At the very least every single person employed at the CDC, NIH, USPHS who had a role in this should have an opportunity to explain themselves publicly in front of twelve of their peers
I'm not disputing your thread here, Tetartos, but want to add some context. This is from both the paper's Abstract and the Conclusions sections:
"We found all-cause death risks to be even higher for those vaccinated with one and two doses compared to the unvaccinated and that the booster doses were ineffective. We also found a slight but statistically significant loss of life expectancy for those vaccinated with 2 or 3/4 doses."
The loss of life expectancy, while statistically significant (i.e., it registers more than a mere outlying blip on the radar), it is not as widespread as one might think.
All in all, I am still glad that I am unvxx'ed and un-boosted, but I see people around me who eagerly stood in line to get the shots, and who are now experiencing health events ranging from mild to severe.
First, as I said I wasn't disputing your post, only adding context. My response was to that one article, not every article you have posted.
Second, YES, I have seen your various posts on this matter, and yes they do indeed point to a failure in the medical-pharmaceutical industry. The world has been duped into taking a dangerous and untested experimental product that will probably kill off hundreds of thousands before their time and injure millions more.
You and I have no dispute, fren, I appreciate your postings. I merely went to the link in this one article in Slay News to the study that it references and looked at the Abstract and the Conclusion. Once one digs into the mechanics of the published study, you can see beyond the interpretations by a third party, in this case, Slay News.
In the same way that they couldn’t know that a vaccine was even slightly safe long term when it was tested (or whatever) for less than a few months, we probably don’t know that life expectancy has gone down thirty years in four years.
Allegedly, 80% of the United States took one shot. 70% took two, and 30% took 3 or more.
As much as being right is usually nice, I don’t think we want this to be true, and am doubtful this can be known yet anyway.
Have faith that God’s faithful will be delivered in spite of their sins and the wicked will be judged.
The same gameplan as during the plandemic still holds.
Reads like you're uneducated to the real timeline of events and unable to look in to mirror. Trump touted alternatives for at least six months but "muh drink bleach!" and "muh hydrocychloroquine kills!" and more! You and the people of this world made fun of him and he gave up. The people didn't want it. They wanted the vaccine.
I would say the vaccine was forced on many many people, and now they will have medical issues for life because of the vaccine, which isn’t a vaccine. They changed the definition of vaccine in order to call the ‘clot shot’ a vaccine. Nuremberg II is called for, for anyone who coerced people into taking it.
There was nothing rude about my reply. The word ignorant is not rude. It simply means uninformed. Stupid people take a negative connotation to that. One can't accommodate for the stupidity of who they converse with. Also remember these people didn't give two shits about my feelings when they cheered locking me down, locking me up in a concentration camp, threatened to prevent my authorization to purchase food, or hold a job. Nor when my email was banned from my state congressperson's inbox, or when I had to deal with people getting in my face at my kids' schools, kicked my kids out of school probably emotionally scarring them for life, gotten kicked out of grocery stores, business such as home Depot where managers and employees surrounded me, shoving matches, being followed to my car as they took photos of me and my license plate ... I can go on but here's some rudeness for you. They can fuck off. I suffered for years. That suffrage consumed my entire life living in a blue city, refusing to wear a mask and that suffrage I endured actually saved THEM more than me. It was literally from the time I woke up to the time I slept all about fighting covid and dealing with these psychopaths. I will never forget.
Trump provided the funds to produce a vaccine to end a pandemic caused by a gain of function lab in Wuhan which was funded by the NIH (Fauci) thru echo health (Hunter, Dazak).
Trump did nit mix these untested concoctions that were later mandated by Biden's admin and most world governments.
Just for the record, my wife took three covid shots, one flu shot, one shingles shot and, today, TWO shots for tetanus because she got stung by a wasp.
She's 71 and as fit as a lop. If her life has been reduced by 30 years then that's sad because she could have lived past 100. That said, she ain't dropped dead yet.
Apparently one shot was for immediate protection and one was for 10 year protection. Maybe I should write "protection". Yes, I'm amazed that she's still alive. She won't listen to me and, on the odd occasion when I'm clearly right about something, she flies into a rage. Thankfully, she's not the slightest bit interested in politics but she worked in hospitals all her life so she trusts medical "experts".
No they dont. My brother in laws mother in laws was 82 and she got 3 covid vaccines. If it cuts of 30 years then you are saying if she dies today she would have lived to 112 without the vaccine.
I know lots of old people that had 2 or more covid vax and they are still alive and they are all in their late 70s or 80s. So that makes no sense at all unless they did not put the poison in the Canadian vaccines.
I wasnt being disrespectful at all. I think that is your problem. By the way I did not take the vaccine and neither did my husband but everyone else we know did. Because we are seniors and we know a lot of seniors that took the vaccine many times and they are all fine.
It would be hard for me to say to them you could lose 30 years of your life when they are almost all close to the end of their life anyway.
How ever we do know lots who were younger and took the vaccine and they are having problems. That includes miocarditis for our 23 year old nephew and a turbo cancer that killed our 50 year old friend. The guy next door was also in his 50s and died of turbo cancer .
All I said to you is we know many seniors that did get vaxxed at least 2 times many more and they are not having any problem at all.
I'm still reading through it, but I don't view slaynews as a completely reliable publication so I think it's important that we actually read the study before spreading this data.
The embedded interview with Steve Kirsch does appear to be related to this study:
My mother lives in an Association with a lot of elderly a d she told me yesterday a lot of health complications and suddenlies are the norm. We are at the 4 year mark of the vaccines. The elbow of the hockey stick is perhaps upon us.
I keep seeing these “studies” and videos projecting deadly this deadly that…. Yet the hospitals and clinics still pushing the vaccine claiming its effectiveness. IMO. If you took the fauchi ouchi it’s not good but I’m not buying into any of these “studies”. Just an echo chamber of bs from overseas. You’re not going to convince sheeple until the flock start dropping like flies.
Yes I know this. My own family has had major issues. I’ve posted this before multiple times. There have been wierd sudden deaths everywhere here locally. My point is…. These “studies” don’t mean shit until they are believed by sheep. I’ve seen 1000 of these videos all saying the same shit. Nobody believes it except us. It’s an echo chamber. You figure out how to punch through the sheeposphere and now you’ve accomplished something, or a video from a left wing entity, until then it’s just the same shit, different day. Nobody believes me and they won’t believe this.
I’m NOT vaxxed but entire family but my kids are. I haven’t had 1 person… Not 1.. that believes what I tell them. Until a video emerges from a left winger it won’t work even if their family members are dying right in front of them. Just MO. Good luck anon!
Made with Chat GPT : A word-for-word comparison of the Slay News piece with the numbers reported in the peer-reviewed Italian study in Microorganisms uncovers three almost mechanical mismatches:
Leaping from a two-year observation window to lifetime expectancy—an abusive change of scale
– The study reports the Restricted Mean Survival Time (RMST): over 739 days of follow-up, people who had two doses lived on average 2.7 days less than the unvaccinated, yielding a Restricted Mean Time Lost (RMTL) that is 37 percent higher (10.1 days vs 7.4).
– Slay News turns that “37 percent” into “37 percent of an 80-year lifespan,” and proclaims ≈ 30 years of life lost. But RMTL only compares the fraction of life lost within the two years studied, not across a whole lifetime.
– Even the study authors warn that any extrapolation—including their illustrative one of +3.6 months if you stretch 2.7 days across Italy’s average life expectancy of 82.6 years—“may not be a realistic prediction.”
Confusing an instantaneous risk ratio with years of life lost
– After adjustment, the study shows a hazard ratio (HR) of 1.98 for people with two doses: at any instant during follow-up, their chance of dying was almost double that of the unvaccinated. But an HR is not a measure of time; it cannot be read directly as “years” or “months.”
– Slay News blends HR, RMTL, and life expectancy into a single number and attributes it to the “McCullough Foundation,” without distinguishing units or statistical meaning.
Ignoring other dose groups and the true order of magnitude
– For people with three or four doses, the absolute loss is just 0.8 day over 579 days (RMTL + 17 percent). The authors call this deficit “small but significant”—nowhere near a decades-long hemorrhage.
– The Slay News article also skips the catalogue of biases carefully discussed by the researchers (harvesting effect, calendar-time bias, 14-day case-counting window, healthy-vaccinee bias). Imperfectly corrected, these can inflate or shrink the gaps, but they still cannot conjure thirty years of difference out of thin air.
Bottom line
Slay News applies a simplistic rule-of-three—37 percent × 80 years—to a statistic for which that math simply does not work. The Italian study finds only a relative loss of days within a two-year span, and the authors emphasize its limited, provisional nature and the many potential biases involved. Consequently, the headline claim of a thirty-year collapse in life expectancy for the vaccinated finds no support in the original data: it stems from an out-of-context extrapolation and a unit-shifting error (days → years) that magnifies the signal by roughly a thousandfold.
At the very least every single person employed at the CDC, NIH, USPHS who had a role in this should have an opportunity to explain themselves publicly in front of twelve of their peers
At the very least, those who were exempted from taking the shots, while pushing it into others, should be forced to take every single shot available.
Yeah and WHY they were exempted from getting the vaccine that they said should be mandated to everyone else!
Right here is where it never made any sense!
right before they get shoved overboard
They were also exempt from the death jab
I'm not disputing your thread here, Tetartos, but want to add some context. This is from both the paper's Abstract and the Conclusions sections:
"We found all-cause death risks to be even higher for those vaccinated with one and two doses compared to the unvaccinated and that the booster doses were ineffective. We also found a slight but statistically significant loss of life expectancy for those vaccinated with 2 or 3/4 doses."
The loss of life expectancy, while statistically significant (i.e., it registers more than a mere outlying blip on the radar), it is not as widespread as one might think.
All in all, I am still glad that I am unvxx'ed and un-boosted, but I see people around me who eagerly stood in line to get the shots, and who are now experiencing health events ranging from mild to severe.
First, as I said I wasn't disputing your post, only adding context. My response was to that one article, not every article you have posted.
Second, YES, I have seen your various posts on this matter, and yes they do indeed point to a failure in the medical-pharmaceutical industry. The world has been duped into taking a dangerous and untested experimental product that will probably kill off hundreds of thousands before their time and injure millions more.
You and I have no dispute, fren, I appreciate your postings. I merely went to the link in this one article in Slay News to the study that it references and looked at the Abstract and the Conclusion. Once one digs into the mechanics of the published study, you can see beyond the interpretations by a third party, in this case, Slay News.
In the same way that they couldn’t know that a vaccine was even slightly safe long term when it was tested (or whatever) for less than a few months, we probably don’t know that life expectancy has gone down thirty years in four years.
Allegedly, 80% of the United States took one shot. 70% took two, and 30% took 3 or more.
As much as being right is usually nice, I don’t think we want this to be true, and am doubtful this can be known yet anyway.
Have faith that God’s faithful will be delivered in spite of their sins and the wicked will be judged.
The same gameplan as during the plandemic still holds.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=1woiiOxpJ4M
u/#catdance
I do not believe 80% of Americans took the shot. Not when each one of us know as many people that we do who are not vaxxed.
That number may be fake as well, yes.
I unfortunately can't think of a single person off the top of my head that I know / knew IRL who didn't get vaccinated aside from me and my wife.
Cowards mostly.
I'm forever grateful God knocked the fear of death out of me so many years ago.
Keep holding, they’ll make a comeback!
Still shaking it boss!
Operation WARP SPEED??? What was that about? Why Did Trump participate in producing a shot that kills people?
Reads like you're uneducated to the real timeline of events and unable to look in to mirror. Trump touted alternatives for at least six months but "muh drink bleach!" and "muh hydrocychloroquine kills!" and more! You and the people of this world made fun of him and he gave up. The people didn't want it. They wanted the vaccine.
I would say the vaccine was forced on many many people, and now they will have medical issues for life because of the vaccine, which isn’t a vaccine. They changed the definition of vaccine in order to call the ‘clot shot’ a vaccine. Nuremberg II is called for, for anyone who coerced people into taking it.
There was nothing rude about my reply. The word ignorant is not rude. It simply means uninformed. Stupid people take a negative connotation to that. One can't accommodate for the stupidity of who they converse with. Also remember these people didn't give two shits about my feelings when they cheered locking me down, locking me up in a concentration camp, threatened to prevent my authorization to purchase food, or hold a job. Nor when my email was banned from my state congressperson's inbox, or when I had to deal with people getting in my face at my kids' schools, kicked my kids out of school probably emotionally scarring them for life, gotten kicked out of grocery stores, business such as home Depot where managers and employees surrounded me, shoving matches, being followed to my car as they took photos of me and my license plate ... I can go on but here's some rudeness for you. They can fuck off. I suffered for years. That suffrage consumed my entire life living in a blue city, refusing to wear a mask and that suffrage I endured actually saved THEM more than me. It was literally from the time I woke up to the time I slept all about fighting covid and dealing with these psychopaths. I will never forget.
Trump provided the funds to produce a vaccine to end a pandemic caused by a gain of function lab in Wuhan which was funded by the NIH (Fauci) thru echo health (Hunter, Dazak). Trump did nit mix these untested concoctions that were later mandated by Biden's admin and most world governments.
That also was paid for with our tax dollars. Be patient. NCSWIC
Just for the record, my wife took three covid shots, one flu shot, one shingles shot and, today, TWO shots for tetanus because she got stung by a wasp.
She's 71 and as fit as a lop. If her life has been reduced by 30 years then that's sad because she could have lived past 100. That said, she ain't dropped dead yet.
Apparently one shot was for immediate protection and one was for 10 year protection. Maybe I should write "protection". Yes, I'm amazed that she's still alive. She won't listen to me and, on the odd occasion when I'm clearly right about something, she flies into a rage. Thankfully, she's not the slightest bit interested in politics but she worked in hospitals all her life so she trusts medical "experts".
Ευχαριστώ, φίλε μου.
No they dont. My brother in laws mother in laws was 82 and she got 3 covid vaccines. If it cuts of 30 years then you are saying if she dies today she would have lived to 112 without the vaccine.
I know lots of old people that had 2 or more covid vax and they are still alive and they are all in their late 70s or 80s. So that makes no sense at all unless they did not put the poison in the Canadian vaccines.
I wasnt being disrespectful at all. I think that is your problem. By the way I did not take the vaccine and neither did my husband but everyone else we know did. Because we are seniors and we know a lot of seniors that took the vaccine many times and they are all fine.
It would be hard for me to say to them you could lose 30 years of your life when they are almost all close to the end of their life anyway.
How ever we do know lots who were younger and took the vaccine and they are having problems. That includes miocarditis for our 23 year old nephew and a turbo cancer that killed our 50 year old friend. The guy next door was also in his 50s and died of turbo cancer .
All I said to you is we know many seniors that did get vaxxed at least 2 times many more and they are not having any problem at all.
First, here's a link to the actual study: https://www.mdpi.com/2076-2607/12/7/1343
I'm still reading through it, but I don't view slaynews as a completely reliable publication so I think it's important that we actually read the study before spreading this data.
The embedded interview with Steve Kirsch does appear to be related to this study:
https://rumble.com/v6s1939-3-decades-wiped-from-life-expectancy-of-covid-vaxxed.html
...noticing more 50+yrs. obits
Cheezeits... that's bad.
Say hi to motorboat Jocelyn for me...
Please get booby trapped for us...😁
So THAT'S why you're not sleeping...
My mother lives in an Association with a lot of elderly a d she told me yesterday a lot of health complications and suddenlies are the norm. We are at the 4 year mark of the vaccines. The elbow of the hockey stick is perhaps upon us.
u/#ummwhat
I keep seeing these “studies” and videos projecting deadly this deadly that…. Yet the hospitals and clinics still pushing the vaccine claiming its effectiveness. IMO. If you took the fauchi ouchi it’s not good but I’m not buying into any of these “studies”. Just an echo chamber of bs from overseas. You’re not going to convince sheeple until the flock start dropping like flies.
Yes I know this. My own family has had major issues. I’ve posted this before multiple times. There have been wierd sudden deaths everywhere here locally. My point is…. These “studies” don’t mean shit until they are believed by sheep. I’ve seen 1000 of these videos all saying the same shit. Nobody believes it except us. It’s an echo chamber. You figure out how to punch through the sheeposphere and now you’ve accomplished something, or a video from a left wing entity, until then it’s just the same shit, different day. Nobody believes me and they won’t believe this.
I’m NOT vaxxed but entire family but my kids are. I haven’t had 1 person… Not 1.. that believes what I tell them. Until a video emerges from a left winger it won’t work even if their family members are dying right in front of them. Just MO. Good luck anon!
Made with Chat GPT : A word-for-word comparison of the Slay News piece with the numbers reported in the peer-reviewed Italian study in Microorganisms uncovers three almost mechanical mismatches:
Leaping from a two-year observation window to lifetime expectancy—an abusive change of scale – The study reports the Restricted Mean Survival Time (RMST): over 739 days of follow-up, people who had two doses lived on average 2.7 days less than the unvaccinated, yielding a Restricted Mean Time Lost (RMTL) that is 37 percent higher (10.1 days vs 7.4). – Slay News turns that “37 percent” into “37 percent of an 80-year lifespan,” and proclaims ≈ 30 years of life lost. But RMTL only compares the fraction of life lost within the two years studied, not across a whole lifetime. – Even the study authors warn that any extrapolation—including their illustrative one of +3.6 months if you stretch 2.7 days across Italy’s average life expectancy of 82.6 years—“may not be a realistic prediction.”
Confusing an instantaneous risk ratio with years of life lost – After adjustment, the study shows a hazard ratio (HR) of 1.98 for people with two doses: at any instant during follow-up, their chance of dying was almost double that of the unvaccinated. But an HR is not a measure of time; it cannot be read directly as “years” or “months.” – Slay News blends HR, RMTL, and life expectancy into a single number and attributes it to the “McCullough Foundation,” without distinguishing units or statistical meaning.
Ignoring other dose groups and the true order of magnitude – For people with three or four doses, the absolute loss is just 0.8 day over 579 days (RMTL + 17 percent). The authors call this deficit “small but significant”—nowhere near a decades-long hemorrhage. – The Slay News article also skips the catalogue of biases carefully discussed by the researchers (harvesting effect, calendar-time bias, 14-day case-counting window, healthy-vaccinee bias). Imperfectly corrected, these can inflate or shrink the gaps, but they still cannot conjure thirty years of difference out of thin air.
Bottom line Slay News applies a simplistic rule-of-three—37 percent × 80 years—to a statistic for which that math simply does not work. The Italian study finds only a relative loss of days within a two-year span, and the authors emphasize its limited, provisional nature and the many potential biases involved. Consequently, the headline claim of a thirty-year collapse in life expectancy for the vaccinated finds no support in the original data: it stems from an out-of-context extrapolation and a unit-shifting error (days → years) that magnifies the signal by roughly a thousandfold.