Elon Musk Proves the Apollo 11 Mission was a Fraud
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You must be right based on this info. Elon would know for sure.
Not likely. The last Apollo mission was in 1972. Musk was born in 1971. He knows little about it.
Maybe you didn't notice that he has spent billions of dollars in his effort to get to mars. He knows at least as much as NASA does about space. He said that his rocket engines would require much more fuel and his rocket engines are VASTLY superior to what NASA used on the Saturn V.
Not necessarily superior, just designed to be reusable using totally different fuel. The Saturn 5 rockets were one and done. No concern to be reused, just maximum thrust for a short amount of time. Everything about the moon missions were designed to get them there and back one time per vehicle. Massive effort by many companies across the country.
Raptor is the most advanced rocket engine ever flown. Superior to the F1 in every possible metric
It is more than a matter of rocket engines and fuel. It has to do with a thing called the "rocket equation," which relates the masses required to attain velocity in a single stage, based on the propellant selection. The Apollo solution was a multi-stage vehicle with extremely high-performing propellants in the launch vehicle upper stages. Each stage was drastically smaller as you went up the stack. And nothing much was brought back. Elon has no experience with this approach, and basically his whole SpaceX approach was to take a different path for cheap transportation to orbit. Not by any means a good solution for going to the Moon. His big Booster would make a good first stage, but then he needs upper stages using hydrogen-oxygen propellants and a final stack that is maybe a more modern version of the Service Module, Command Module, and Lunar Excursion Module. But he is planning to use a version of his Starship as the Lunar Excursion Module. That is a huge mass to send to the Moon, thus the fueling penalty for getting it into orbit in the first place.
I did launch vehicle system engineering for a living. I have been following Elon Musk from the beginning. I worked with the people who developed and built the Saturn V first stage. He has the wrong solution to get to the Moon.
That makes me feel a bit better about it. Making the motor reusable would seem to change the calculus significantly. I know visiting NASA and seeing the Saturn V in person was mind blowing when I was a kid.
The Moon rocks are not fake. The telephone conversations were in fact live, since the transmission delay to the Moon is about one second. The camera tilt (not pan) was accomplished by a spring-driven mechanism activated by a timer upon stage ignition. The Moon Buggy was designed to be folded into a compact form (developed at Boeing). The docking maneuver was practiced many times on simulators, and the astronauts were mostly former test pilots anyway. Did you wish them to fail? Photos with Hasselblad cameras with shutters adapted for gloves. There is no "etc., etc." Just a lot of people who don't care to learn how it was accomplished.
wrong, it was actuated by a controller (person) on the ground and it took three tries to get it right (which is why Apollo 17 was the first one with the great ascent footage)
Excellent news! I was under the impression that shot was a first-time try. But I am happy to learn that it was indisputably real, as news for those who think it was faked. Thanks for the correction!
You are correct. They are definitely rocks, that actually exist.
Are they from the moon? Eh.
That's where they came from, and I recall reading that they were unlike any Earthly rocks.
Sickening to watch people become dumbed down.
It was so well documented.
Great achievement.
Man was created in God's image. A very high intellect.
This is the terrible effect of Radical Skepticism, the epistemological view that you cannot trust anyone to tell you the truth. It destroys the ability to learn from civilization, and even can invade one's view of family members. It finally short circuits into Solipsism, where one's own mind is held as the ultimate reality. This is a break with reality that is the basis of psychosis. I think a lot of it is fueled by foolish pride: "I'm too smart to be fooled, and I can tell that everyone is lying to me."
Moon rocks have been faked. NASA gave out fake moon rocks to foreign governments. The rocks were later discovered to be petrified wood. Why give out fake moon rocks if you have real ones?
Just to play devil’s advocate, why share such privy intel with would be competitors.
Because NASA didn't give out fake Moon rocks. The petrified wood item was a hoax. https://moonhoaxdebunked.blogspot.com/2017/07/98-how-come-moon-rock-donated-to.html Real low effort anons here.
If they can’t imagine how it was done then they think it is impossible to do. This attitude is prevalent in what call the younger generation. Keep in mind I was in high school in 1969, i watched it live on TV. The best movies of the time could not come close to mimicking the movement of the astronauts on the moon with its lower gravity. I don’t believe Musk, his case of TDS has affected his thinking, that or the drugs.
Oh, Musk's approach probably would require an inordinate number of fueling missions. That's built into the reality of his delivery-truck system design. He doesn't know how to slenderize it for the sake of an efficient Moon mission. That would take about as much money to do as it took the Apollo program who knew from the beginning it was the only way it could be done with the resources at their disposal. But, ditto. We are of an age.
I'm starting to believe it was faked too.