e. it was not issued to anyone in the 1970s. SSNs aren't reused, so it can't have belonged to Bounel either.
What database provided that result? There may be more information attached to it.