Not necessarily. Older generations yeah, they are your typical boomer era Democrats, but the younger generations of priests and nuns seem to be leaning heavily conservative, just like the younger generations in general (specifically boys and men).
The Priesthood was intentionally and evilly infiltrated by reprobates to destroy their most powerful enemy -- the Catholic laity and their relationship with Jesus.
Most of the Church hierarchy has always been filled by less than Holy men whose sole motivation was power over others. All churches, all denominations, all religions are the same. There is a total disconnect between the laity and the hierarchy. Power and control is the motivation.
I am pretty sure that it is the other way around. But the left has made a concerted effort to infiltrate the Catholic Church to damage it. They have also infiltrated other churches as well. It may seem against our way, but they need to be rooted out and rendered persona non grata.
Those are mostly the priests and nuns who grew up with only Vatican 2 doctrine and are full supporters of that. New reports have come out that the vast majority of younger priests and nuns are heavily conservative and support the Latin Mass and going back to tradition. This is hope yet! The younger generations are not totally lost!
That book is amazing. I learned so much about the history of the Church that had never been taught to me before, even after attending Catholic private schools literally from kindergarten through college.
This goes much farther back than just Democrats. These forces coopted the Church all the way back to the last days of the Roman Empire. The Roman elite simply took over when the fall of the Empire, as it had been for centuries, became a foregone conclusion. These elites have been in control of the Roman Church ever since.
Jerusalem had been the center of the Jesus movement since the first days after the resurrection. There was no other central authority in the Church until after Jerusalem had fallen. There were several players on the board: Ephesus, where John based his apostolate in Asia Minor; Antioch, where Paul had launched his ministry and where Irenaeus became a prominent bishop; Israel and Trans Jordan where there were still pockets of Jewish believers from the Jerusalem Church after the destruction. Some were family members of Jesus; Rome, that had large communities of believers - many which had escaped the ravages of war and other calamities. Despite the Roman persecutions, they thrived. All of these groups claimed Apostolic tradition and authority.
After the death of John, his disciple Polycarp became the bishop of John's apostolate in Ephesus. After the martyrdom of Polycarp, Ephesus lost its weight and influence. About the time of the 2nd Jewish Revolt, Antioch was struck with a huge earthquake that pretty much took them out of play. The bishop of Antioch, Irenaeus, was sent to Rome to meet his martyrdom. The 2nd Jewish Revolt decimated many of the remaining Jewish believers from the Jerusalem community that did not escape. That pretty much left Rome as a de facto center for Christianity at the time.
Over the next couple of hundred years, Christianity became the new force in Rome. Many elites became Christian - some in name only. If you can't beat them, join them. The rest is history. There were many changes to Christianity involving theology and tradition made during these days that are still a part of the Roman Church today, and consequently, the rest of Christianity that inherited them. But, that is a discussion for another time and place.
From my experience even in Seattle no. There are liberal infiltrators especially in the Vatican who are waging war against the traditional Latin mass but the upcoming generation of Priests are overwhelmingly conservative.
FSSP and SSPX. Fraternity order of St Peter and Fraternity order of St Pius X parishes are exploding in popularity.
Pre Vatican II is the way to go, but even they are so wary of politics trying to co-op their position. They're focused on hundreds of years not one political term. If the Q plan happened tomorrow they would be one of the last to sign on. They've been organizing their own for 50 years.
Edit - you don't want to hear what they think about Vance if you support him still. he still refuses to baptize his kids.
Edit - you wouldn't know about it unless you knew modern Indians, but there's a way they prefer to mix religious upbringing when an Indian marries a Christian known as "Hindu Catholic". Basically they relate all the Saints to "corresponding" Hindu gods with somewhat similar sounding geneses to honor the Christian side, but the kids still stay within the Hindu faith and don't get baptized.
Vance converted to Catholicism shortly after the birth of his first child and before the second as a result. Converting to straight Hinduism would have killed his political career.
Well yeah, if you haven't been catechized to receive the Eucharist then you aren't allowed to receive it. As Catholics (and you may disagree, that's fine, I'm just stating what Catholics believe) we believe 100% that the Eucharist, through the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass transforms/transubstantiates into the Body and Blood of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. When Christ said, "Take this, and eat, for this IS my Body " He meant it literally. The original word for "eat" in the Greek translation of that verse literally translates to "gnaw" or "to chew," so to physically eat something. If you haven't gone through the rite to receive the Body of our Lord, you cannot receive Him. Meaning you must be baptized and go through the rite of First Holy Communion, which most Catholics go through at around ages 7-9 depending on their readiness, unless you enter into the Church as an adult, then it's whatever age you entered.
Sorry, long explanation!
Anyway, the Latin Mass is not all that common in the US, and has been heavily restricted by the Vatican since the 1960s. Most parishes are not allowed to celebrate Latin Masses unless through special exception. Or if a church is not part of a parish or diocese then they can do whatever they want, typically. Or if a priest holds a private mass (meaning he doesn't publicize it) he can celebrate in Latin and people are allowed to attend, but it can't be "advertised."
The Latin Mass has an extremely long history and it's quite interesting to read up on if you're curious, and I highly recommend, because at the very least you're learning about religious history that the seculars of the world want you to forget.
Again, sorry, long explanation! If you have any other questions feel free to ask and I can try to answer them as best I can! God bless my brother/sister in Christ!
I’d wager most priest and nuns are Demonrats.
Not necessarily. Older generations yeah, they are your typical boomer era Democrats, but the younger generations of priests and nuns seem to be leaning heavily conservative, just like the younger generations in general (specifically boys and men).
My priest said that a lot of liberals became priests in the 70s and 80s, but the recent ones are very conservative.
The Priesthood was intentionally and evilly infiltrated by reprobates to destroy their most powerful enemy -- the Catholic laity and their relationship with Jesus.
Most of the Church hierarchy has always been filled by less than Holy men whose sole motivation was power over others. All churches, all denominations, all religions are the same. There is a total disconnect between the laity and the hierarchy. Power and control is the motivation.
I am pretty sure that it is the other way around. But the left has made a concerted effort to infiltrate the Catholic Church to damage it. They have also infiltrated other churches as well. It may seem against our way, but they need to be rooted out and rendered persona non grata.
I’ve known a lot of priests and nuns in my lifetime and most are bleeding heart liberals who love multiculturalism.
Those are mostly the priests and nuns who grew up with only Vatican 2 doctrine and are full supporters of that. New reports have come out that the vast majority of younger priests and nuns are heavily conservative and support the Latin Mass and going back to tradition. This is hope yet! The younger generations are not totally lost!
So with the last pope being a commie and this one isn’t much better, you seriously believe the Catholic clergy is conservative?
Dr Taylor Marshall’s book Infiltration covers that.
That book is amazing. I learned so much about the history of the Church that had never been taught to me before, even after attending Catholic private schools literally from kindergarten through college.
He’s one of the main podcasts I listen to. Currently reading his new book Christian Patriot. Absolute banger of a book.
Do you mean the Dr. Taylor Marshall who is BFF friends with the two Islamic sympathizers, Candace and 'sissy" soy boy Georgie.?
Pretty sure he's not friends with Candace, never heard that before.
Yeah we don’t worship Israel.
This goes much farther back than just Democrats. These forces coopted the Church all the way back to the last days of the Roman Empire. The Roman elite simply took over when the fall of the Empire, as it had been for centuries, became a foregone conclusion. These elites have been in control of the Roman Church ever since.
Jerusalem had been the center of the Jesus movement since the first days after the resurrection. There was no other central authority in the Church until after Jerusalem had fallen. There were several players on the board: Ephesus, where John based his apostolate in Asia Minor; Antioch, where Paul had launched his ministry and where Irenaeus became a prominent bishop; Israel and Trans Jordan where there were still pockets of Jewish believers from the Jerusalem Church after the destruction. Some were family members of Jesus; Rome, that had large communities of believers - many which had escaped the ravages of war and other calamities. Despite the Roman persecutions, they thrived. All of these groups claimed Apostolic tradition and authority.
After the death of John, his disciple Polycarp became the bishop of John's apostolate in Ephesus. After the martyrdom of Polycarp, Ephesus lost its weight and influence. About the time of the 2nd Jewish Revolt, Antioch was struck with a huge earthquake that pretty much took them out of play. The bishop of Antioch, Irenaeus, was sent to Rome to meet his martyrdom. The 2nd Jewish Revolt decimated many of the remaining Jewish believers from the Jerusalem community that did not escape. That pretty much left Rome as a de facto center for Christianity at the time.
Over the next couple of hundred years, Christianity became the new force in Rome. Many elites became Christian - some in name only. If you can't beat them, join them. The rest is history. There were many changes to Christianity involving theology and tradition made during these days that are still a part of the Roman Church today, and consequently, the rest of Christianity that inherited them. But, that is a discussion for another time and place.
From my experience even in Seattle no. There are liberal infiltrators especially in the Vatican who are waging war against the traditional Latin mass but the upcoming generation of Priests are overwhelmingly conservative.
FSSP and SSPX. Fraternity order of St Peter and Fraternity order of St Pius X parishes are exploding in popularity.
Pre Vatican II is the way to go, but even they are so wary of politics trying to co-op their position. They're focused on hundreds of years not one political term. If the Q plan happened tomorrow they would be one of the last to sign on. They've been organizing their own for 50 years.
Edit - you don't want to hear what they think about Vance if you support him still. he still refuses to baptize his kids.
Vance won't baptize his kids???? Is that bec of the Indian wife?
Yes
Edit - you wouldn't know about it unless you knew modern Indians, but there's a way they prefer to mix religious upbringing when an Indian marries a Christian known as "Hindu Catholic". Basically they relate all the Saints to "corresponding" Hindu gods with somewhat similar sounding geneses to honor the Christian side, but the kids still stay within the Hindu faith and don't get baptized.
Vance converted to Catholicism shortly after the birth of his first child and before the second as a result. Converting to straight Hinduism would have killed his political career.
Good to hear this.
Well yeah, if you haven't been catechized to receive the Eucharist then you aren't allowed to receive it. As Catholics (and you may disagree, that's fine, I'm just stating what Catholics believe) we believe 100% that the Eucharist, through the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass transforms/transubstantiates into the Body and Blood of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. When Christ said, "Take this, and eat, for this IS my Body " He meant it literally. The original word for "eat" in the Greek translation of that verse literally translates to "gnaw" or "to chew," so to physically eat something. If you haven't gone through the rite to receive the Body of our Lord, you cannot receive Him. Meaning you must be baptized and go through the rite of First Holy Communion, which most Catholics go through at around ages 7-9 depending on their readiness, unless you enter into the Church as an adult, then it's whatever age you entered.
Sorry, long explanation!
Anyway, the Latin Mass is not all that common in the US, and has been heavily restricted by the Vatican since the 1960s. Most parishes are not allowed to celebrate Latin Masses unless through special exception. Or if a church is not part of a parish or diocese then they can do whatever they want, typically. Or if a priest holds a private mass (meaning he doesn't publicize it) he can celebrate in Latin and people are allowed to attend, but it can't be "advertised."
The Latin Mass has an extremely long history and it's quite interesting to read up on if you're curious, and I highly recommend, because at the very least you're learning about religious history that the seculars of the world want you to forget.
Again, sorry, long explanation! If you have any other questions feel free to ask and I can try to answer them as best I can! God bless my brother/sister in Christ!
Thanks for providing this great explanation. I was going to attempt it - but you did it thoroughly and thoughtfully.
What? Why?
Because he finally saw Sister Act and thinks Goldberg is representative....
Howls.
Good one!
Because they have bought into the religion of social justice and critical theory instead of Biblical principles of godliness.