If you'd rather not talk politics w/ your Leftist relatives this Easter, here's a tactic to try.
- SALT -
Because Lefties can't help themselves, when (not if) they crap on Trump or anything MAGA is doing to correct the course of this great nation, gently but firmly tell them:
"There's only room this Easter for one religion, and it's not your political ideology or mine or anyone else's. I'll be glad to take it up with you again on Monday, but today we're celebrating what Jesus did for us."
If they can't abide by that, quietly and peacefully find the door. It's what Jesus did.
Happy Easter, Everyone. He is risen!
Leftists almost hate Jesus more than trump. This is a familial landmine
Actually, because Trump is a Jesus figure in our American story, the hatred toward both is IMHO identical. And it makes total sense when you think about it. Marxists are anti-God. To them, anyone who is against Marxism is the Devil, and must be fought against tooth and nail all the way to the end.
Ok, now you're going too far likening Trump to Jesus, this is apparently why as crazy as they are leftists call us a cut. With that I'm out have a great weekend.
I'm not likening them at all. One was the god-man, and the other is just a man.
But this retired English teacher isn't wrong when I say: many good stories have a Jesus figure. Look it up. Morally upright, though not perfect. Sacrificial. Righteous in his or her cause.
You just did, and don't bother replying I'm not coming back.
I taught Literature for twenty years, but clearly, because you can only see it one way, I MUST BE WRONG.
Whatever.
https://www.faith-theology.com/2007/06/25-great-christ-figures-from-novels.html
The figure Trump is likened to is CYRUS.
Several people liken Trump to King Cyrus, including the Sanhedrin, which minted a temple coin (1/2 shekel) with the image of Trump and King Cyrus.
I don't know of anyone rational who is comparing DJT to Christ.
I never compared DJT to Christ.
https://www.faith-theology.com/2007/06/25-great-christ-figures-from-novels.html
Hence changing the “c” in democrat to an “n” for the term “demonrat”
They better not... the punishment always comes instantly in the form of karma.
My daughter is going to her in-law's Easter dinner today. It is a bunch of atheist, democrats who will be drinking all day. She is a Christian conservative. She is driving her own car in case she needs to exit quickly. Sad.
I hear you, Oldgal. In light of today, it's sad.
In light of Eternity? The fact that your daughter was saved from her sins and may need to endure some slings and arrows on behalf of the One who bled and died for her? There's no finer thing, according to what we read in the Epistles.
There's no getting away from the violence in this. Not until we're called to Glory.
But it's my hope today that you would feel a comfort and proper pride about her. Tomorrow she'll be exactly where she's supposed to be, and with good reason. And speaking as a dad of three, one never knows who a situation like that can help prepare her down the line for an even greater moral challenge, right?
Peace.
Thank you so much for your kind words. You are so right. God has us on many paths. It's up to us to see what he wants us to do. Have a blessed Easter. He is risen.
👍👊🚀
Maybe just don't attend altogether.. go to a local church instead. or hang out with you :)
Just don't invite them
For many, this works just fine.
Jesus did not come to make everyone get along and love each other. He came to divide. Do everything out of love and with love. Not with any malice. If they can’t respect that, then they have the choice to walk further away from Christ. And there will be many that continue on into the abyss. It’s their choice. But our duty and responsibility is to try to get them to focus on Jesus and all that He has done for us. We can’t make them believe. Just show them love. Show them the way.
I very much like your plan.
Thanks, 7s. Happy Resurrection Day to you.
Happy Resurrection Day to you.
Thankfully my family doesn't talk about politics at holidays. I dearly love my niece, I don't blame her, it was her leftist step mom that got into this mix in our family. She's no longer welcome to family events so I have hope. I find it easier to just say let's not talk about politics, and lets enjoy being together as a family. It's peaceful without dragging another hot topic into the mix. If I said what you said I'd be the one getting shown the door since we are guests in her house.
And that's okay. Jesus wasn't welcome everywhere, and neither should his followers be.
I was saved in August of 2003. At the time, I had been listening to a lot of Wretched Radio w/ Todd Friel. His Witness Wednesdays, wherein he used Ray Comfort's approach to evangelizing, using the Ten Commandments to help people recognize their need of a savior, was always a favorite of mine.
https://livingwaters.com/are-you-a-good-person/
That Christmas, after the festivities at my sister-in-law's place had begun to die down, I saw an opening w/ my niece and nephew, both of whom were in their early teens at the time.
I took them through the Law, and they answered my questions, more out of genuine curiosity than anything else. Clearly, they had never heard the Gospel presented like this.
When I finished, my sister-in-law's husband told us that I would never again be allowed to share anything about my faith in his house again. I told my wife that, if Jesus wasn't welcome there, we weren't either. And so we left, my wife in tears.
Months later, I brought an olive branch to him and his wife, my sister-in-law, telling them that I meant no disrespect to either of them when sharing, and that I'll never do it again.
But despite the temporary heartache of that day, I was faithful to plant the seed of the Gospel in the minds and hearts of my nephew and niece that day.
There will always be a cost to sharing Jesus in this sin-cursed world. May we never fail in being faithful to share who He is with others.
Thanks for reading. Happy Easter!
If you need to self-censor, perhaps it is your turn to host the next religious holiday?
I don't have the space, and nobody discusses politics at all during holidays it's been that way forever.
That will work for some, so long as you're prepared to ask those who won't stop politicizing the conversation to leave. Count the cost.
When people don't talk about the elephant in the room they would never have an open honest relationship with one another..then it becomes phony, superficial.. what are you gonna talk about? Weather, sports, what new diagnosis you all got from the doctors, latest pill or vitamin to try out, kids and school stuff, price of food and travels? .. everything ultimately leads back to the system designed by the DS cabal and the downfall of our society and societal indoctrination built in lies. So nothing we can talk about doesn't lead back to the flawed system Trump is trying to fix. Even relationship issues can lead back to flawed diets created by big pharma..
Well Easter this next week is the three year anniversary of my mom's death. I would rather spend time with my family thank talk about politics we are still healing from her passing it was a hard time for my family. We have adopted the position of agree to disagree because my family is so stubborn and hardheaded that instead of coming together it would tear us apart. I would rather keep the peace for the little ones in the family than make a holiday about politics. Most of my family is dead, and nobody was vaccinated before you ask. So excuse me if I just want to enjoy their company. Nobody even thinks about politics when we are together we just enjoy each other's company. Why ruin it? Why does a holiday have to be about politics, can't it just be about family?
Hey, if you guys can talk politics and still get along, more power to you. My OP clearly stated: If you'd rather not talk politics...
I just said we don't, and you brought up an equally inflammatory topic to shut down the political talk.
My mistake. I read something in your response wrongly. Apologies.
oh mybad.. I didn't know your situation. Yes, of course, just being with family, especially a small one, is more important
I couldn't disagree more.
The Marxists on the Left want us to believe as they do, not only that everything is political, but that politics is everything.
Honest relating requires that we remind them: there's MUCH more to life than politics.
Just tell them:
"We're not discussing anything... until you can explain to me how Making America Great Again is a bad thing"?
I just don't see that helping. They'll launch into the drivel about original sin of slavery (as if the U.S. is the only nation w/ such a history), and you won't end up avoiding a political discussion.
As I see it, the only way to avert such a distraction (which scratches where they itch) is to immediately draw the line in the sand by saying, "We're not going there today. End of discussion."
if their house on fire, you tell them and they decide not to escape.. it's on them. But if their house is on fire and you kept quiet because you don't want them to argue with you, then it's on you.
You're missing the point entirely. They come to the table with the attitude that they are entitled to talk politics and that, to respect them, we are required to listen.
You want to feed into that? Go right ahead. Not me.
No, I said we should debate them and calmly tell them your point of view and implement logical thinking until their head explode
He Is Risen, Indeed!
Happy Resurrection Day To All:
A couple of favorite Hymns:
Indelible Grace: From Depths of Woe (More a Good Friday Song) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aVWBSmghAs
Up From Grave He Arose: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unAarn9nIFQ
I like your response a lot.
I'll offer a 2nd option in case this option fails:
"Stop acting like a fag and go eat some ham".
OMG LOL YES!
Jesus found the door, all right! Oh boy, did he ever
And therein lies the irony. He not only found the door, but he IS the door. Peace to you!
I'd guess that depending on your goals in life, this strategy could work fantastically. Like say, if your goal in life is to increase the divide among family members more and more based on difference of political and religious opinions, while trying to find ever-more-clever phrases to make yourself feel superior to your lefty relatives, this strategy of yours would work great.
However if you want to strengthen the familial, human-to-human connection between you and your relatives, so that the bond between family members once again becomes stronger than the bond between political parties and ther followers, then you might want to try a different strategy.
Wow. It's like you know me without ever having met me. NOT.
My reason for kindly offering up a strategy to avoid politically-charged conversation on Easter (and it would be charged in our divisive age in which we live) is because of the very fact that for Leftists, politics is their religion. They have a felt need to proselytize others to their beliefs regardless of how it may make others feel. Most are more zealous than the most zealous fundamental Baptist. One can't share in a reasonable discussion with someone so very brainwashed to their cause, be they on the Far Left or the Far Right.
Inviting them to share in a time together APART from politics is the most HUMANE thing a person can do w/ loved ones this Easter.
Swing and a miss, Z.
I'm sorry; I seemed to have missed it. What exactly is the strategy for religious holiday harmony?
Be as courteous as possible. But when somebody wants to take the conversation into the political, kindly remind them that this is a day set apart for this religious remembrance, and that political discussion can only take away from what can be accomplished today.
Every other topic is allowed. But politics is off the table. When asked why? Because politics only ever divides people. And that's not what this holiday is about. Quite the opposite, actually, if you think about it, what with God reconciling Man to Himself and all.
Thank you. What different strategy would you suggest?
I can not speak for everyone here, but I think most of them have been tried and if ANYTHING is effective, I am willing to try.
Please tell us what can be done.
Ok so say your friend Bill still takes the jabs. He's stubborn, but he's not old, so you figure you got some time.
So you avoid that subject completely. No politics, no religion. You just spend time, build up the bond. Invest your care energy into the relationship. You guys hang out. You join him for his poker nights. You grill burgers together. If he likes monopoly, and you think it's boring as shit, but you still play monopoly with him, maybe once or twice.
A few years later, you're like best friends again. He would take a bullet for you. He trusts you now more than he trusts the government. Not because you broke his trust in the government, but because you built up his trust in you, genuinely.
One day you guys are out by the lake, fishing. Nobody's caught anything, but you don't even care. The sun is setting. An orange blaze fills the sky. You go to tell him, "hey Bill, you know that chest pain you been feeling? Are you sure it's not from all those covid jabs?"
But before you can say it, he tells you that he's been doing kundalini yoga for years, and that 3 weeks ago, during a deep meditation, he went into an alternate dimension, met Krishna Jesus and poseidon, and they told him everything, so he's already not taking the jabs anymore. In fact, all the damage to his heart was miraculously reversed by the event. And then a huge trout bites on your line and you grill it up on the fire and live happily ever after
I don’t know how many times I could do this, but honestly I would find a reason to go to the bathroom 😂
Perhaps make reservations at a restaurant with table-side exorcism service?
Pssh. I use those as opportunities to unload redpills. IDC what Romanized pagan holiday it's on!
To each their own.
I'll just say Jesus is turning over in his grave
Hardly. The term, Christ figure, is well-known and in no way takes away from his being a singularity, the only god-man in all of human history.
And he's not in his grave. He is risen!
It's a sarcastic response to what I imagine would be nonsensical and idiotic ideals being bandied about.
It's funny how TDS works in Leftist' nervous system. When they have to restrain themselves from bashing Trump in a workplace or family gathering, they express them in their body language like shaking, twitching, making weird faces, huffing and puffing, getting angry for no reason so a conversation can open up that ultimately leads back to blaming Trump.
Point of story is we're so smart we just smile and eat our food and enjoy their company knowing life is short and glad you weren't jabbed like them, but it's them Dems who will first open their mouths to bash Trump even knowing it would offend you because they cannot help themselves. That, in itself, is their hidden cry for Help, from themselves. So it's now our job to gently and calmly educate them in history and how things work, things they don't get from MSM.. it becomes our job to be a teacher..and if they listen or not, leave that up to the Universe.
I would agree here, except that one can't teach to the brainwashed. It's like the KGB defector and former Soviet propaganda expert said on the Phil Donahue show (and I paraphrase):
Once a person is brainwashed, you can present them with all kinds of conflicting information, but it cannot break the brainwashing.
Pearls before swine. Different context, I know, but it's truly useless and IMHO arrogant to believe that any of us could singlehandedly break through someone's programming.
I never said you will succeed, that is up to God, the Universe, a person's destiny, his own free will. But it's free to try and tell them.. it cost Jesus his life but for us when we can still speak freely I believe we should.