Oh my, those poor people who won't work so they can pay their heating bill. I hope they can at least put on a couple of layers of clothing to stave off the chill. But if the have no heat, how will they survive? By going to the nearest Walmart and begin stealing food? That would keep them warm for a few hours.
Fuel assistance is something i get and a lot of people in my state get because winters can and do reach -40F -50F actual temps not just windchill, and -100F windchill. Sweaters won't help that.
Both adults in my house work full time we don't get food stamps or anything else, neither of us get ebt, or medicaid or rental assistance.
This also affects disabled and elderly heating assistance is no joke. This isn't just the ebt crowd, this affects a lot of Americans.
If it wasn't for fuel assistance we really would struggle in my house.
I’m in Michigan. We get pretty cold. The minute we found out Biden has “been elected” my husband and I put in a wood burner.
We were lucky to get one without a catalytic converter that makes it hard to get and keep burning. My brother has 40 acres we cut wood on. We just started it up for the season.
Our heat (gas) and electric are in the same bill. Michigan is promising that our bills will be doubled this year due to the fascination with “green” energy. I don’t intend to let them freeze us out!
That sounds awesome. People here use pellet stoves a lot. I don't know where we could put one in this house though our furnace is a really efficient propane one our landlord put in when we moved in. Last winter we only had to fill propane twice and it was cold, hopefully with the new windows and siding they're putting on our house it will be a lot better.
I’m sure the new windows and siding will help. You probably know all this but…jic. A few ideas.
We put that shrink wrap plastic up on windows before we had the stove. We also closed the doors to rooms we don’t use during the day and closed the heat vents in the spare rooms. A programmable thermostat is great too. Before the wood stove we kept the thermostat at 69 in the evening and less during the hours when we worked or slept.
We are richly blessed, thank God! We have a small living room so we put our stove in the small area above the basement stairs. We have an open floor plan so that helps too. Wish I could send you some extra heat fren! I’d stay say to stay frosty but …😉
Yep did the plastic on the windows, and last year winter I had to get one of those quilted magnetic door covers for the back door. They had promised to do this five years ago but it wasn't an emergency, and our landlord like us are hard busy workers. This year though the storm door on the side fell apart and we asked them to fix it and boom lol nice upgrades. I believe eventually we will buy the house. Our landlady likes our family, and just wants me to have a good forever home lol. I work from home so the heat is always on we have dual fuel so I use the electric to keep it warmer upstairs where my room. A lot of time I am wearing a heavy jacket with a blanket and fuzzy slippers while I work. If we have to I will cover the windows again this year, are still working on the house getting the eaves done and doing the house wrap I'm sure siding will be finished this week and hopefully the inside casings on the windows this week.
Lol It's winter here for five or six months of the year I'm always frosty. Warm hugs and a hot cup of coffee to you and your family.
Needing assistance with heating your home also goes to seniors who have lived in their old farmhouse for generations, worked all their lives, and cannot afford new windows, fire wood or oil. Believe me, they do wear sweaters. There are a lot of working poor, through no fault of their own, can no longer pay what it costs anymore. It goes to 20 below zero with a windchill pushing it lower than 30 below where I live. People die trying to heat their house. The money also goes toward winterizing peoples home. Not everyone who gets assistance is lazy, this has been a good program in Vermont. I know loggers who provide wood for people. A friend of mine told me about a family who were burning everything they could find to put in their stove, including clothing that they would get from free clothing drives, cardboard from the dump, old christmas trees. Which gunks up the chimney and then the house burns down. The family he helped, Dad a disabled ex logger, Mom, two part time jobs. They were too proud to ask for help and someone from Church told my friend to bring up some wood for them.I can afford my four cords of wood, and I can afford my electricity bill to use back up oil filled radiators on those really cold days. We cover the northwest windows with plastic usually the first of December, and close off rooms during the day when the woodstove is blasting, Hang blankets over the doors on those 30 below nights. I am 75 and still collect a salary for taking in a disabled man as a boarder, providing him with care, and my son does the heavy lifting and transport that I can no longer do. But if I did not have that, I too would need assistance staying alive through winter, because my social security and meager savings would not cover both cordwood and electric. I get by on 4 cords of wood a season, buy it in May and let it season outdoors, have it stacked by my son. That is 1200 bucks right there, A few winters were mild, did not need the electric back up. Frozen pipes are not fun at my age, luckily we work at home to keep the stove going.
This is part of the reason I get pissed off when I hear a democrat using the "we are the richest country in the world" trope as justification for giving illegal immigrants benefits. Charity begins (and should end if taxpayers are footing the bill) at home. The frauds have to be cleaned out. The illegals have to be deported. Legals who have committed acts of insurgency need to be stripped of citizenship and deported. Doing all that will great a lot of meaningful jobs, even more meaningful if the process were organized to succeed without causing any harm the truly needy among us.
I think we need to think about changing the mindset of the people that think they’re entitled to free stuff for life. I remember when there was shame attached to getting assistance. You only did it because you had to and getting off as soon as you had the chance. Fast forward to now. There are people who think we owe them these things because they choose to not work. They have no cares about anything other than self.
The power companies can do something about this. The industry that's guaranteed a profit can surely find some extra kilowatts for a short period of time.
Hahahahaha. You think they care? Why do you think your bills keep going up and up? It's because the illegals and the green card holders don't pay their bills, so it is passed on to you.
Did the judge forcing trumps administration to pay snap actually work? I cant find anywhere that it worked, while also noticing no snap raids on Walmart. If it worked then a judge would just order the trump admin to pay heating right?
I dont like to be forced to pay to heat OTHER people's homes. That said, they always withhold things that hit home the most during the shutdowns for max pain and headlines.
Bullshit. In NEPA we havae a lot of elderly who need it but because of the income requirements they are a few bucks out of reach. Now all the green card holders here who never pay any of their utility bills......NEVER! They wait for LIHEAP season to claim $200 and then when they get their shut-off notice they get another $1000.
Turns out America is in such poor state...
Who would know without the shutdown ...
Fuck the Dems for pandering the fuckin illegals
Eliminate all the government theft, and maybe people will be able to afford such luxuries as food and heat.
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Tough shitski is what the actual commies said,when the poor couldn't heat their homes.
Oh my, those poor people who won't work so they can pay their heating bill. I hope they can at least put on a couple of layers of clothing to stave off the chill. But if the have no heat, how will they survive? By going to the nearest Walmart and begin stealing food? That would keep them warm for a few hours.
Fuel assistance is something i get and a lot of people in my state get because winters can and do reach -40F -50F actual temps not just windchill, and -100F windchill. Sweaters won't help that. Both adults in my house work full time we don't get food stamps or anything else, neither of us get ebt, or medicaid or rental assistance.
This also affects disabled and elderly heating assistance is no joke. This isn't just the ebt crowd, this affects a lot of Americans.
If it wasn't for fuel assistance we really would struggle in my house.
I’m in Michigan. We get pretty cold. The minute we found out Biden has “been elected” my husband and I put in a wood burner. We were lucky to get one without a catalytic converter that makes it hard to get and keep burning. My brother has 40 acres we cut wood on. We just started it up for the season. Our heat (gas) and electric are in the same bill. Michigan is promising that our bills will be doubled this year due to the fascination with “green” energy. I don’t intend to let them freeze us out!
That sounds awesome. People here use pellet stoves a lot. I don't know where we could put one in this house though our furnace is a really efficient propane one our landlord put in when we moved in. Last winter we only had to fill propane twice and it was cold, hopefully with the new windows and siding they're putting on our house it will be a lot better.
I’m sure the new windows and siding will help. You probably know all this but…jic. A few ideas.
We put that shrink wrap plastic up on windows before we had the stove. We also closed the doors to rooms we don’t use during the day and closed the heat vents in the spare rooms. A programmable thermostat is great too. Before the wood stove we kept the thermostat at 69 in the evening and less during the hours when we worked or slept.
We are richly blessed, thank God! We have a small living room so we put our stove in the small area above the basement stairs. We have an open floor plan so that helps too. Wish I could send you some extra heat fren! I’d stay say to stay frosty but …😉
Yep did the plastic on the windows, and last year winter I had to get one of those quilted magnetic door covers for the back door. They had promised to do this five years ago but it wasn't an emergency, and our landlord like us are hard busy workers. This year though the storm door on the side fell apart and we asked them to fix it and boom lol nice upgrades. I believe eventually we will buy the house. Our landlady likes our family, and just wants me to have a good forever home lol. I work from home so the heat is always on we have dual fuel so I use the electric to keep it warmer upstairs where my room. A lot of time I am wearing a heavy jacket with a blanket and fuzzy slippers while I work. If we have to I will cover the windows again this year, are still working on the house getting the eaves done and doing the house wrap I'm sure siding will be finished this week and hopefully the inside casings on the windows this week.
Lol It's winter here for five or six months of the year I'm always frosty. Warm hugs and a hot cup of coffee to you and your family.
Needing assistance with heating your home also goes to seniors who have lived in their old farmhouse for generations, worked all their lives, and cannot afford new windows, fire wood or oil. Believe me, they do wear sweaters. There are a lot of working poor, through no fault of their own, can no longer pay what it costs anymore. It goes to 20 below zero with a windchill pushing it lower than 30 below where I live. People die trying to heat their house. The money also goes toward winterizing peoples home. Not everyone who gets assistance is lazy, this has been a good program in Vermont. I know loggers who provide wood for people. A friend of mine told me about a family who were burning everything they could find to put in their stove, including clothing that they would get from free clothing drives, cardboard from the dump, old christmas trees. Which gunks up the chimney and then the house burns down. The family he helped, Dad a disabled ex logger, Mom, two part time jobs. They were too proud to ask for help and someone from Church told my friend to bring up some wood for them.I can afford my four cords of wood, and I can afford my electricity bill to use back up oil filled radiators on those really cold days. We cover the northwest windows with plastic usually the first of December, and close off rooms during the day when the woodstove is blasting, Hang blankets over the doors on those 30 below nights. I am 75 and still collect a salary for taking in a disabled man as a boarder, providing him with care, and my son does the heavy lifting and transport that I can no longer do. But if I did not have that, I too would need assistance staying alive through winter, because my social security and meager savings would not cover both cordwood and electric. I get by on 4 cords of wood a season, buy it in May and let it season outdoors, have it stacked by my son. That is 1200 bucks right there, A few winters were mild, did not need the electric back up. Frozen pipes are not fun at my age, luckily we work at home to keep the stove going.
No, they will go back to their Caribbean home and spend the winter there.
This is part of the reason I get pissed off when I hear a democrat using the "we are the richest country in the world" trope as justification for giving illegal immigrants benefits. Charity begins (and should end if taxpayers are footing the bill) at home. The frauds have to be cleaned out. The illegals have to be deported. Legals who have committed acts of insurgency need to be stripped of citizenship and deported. Doing all that will great a lot of meaningful jobs, even more meaningful if the process were organized to succeed without causing any harm the truly needy among us.
I think we need to think about changing the mindset of the people that think they’re entitled to free stuff for life. I remember when there was shame attached to getting assistance. You only did it because you had to and getting off as soon as you had the chance. Fast forward to now. There are people who think we owe them these things because they choose to not work. They have no cares about anything other than self.
The power companies can do something about this. The industry that's guaranteed a profit can surely find some extra kilowatts for a short period of time.
Hahahahaha. You think they care? Why do you think your bills keep going up and up? It's because the illegals and the green card holders don't pay their bills, so it is passed on to you.
You are right, of course.. If they get a bit of a push from the elected officials who control their giveme's, they'd care.
Milton Friedman gave us the ultimate political absolutism. There's no such thing as a free lunch.
Did the judge forcing trumps administration to pay snap actually work? I cant find anywhere that it worked, while also noticing no snap raids on Walmart. If it worked then a judge would just order the trump admin to pay heating right?
I dont like to be forced to pay to heat OTHER people's homes. That said, they always withhold things that hit home the most during the shutdowns for max pain and headlines.
Idk how this could be true as bills haven’t even been sent out for October yet.
Bullshit. In NEPA we havae a lot of elderly who need it but because of the income requirements they are a few bucks out of reach. Now all the green card holders here who never pay any of their utility bills......NEVER! They wait for LIHEAP season to claim $200 and then when they get their shut-off notice they get another $1000.
What's the next, this is worst every day, the pressure will build till....