It's an interesting take but to my mind not a deep enough dive. You notice it's all about cholecalciferol (vitamin D3) but they don't even mention ergocalciferol (vitamin D2). Most people who supplement though it is D3.
So easy to overlook the delicate balance between D and magnesium and calcium in the body. Get the balance wrong and yes it's true you can get really messed up. It's not that D is good or bad it's the balance.
I had a frozen shoulder, or thought I did, but the truth was on x-ray there was a bright white tendon which had calcified and consequently did not work properly. I was trying to fix the shoulder with physio but once I knew the truth a magnesium glycinate supplement worked great by sucking the calcium right back out again.
Exactly. You actually need significantly more vit D than the recommended value. Now that I mention it, that is also the case with most vitamins and nutrients. Vitamin D is one of the more important one though along with vitamin C.
Yes. You must be careful with vitamin D to not get too much. But the problem remains that most folks get too little. Vitamin C, if you take too much you just pee it out.
There is no paradox here. Did you know that at high dosess even soy sauce can kill you? And yet millions of people everyday squirt sou sauce on everything they eat.
That was a super interesting article. While they tell you they are testing your vitamin d levels they may be actually testing your bodies response to poison. Wow.
When rats consume Vitamin D, it causes high levels of calcium and phosphorous into their blood streams, which ends in kidney and liver failure, it is toxic to them. A human can mess up their liver by taking too much, but it would have to be way over what ever a doctor prescribes. It is always a good idea if your doc wants to run bloodwork for Vitamin D levels. I was low for years, and taking it made such a difference to me. I take 2000 units a day. Dont recommend sun to me, I have an auto immune disease and sunlight , UV, is like being radiated to me, complications from long term Lyme disease. For years I worked outdoors in the garden, rowed my boat on lakes, never burned, loved summer. Now, I cover up and avoid the hours between 11 and 3, so, I have to take it. That and living up near the Quebec border, it gets dark through fall and winter. Rats succumb to certain things that other creatures do not, they have a weird digestive process, that is why vitamin d is in their poisons. I use something called ratx on them, all it is is corn gluten and salt, something in that combo shuts down their system, and they do not experience thirst, and dehydrate to death, where as the same formula does not harm any critter having the same snack. Calcium absorption for humans is aided by Vitamin A and D, when rats ingest it, it draws all that calcium and phosphourous from their own bones and from whatever they may eat, this causes calcification of their hearts, arteries, etc, and they die.
No, it is managed, I can still get flares that wipe me out if I slip up on diet, or, sun exposure. I have some triggers which I have learned to take seriously. It is something that, at my age, would be impossible to kill off without killing me, I am 75 and have had it for a long time, so much so that my immune system is the biggest danger, but, as I said, it is managed and most days are symptom free.
The whole problem with this article is that the author starts off with no understanding of Vitamin D3's cofactors.
The reason D3 can be used as a rat poison is because it depletes the rats' vitamin K2 levels, which then triggers hypercalcemia. If you added vitamin K2 to the rat poison, it would no longer be a poison—in fact, it would make the rats healthier. Yes, it also depletes magnesium. And if someone experiences negative effects from taking a high dose of D3 immediately, it is always due to triggering symptoms of magnesium deficiency. At very high doses that some humans take—like 100,000 to 300,000 IUs per day—it usually takes about 4 to 6 months to trigger a toxic vitamin K2 deficiency, leading to hypercalcemia. After even longer periods of high-dose D3, you eventually get induction of boron and zinc deficiencies, as well as vitamin A. These are all cofactors that D3 uses up in its processes. In fact, there is no such thing as vitamin D3 toxicity—that is just an old doctor’s tale. What you are really seeing are just various cofactor deficiencies induced by high-dose D3 consuming them. D3 itself is completely non-toxic. The author would be better off if he would spend some time reading the book "The Miraculous Cure for and Prevention of All Diseases—What Doctors Never Learned."
From Robert Yoho, MD
D is the most important wonder vitamin, and we have substantial backing for this.
Is cholecalciferol derived from rat poison? Yes, cholecalciferol is used in some rat and mouse poisons, where it functions as a non-anticoagulant rodenticide. The vitamin D3-based poison works by causing life-threateningly high calcium and phosphorus levels, leading to severe kidney failure and tissue mineralization. It was developed as an alternative to anticoagulant rodenticides and is now commonly found in various bait forms. Answer is AI generated.
Rats are not humans. I would take a guess their metabolism is different in many ways from humans. Many substances that are toxic to one life form are beneficial to others. The diet of dung beetles immediately comes to mind.
google says > Vitamin D3 is good for humans at normal doses, but kills rats and mice because the high doses in rodenticides cause a life-threatening buildup of calcium in the blood, a condition called hypercalcemia, which leads to kidney failure, heart abnormalities, and tissue mineralization, resulting in death. While the basic mechanism is the same for all mammals, rodents are much more susceptible to toxicity from cholecalciferol (activated vitamin D3) due to their smaller body mass and the massive quantities of the substance in the bait
The whole problem with this article is that the author starts off with no understanding of Vitamin D3's cofactors.
The reason D3 can be used as a rat poison is because it depletes the rats' vitamin K2 levels, which then triggers hypercalcemia. If you added vitamin K2 to the rat poison, it would no longer be a poison—in fact, it would make the rats healthier. Yes, it also depletes magnesium. And if someone experiences negative effects from taking a high dose of D3 immediately, it is always due to triggering symptoms of magnesium deficiency. At very high doses that some humans take—like 100,000 to 300,000 IUs per day—it usually takes about 4 to 6 months to trigger a toxic vitamin K2 deficiency, leading to hypercalcemia. After even longer periods of high-dose D3, you eventually get induction of boron and zinc deficiencies, as well as vitamin A. These are all cofactors that D3 uses up in its processes. In fact, there is no such thing as vitamin D3 toxicity—that is just an old doctor’s tale. What you are really seeing are just various cofactor deficiencies induced by high-dose D3 consuming them. D3 itself is completely non-toxic. The author would be better off if he would spend some time reading the book "The Miraculous Cure for and Prevention of All Diseases—What Doctors Never Learned."
From Robert Yoho, MD
D is the most important wonder vitamin, and we have substantial backing for this.
It's an interesting take but to my mind not a deep enough dive. You notice it's all about cholecalciferol (vitamin D3) but they don't even mention ergocalciferol (vitamin D2). Most people who supplement though it is D3.
So easy to overlook the delicate balance between D and magnesium and calcium in the body. Get the balance wrong and yes it's true you can get really messed up. It's not that D is good or bad it's the balance.
I had a frozen shoulder, or thought I did, but the truth was on x-ray there was a bright white tendon which had calcified and consequently did not work properly. I was trying to fix the shoulder with physio but once I knew the truth a magnesium glycinate supplement worked great by sucking the calcium right back out again.
The obvious question is ; has "magnesium glycinate" shown any impact on calcification of arterial plaque ?
There is no substitute for the sunshine.
None whatsoever. And “vitamin” d is a HORMONE
I agree!!
Keep taking your vitamin D. Remember "horse paste?" Same crowd.
I’m going this direction until a couple decades proves otherwise.
Exactly. You actually need significantly more vit D than the recommended value. Now that I mention it, that is also the case with most vitamins and nutrients. Vitamin D is one of the more important one though along with vitamin C.
Yes. You must be careful with vitamin D to not get too much. But the problem remains that most folks get too little. Vitamin C, if you take too much you just pee it out.
Yes, that is very true.
The reasons for things aren't always as nefarious as you think.
The reason why they use it is because it's less likely to seriously poison humans if accidentally ingested by retards or toddlers.
The wrong amount of anything is bad for you.
There is no paradox here. Did you know that at high dosess even soy sauce can kill you? And yet millions of people everyday squirt sou sauce on everything they eat.
That was a super interesting article. While they tell you they are testing your vitamin d levels they may be actually testing your bodies response to poison. Wow.
When rats consume Vitamin D, it causes high levels of calcium and phosphorous into their blood streams, which ends in kidney and liver failure, it is toxic to them. A human can mess up their liver by taking too much, but it would have to be way over what ever a doctor prescribes. It is always a good idea if your doc wants to run bloodwork for Vitamin D levels. I was low for years, and taking it made such a difference to me. I take 2000 units a day. Dont recommend sun to me, I have an auto immune disease and sunlight , UV, is like being radiated to me, complications from long term Lyme disease. For years I worked outdoors in the garden, rowed my boat on lakes, never burned, loved summer. Now, I cover up and avoid the hours between 11 and 3, so, I have to take it. That and living up near the Quebec border, it gets dark through fall and winter. Rats succumb to certain things that other creatures do not, they have a weird digestive process, that is why vitamin d is in their poisons. I use something called ratx on them, all it is is corn gluten and salt, something in that combo shuts down their system, and they do not experience thirst, and dehydrate to death, where as the same formula does not harm any critter having the same snack. Calcium absorption for humans is aided by Vitamin A and D, when rats ingest it, it draws all that calcium and phosphourous from their own bones and from whatever they may eat, this causes calcification of their hearts, arteries, etc, and they die.
Thanks for that information.
Did you cure your Lyme disease?
No, it is managed, I can still get flares that wipe me out if I slip up on diet, or, sun exposure. I have some triggers which I have learned to take seriously. It is something that, at my age, would be impossible to kill off without killing me, I am 75 and have had it for a long time, so much so that my immune system is the biggest danger, but, as I said, it is managed and most days are symptom free.
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The whole problem with this article is that the author starts off with no understanding of Vitamin D3's cofactors.
The reason D3 can be used as a rat poison is because it depletes the rats' vitamin K2 levels, which then triggers hypercalcemia. If you added vitamin K2 to the rat poison, it would no longer be a poison—in fact, it would make the rats healthier. Yes, it also depletes magnesium. And if someone experiences negative effects from taking a high dose of D3 immediately, it is always due to triggering symptoms of magnesium deficiency. At very high doses that some humans take—like 100,000 to 300,000 IUs per day—it usually takes about 4 to 6 months to trigger a toxic vitamin K2 deficiency, leading to hypercalcemia. After even longer periods of high-dose D3, you eventually get induction of boron and zinc deficiencies, as well as vitamin A. These are all cofactors that D3 uses up in its processes. In fact, there is no such thing as vitamin D3 toxicity—that is just an old doctor’s tale. What you are really seeing are just various cofactor deficiencies induced by high-dose D3 consuming them. D3 itself is completely non-toxic. The author would be better off if he would spend some time reading the book "The Miraculous Cure for and Prevention of All Diseases—What Doctors Never Learned."
From Robert Yoho, MD
D is the most important wonder vitamin, and we have substantial backing for this.
Here is my D draft post due out in 10 days or so
https://robertyoho.substack.com/p/072c884b-918f-4525-8a14-8d646bc0785e
Is cholecalciferol derived from rat poison? Yes, cholecalciferol is used in some rat and mouse poisons, where it functions as a non-anticoagulant rodenticide. The vitamin D3-based poison works by causing life-threateningly high calcium and phosphorus levels, leading to severe kidney failure and tissue mineralization. It was developed as an alternative to anticoagulant rodenticides and is now commonly found in various bait forms. Answer is AI generated.
I have known some that were.
Rats are not humans. I would take a guess their metabolism is different in many ways from humans. Many substances that are toxic to one life form are beneficial to others. The diet of dung beetles immediately comes to mind.
Fascinating. Thanks for posting this. Bonus for his links to Agent 131711, rife with awesome conspiracy digs.
google says > Vitamin D3 is good for humans at normal doses, but kills rats and mice because the high doses in rodenticides cause a life-threatening buildup of calcium in the blood, a condition called hypercalcemia, which leads to kidney failure, heart abnormalities, and tissue mineralization, resulting in death. While the basic mechanism is the same for all mammals, rodents are much more susceptible to toxicity from cholecalciferol (activated vitamin D3) due to their smaller body mass and the massive quantities of the substance in the bait
What is food forbis may be deadly for a rat. Vitamin d is a hormone and we make it in our bodies under tje correct conditions. Fear not.
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The whole problem with this article is that the author starts off with no understanding of Vitamin D3's cofactors.
The reason D3 can be used as a rat poison is because it depletes the rats' vitamin K2 levels, which then triggers hypercalcemia. If you added vitamin K2 to the rat poison, it would no longer be a poison—in fact, it would make the rats healthier. Yes, it also depletes magnesium. And if someone experiences negative effects from taking a high dose of D3 immediately, it is always due to triggering symptoms of magnesium deficiency. At very high doses that some humans take—like 100,000 to 300,000 IUs per day—it usually takes about 4 to 6 months to trigger a toxic vitamin K2 deficiency, leading to hypercalcemia. After even longer periods of high-dose D3, you eventually get induction of boron and zinc deficiencies, as well as vitamin A. These are all cofactors that D3 uses up in its processes. In fact, there is no such thing as vitamin D3 toxicity—that is just an old doctor’s tale. What you are really seeing are just various cofactor deficiencies induced by high-dose D3 consuming them. D3 itself is completely non-toxic. The author would be better off if he would spend some time reading the book "The Miraculous Cure for and Prevention of All Diseases—What Doctors Never Learned."
From Robert Yoho, MD
D is the most important wonder vitamin, and we have substantial backing for this.
Here is my D draft post due out in 10 days or so
https://robertyoho.substack.com/p/072c884b-918f-4525-8a14-8d646bc0785e