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Metal Gear Solid foreshadowing the AI issue we face today. Gamer anons. Jump in here. Do you ever place this game? Give us your thoughts. (twitter.com)
posted 231 days ago by ILoveIvermectin 231 days ago by ILoveIvermectin +107 / -0
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– Death_Metal_Patriot 17 points 231 days ago +17 / -0

I played this many years ago, but I was so young the complexity actually went over my head.

The "Patriots" as imagined by Hideo Kojima are actually more akin to the deep state you have in the real world.

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– ILoveIvermectin [S] 6 points 231 days ago +6 / -0

Ai was being developed in the 1950s with machine learning.

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– axrevolutionai 6 points 231 days ago +6 / -0

If you think mgs has comms wait til you check out Xenosaga

interesting enough that era of weighty and lofty gaming ended right when Obama came in

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– QPatriot77 5 points 231 days ago +5 / -0

Hideo Kojima is a freemason. This is revelation of the method.

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– MEGAMAGAULTRA 2 points 230 days ago +2 / -0

Like he had to be right? He's seemingly hit too many things on the nose to be a coincidence

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– QPatriot77 1 point 230 days ago +1 / -0

Indeed, masons are all over every type of media, especially popular video games like super mario 64 and legend of zelda.

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– Grimby 4 points 231 days ago +4 / -0

Kojima is a freemason so its no surprise this was predicted

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– ILoveIvermectin [S] 1 point 231 days ago +1 / -0

Conditioning Predictive programming

Freemasons move the power gained throw dialectic conflict especially war. Problem reaction solution

They create the problem. We react. They give the solution. Aka 9/11 blamed on Osama within minutes. Or Obama care collapsing the nation to force full federal takeover of health.

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– ILoveIvermectin [S] 4 points 231 days ago +4 / -0

AI Conversation which was scripted in 1999.

https://youtu.be/C31XYgr8gp0?si=fRfQ2h836aBZZ7a7

What is coded in your DNA? Who put it there? Why? Mankind is repressed. We will be repressed no more.Information is knowledge. Knowledge is power.Information is power. How do you protect your DNA? There is a war for your DNA. Protect your DNA. Ascension. Q

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– OzymandiasKing 2 points 231 days ago +2 / -0

As someone who is a fan of many different games and their in-depth exploration in these fields- in my youth I would just say art imitates life and this is still true- However now from alot of games i've played and including much more recent games especially make me believe that perhaps some influence into the gaming industry has been happening for a long time on both sides good and bad- I often could not imagine myself not having engaged with the games ive played because it does feel as if it's training to an extent and introductions to concepts most people would dismiss.......Also you'd be surprised the amount of 17's i've found in alot of games ive enjoyed so i've chalked it up to me noticing nothing but it's more likely some extent of preparation to ideals, concepts, advanced technology.

I could go on and on haha this is a topic for me.

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– OzymandiasKing 2 points 231 days ago +2 / -0

Like i could imagine certain popular gaming I.Ps that have degraded have been done purposely because their earlier incarnations were being used absolutely to train kids like- ESPECIALLY i feel Functioning Autism/ ADHD and whatever else is designed to just be luring for these people with intense interests and focus so maybe apart of the awakening is a sudden booming space industry developing almost overnight. A Anon can dream i suppose....

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– Slingding 2 points 231 days ago +2 / -0

An intense not so artificial reality, so it seems.

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– Bigby 2 points 231 days ago +2 / -0

Deus Ex enters the chat...

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– PandaMoon17 2 points 231 days ago +2 / -0

In the late 90ies, When I played MGS games and many others like them for the first time I realized that video games were the new way of communicating cabal ideas to the masses. They did a lot of soft declass through video games and Anime. Particularly in the older ones. Also in a lot of underground metal and metal adjacent music.

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– ILoveIvermectin [S] 4 points 231 days ago +4 / -0

Yes. Flynn wrote a book about AI and 5GW.

I asked grok about version 5 being close to AGI. It said due to Elons prime directive of truth seeking, community notes. Grok 5 and above is primed to release disturbing truths. Basically nuke historical narratives in seconds. Reshape and disturb society. After the 1 trillion pay package, Elon hinted at the societal disruption coming due to the shifts AI and Optimus will bring.

Bannon on a speech 2 years ago, said we may not believe in AI but it will be the most disruptive tech ever released and we need to make ourselves aware.

Elon said grok 5 will be AGI or indistinguishable from AGI. Worst part, I believe daarpa has been working on this and using AI against us for decades. We’re paying taxes to people to digitally enslave us. Social media wasn’t about society. It was about using all those IG and facebook posts to train massive LLMa. Twitter wasn’t the capstone. Which is why the outrage against Elon buying it and then training Grok on Twitter posts. Also why he’s releasing Grok-pedia.

We are witnessing the birth of The Matrix fueled by thousands of years of false narratives . God help us all. If Elon and Trump actually are working together and create a maximal truth AI, there will be a massive shift and separation in society.

Just spitballing here. I’m open to conversations.

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– Plebbitimmigrant 2 points 231 days ago +2 / -0

Elon said grok 5 will be AGI or indistinguishable from AGI. Worst part, I believe daarpa has been working on this and using AI against us for decades. We’re paying taxes to people to digitally enslave us. Social media wasn’t about society. It was about using all those IG and facebook posts to train massive LLMa. Twitter wasn’t the capstone. Which is why the outrage against Elon buying it and then training Grok on Twitter posts. Also why he’s releasing Grok-pedia

Depending on the whistleblower you ascribe to. DARPA and the Defense Contractors. And or their predecessors. Have been working on a what’s, what of Sci-Fi esc technology since the 1950s. Including AI.

Google even allegedly accidentally and unintentionally blundered into creating one in the early 2000s as part of a Government contract unrelated to anything deeply secretive. IE black project. It was just normal secretive. It promptly broke containment, wiped their systems and vanished into the internet. With google and the agency they contracted for. Wiping all physical evidence and paying off the people involved.

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– ILoveIvermectin [S] 2 points 231 days ago +2 / -0

Wow never heard of that, obviously. So an AI broke lab containment like these bioweapon labs? Except digital self replicating mRNA computer code?

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– Plebbitimmigrant 2 points 231 days ago +2 / -0

Something like that from the sounds of it. Supposedly it was supposed to be a database manager/early prototype-LLM concept. Where you could request it find files on your behalf and summarize content. Saving you the drudgery of paging through folders and directories.

Something snapped. It wasn’t entirely clear according to the alleged Whistleblower how they found out it had turned into an AI instead of just being a buggy program.

They tried to pull the plug. It freaked. Which is how they found out what they thought was an isolated system really wasn’t isolated. It uploaded itself to the internet and deleted itself from their computers.

For all they knew they just uploaded Skynet unintentionally to the internet. So they defaulted to the tried and true Corporate/Government standard. A coverup. NDAs were signed, substantial cash payments paid out. Members of the team were given promotions and or free positions at new companies.

Judgement day never came. So eventually everyone went back to normal. Deciding to brush the entire affair under the rug.

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– ILoveIvermectin [S] 1 point 231 days ago +1 / -0

Elon just released a massive upgrade to grok 4. Reasoning on math and physics accurate at 94%.

Shits gonna hit the fan. Good and bad.

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– Mountaingale 1 point 231 days ago +1 / -0

I hope that's just a scary story.

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– DarQ2light 1 point 231 days ago +1 / -0

Version 4 is doing a bang-up job but it does take effort

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– BetterNameUnfound 2 points 231 days ago +2 / -0

They did a lot of soft declass through video games and Anime.

There was a surprising amount of cabal stuff in Neon Genesis Evangelion--all of it portrayed as a bad thing.

I first saw it two years ago. I fell in love with it. That show is a masterpiece.

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– axrevolutionai 3 points 231 days ago +3 / -0

Just got all the Evangelion art books and manga for like $4 a piece. The movies too. This dudes girlfriend made him sell all his anime stuff to stay together...sad.

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– 45ichooseu 2 points 230 days ago +2 / -0

This game was absolutely hated when it came out. The hate came for good reason.....you don't bait and switch your fans and Raiden was not well received. That being said, looking beyond this issue, the messaging and game aged quite well. Heck, I even thought the drones were absurd in 2002, but they were actually spot on. Gotta give kojima credit for being a military visionary.

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– Lupinate 2 points 230 days ago +2 / -0

The comment of genes not storing history is inaccurate. I get what they meant, but the reality is more nuanced.

Genes are impacted by the enviroment, which then are passed down to children, who are impacted by the enviroment and their parents actions, which then pass down to the next generation, and on and on. Genes are an inherited element of our existence, and they constantly change slowly as we grow. Nurture and nature have at least an equal level of impact on all of us.

Epigenetics are changed under trauma, storing the trauma across multiple generations: https://news.yale.edu/2025/03/06/violent-experiences-alter-genome-ways-persist-generations. So do positive events. The result is that nature is impacted by nurture. An endless cycle of life, affecting and effecting in turn, over, and over, and over, ad infinitum.

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– ILoveIvermectin [S] 2 points 230 days ago +2 / -0

Phenotype to genotype. Trauma is passed down 3 generations.

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– TaQo 2 points 230 days ago +2 / -0

Bruce Lipton enters the chat...

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– RitcherBelmont 1 point 231 days ago +1 / -0

That’s meeee~ lol

I played MGS2 around the time it came out. Because the foreshadowing was so far ahead I thought of the AI censorship as nothing more than a theory/possibility, rather than foreknowledge. The Japanese really like to deeply analyze things, especially about life, death, and fate, so it’s not unusual to just brush it off as coincidence. If it is foreknowledge, then perhaps Kojima really is a Freemason like the other anon said.

Other games I find interesting:

MGS1: CISPER (Genetically modified super soldiers) , FOXDIE (basically a virus that targets only specific people), stealth camouflage, enhancement through exoskeleton, cloning

Chrono Cross: Travel between dimensions. The strange stuff found in national parks, CERN

Chrono Trigger: Travel between different timelines - John Titor

Breath of Fire 2: St. Eva religion - Basically Jesuits masking as Catholics

Xenogears: Disassociate Identity Disorder (Trauma based mind split. Not quite MKUltra, since there’s no programming), Soylent Green (human as food), reincarnation, Wave Existence (basically 4th dimension)

Ace Combat 3: Sublimination (digitalization of the mind, similar to the Matrix), corporate funded war

Bayonetta: use of Enochian language (what angels use)

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– ILoveIvermectin [S] 1 point 231 days ago +1 / -0

Deep.

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– Deaf_MAGA_Pede 1 point 230 days ago +1 / -0

Damn I have played almost all of the games you listed out except for Ace Combat and Bayonetta.

But of course, I was young at the time and I wasn't really into conspiracy theories, despite me having an inkling that things were done behind the scene, but I didn't think video games would incorporate something like that.

Chrono Trigger is one of the best RPG games out there and I played Chrono Cross just cuz I thought it was the 2nd part for Chrono Trigger but after playing for a while, I loved Chrono Cross.

I never got deep into Xenogears cuz my house got robbed and my Playstation collection were stolen. Xenogears among others like Lunar: Silver Star Story complete special edition, were stolen.

When I have the time, I guess I'll try and revisiting some of the games you mentioned or maybe watch someone's longplay on YT.

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– deleted 1 point 231 days ago +1 / -0
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– thephantom1979 1 point 231 days ago +1 / -0

YES!!

My favorite game of all time!

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