That's part of it... the need to cool the quantum computer cores would not take energy, just the cold of the shadows on the moon, which can get down to -410 degrees F. Any energy required to run the computers could come from solar panels in the sunlit places, which are bombarded by direct sunlight, with no atmosphere to filter it. The solar panels we now use on Earth might be wholly unsuited for the moon due to the overabundance of direct sunlight, so they might have to be upgraded and tweaked to stand such an inhospitable climate.
Of course maintaining and servicing these computers and power supply would probably require human presence...unless Elon can also make robots to do the work. Communication between Earth scientists and the computer would be an interesting puzzle to solve too, especially since there is about a 3-second delay between transmission and receiving... plus how can they guarantee a perfect, uninterrupted signal?
A lot of engineering issues to overcome, but I think it could be done.
Gravity, the weakest of the fundamental forces, can subtly influence quantum states through spacetime curvature and time dilation, potentially affecting the stability and precision of sensitive quantum computers. But that gravitational effect might be negligible... I'm not a computer scientist and only know the above, it would take better minds than mine to figure that one out. But good question!
There are very few moving parts in a quantum computer, mostly just the shuffling of electrical impulses, but gravity can affect quantum states in minute, almost unreasonable ways.
Computers no longer use mechanical things like tape reels, it's all done electronically, via electrical impulses, and quantum computing simply uses the state of electrons, not the flow of electrons.
So friction, as we understand it in classical physics everyday use plays no part in quantum computers.
Elon did say Optimus will be sent first to do the dangerous work of terraforming and preparing for human arrival. Makes sense. Send bots and drones first to prepare for humans. Get the Martian atmosphere livable and so on.
I've often thought about terraforming Mars, but I think the challenges would be greater than our current technology can handle. It might take hundreds of years to terraform Mars.
Not with AI tech advancing. After super intelligence hits things will move quickly. Elon is well aware of this since I’m sure he’s NOT using the models available to the public.
Well... to create enough oxygen to cover the planet would require large forests or water and algae. There might be enough CO2 for plants to thrive and create oxygen, but then you have to consider the ambient temperature on Mars,which can be 70F on some days but -200F on other days. I'm not sure plants could survive in those conditions.
Terraforming on the scale of Mars is a daunting task.
One of the landers had an experiment of generating oxygen on a small scale and it proved successful, so the tech could get bigger and more prolific to speed things along.
Perhaps. It would be a worthy experiment to attempt. I wouldn't dare say it's impossible, because many scientists over the centuries have said that, and proven wrong almost immediately.
The major difficulty with Mars is the lower gravity and near zero magnetic field providing no protection from the suns emisssions. Oxygen would need constant replenishment.
Very low electromagnetic interference of all types. I would argue that and even better environment would be deep underneath the surface of the moon....
Easier Temperature control. Which is especially important for Quantum computing. Less interference from people who’ve skimmed an article online and suddenly believe they’re environmental experts. Easier to control access to the systems. Not to mention reduced risk of environmental factors or disaster causing problems. As potential sources drop to a comparative handful from hundreds.
I’m not sure there are permanently shadowed craters on the moon. Maybe near the poles? But yeah super cold there for sure- if they can set up some sort of solar power system that can handle that type of environment (and produce enough power) - payloads of batteries would be super heavy - interesting idea though!
The moon has a very slight axial tilt in its motion around Earth, less that 1.5 degrees, so yes, there ARE permanently shadowed locations on the moon, especially near the poles
I do believe a little problem has shown up with quantum computing. The ability to crack any current encryption in minutes. We need to have a solution for ourselves.
I'd like to know why.
Temperature?
That's part of it... the need to cool the quantum computer cores would not take energy, just the cold of the shadows on the moon, which can get down to -410 degrees F. Any energy required to run the computers could come from solar panels in the sunlit places, which are bombarded by direct sunlight, with no atmosphere to filter it. The solar panels we now use on Earth might be wholly unsuited for the moon due to the overabundance of direct sunlight, so they might have to be upgraded and tweaked to stand such an inhospitable climate.
Of course maintaining and servicing these computers and power supply would probably require human presence...unless Elon can also make robots to do the work. Communication between Earth scientists and the computer would be an interesting puzzle to solve too, especially since there is about a 3-second delay between transmission and receiving... plus how can they guarantee a perfect, uninterrupted signal?
A lot of engineering issues to overcome, but I think it could be done.
Is the moon a better place for quantum computing because of the lower gravitational pull?
Gravity, the weakest of the fundamental forces, can subtly influence quantum states through spacetime curvature and time dilation, potentially affecting the stability and precision of sensitive quantum computers. But that gravitational effect might be negligible... I'm not a computer scientist and only know the above, it would take better minds than mine to figure that one out. But good question!
I was thinking less gravity would mean less friction and therefore less energy loss.
There are very few moving parts in a quantum computer, mostly just the shuffling of electrical impulses, but gravity can affect quantum states in minute, almost unreasonable ways.
Computers no longer use mechanical things like tape reels, it's all done electronically, via electrical impulses, and quantum computing simply uses the state of electrons, not the flow of electrons.
So friction, as we understand it in classical physics everyday use plays no part in quantum computers.
The service robots' joints might freeze, tho.
Only if their joints are full of water
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Elon did say Optimus will be sent first to do the dangerous work of terraforming and preparing for human arrival. Makes sense. Send bots and drones first to prepare for humans. Get the Martian atmosphere livable and so on.
I've often thought about terraforming Mars, but I think the challenges would be greater than our current technology can handle. It might take hundreds of years to terraform Mars.
It won’t.
Not with AI tech advancing. After super intelligence hits things will move quickly. Elon is well aware of this since I’m sure he’s NOT using the models available to the public.
Well... to create enough oxygen to cover the planet would require large forests or water and algae. There might be enough CO2 for plants to thrive and create oxygen, but then you have to consider the ambient temperature on Mars,which can be 70F on some days but -200F on other days. I'm not sure plants could survive in those conditions.
Terraforming on the scale of Mars is a daunting task.
It will happen.
One of the landers had an experiment of generating oxygen on a small scale and it proved successful, so the tech could get bigger and more prolific to speed things along.
Perhaps. It would be a worthy experiment to attempt. I wouldn't dare say it's impossible, because many scientists over the centuries have said that, and proven wrong almost immediately.
Arthur C. Clarke had a famous saying about that.
The major difficulty with Mars is the lower gravity and near zero magnetic field providing no protection from the suns emisssions. Oxygen would need constant replenishment.
Yes, just adding to the difficult task. I'm not sure we have the capabilities to do it.
All that sweet H3...
Yup, there's that too. Free energy for the taking.
I’ve always loved it when you comment but have personally never seen your insight on things like this.
Thanks for your input, as always.
Thank you!
Very low electromagnetic interference of all types. I would argue that and even better environment would be deep underneath the surface of the moon....
How about Antarctica or Greenland? I'll have beach front property. 😎
Interesting.
Easier Temperature control. Which is especially important for Quantum computing. Less interference from people who’ve skimmed an article online and suddenly believe they’re environmental experts. Easier to control access to the systems. Not to mention reduced risk of environmental factors or disaster causing problems. As potential sources drop to a comparative handful from hundreds.
So no space Greta's?
I’m not sure there are permanently shadowed craters on the moon. Maybe near the poles? But yeah super cold there for sure- if they can set up some sort of solar power system that can handle that type of environment (and produce enough power) - payloads of batteries would be super heavy - interesting idea though!
The moon has a very slight axial tilt in its motion around Earth, less that 1.5 degrees, so yes, there ARE permanently shadowed locations on the moon, especially near the poles
How does he know? Kek
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That's creepy, given the theories of alien bases on the moon, i'm sure this message has a deeper meaning.
They probably already do it their.
The song Moonbeams enters the chat
and "Moonshadow"
I do believe a little problem has shown up with quantum computing. The ability to crack any current encryption in minutes. We need to have a solution for ourselves.
We are building the Borg.
Probably the observer effect and similar phenomenon.