How much you want to bet people are going to be absolutely shocked come January when we have to go through all this again, either because they've forgotten all about this shutdown, or because they don't know any of the details on what it was the democrats were demanding or what concessions were made to temporarily open the government again.
If you already know about law enforcement and military and air traffic controllers, then what else are you looking for? Is that not enough? If you really want to know, for academic reasons, then why don't you just do some research on it? The only reason to ask a discussion board about it is so you can have a discussion about it.
Border control, customs, secret service (would rather not have the people protecting the President be stressed out more than necessary or even vulnerable to someone bribing them to do something horrible), food and meat inspectors (can disrupt the food supply chain and raise grocery prices), FDA field inspectors (who make sure things like baby formula and baby food are safe), federal prison staff, VA backlogs in care and admin, homeland security, fema, federal railroad administration takes care of things like railroad safety and accident investigations, all sorts of things like hazardous material inspections, and work with companies who ship their goods by rail (like coal and oil and gas), which is important for heating, coast guard, etc...
Then there are the landlords who won't be getting rent checks because their tenants are federal workers and aren't getting paid. Obviously this would only go on for so long until government workers just quit their federal job and got a civilian job, which would make job competition really fierce, especially now that people are competing against AI as well.
A lot of the federal workers still had to go to work, even though they weren't getting paid, so we didn't see what would happen without them. But every week the government is shut down, the more people in those positions quit and get new jobs. If the government stayed shutdown for months, I can't imagine many people would stay in those roles. That's when you'd see just how much everyone depends on the federal government to some degree or another, no matter how tough they talk. Just one natural disaster or horrible train wreck leaking toxic chemicals (remember PA a few years back and that spate of train wrecks one after another), or no one policing the border or making sure formaldehyde wasn't in baby formula would show that there are plenty of federal jobs that are necessary for a civilized country.
Are you testing us, to see if we can come up with reasons we should care when normies couldn't?(though I think that's a bizarre statement, seeing as how it's the normies on TV ticking off all the reasons why the government needs to reopen, and you're the one asking people for reasons why we should care if it opens back up, so it seems like there are some wires crossed there)
While you long winded response is mostly correct, I think the point that's being made is that shedding tears for federal workers is kind of a joke, considering the safety net they all have enjoyed for their entire careers.
One and a half months of no pay and they're hitting soup kitchens? Please....
{And you'd have a hard time convincing me that they aren't being taken care of in some fashion}
As someone who has worked for the unions/ city/state at various times, I would know of what I speak.
Our air transportation system would have ground to a halt. Not just for passenger travel but for air freight as well. Billions of dollars lost, perishable cargo would rot in warehouses - tourism dollars would dry up.
"Hemp" is not being banned. Non-intoxicating hemp and CBD will still be legal. Not that unreasonable since cannabis is still illegal at the federal level. So in other words we're exactly back to where we were back in 2018. Not that the federal government has any authority to regulate cannabis anyway (per the 10th amendment) but oh well.
Which will be in January, when we can do this all over again. I don't think that's very clear to many people. They have no idea that what's been passed is just a stopgap to get us to January, and in exchange for the Democrats relenting and voting to reopen the government, they're going to have to vote again in January on extending those ACA supplements, which is the main thing that they were fighting for this time. And now they're going to have to fight for it even harder because libs are ready to burn shit to the ground that they caved this time around. Dems can't lose again and expect to keep lib votes leading up to midterms. It's going to be ugly, I think.
How about unsealing a few indictments, you know just to celebrate.😁😂
I like this idea!.
Right along the party line.
Smh the dems are so stick together to do negative things
Except for the ones in the Senate who crossed over to the other side to join the Republicans to open the government back up....
It bought us about 2.5 months. Till the song and dance repeats if the yahoos in Congress can’t get their act together
How much you want to bet people are going to be absolutely shocked come January when we have to go through all this again, either because they've forgotten all about this shutdown, or because they don't know any of the details on what it was the democrats were demanding or what concessions were made to temporarily open the government again.
Deadbeats. Get back to work.
I hope he vetoes it.
I’ll add up it equals 17
QUESTION:
What's opening the government back up going to do for any of us, regular, patriots?
Is there ANY upside, benefit or real "essential" reason, "regular" people like us should really give a shit?
*I'm seriously asking... just for academic reasons...I know we gotta get our LEOs paid and air traffic controllers etc
If you polled pearl clutching NPCs or most normies, they couldn't give you any reason other than something to do with TDS...
If you already know about law enforcement and military and air traffic controllers, then what else are you looking for? Is that not enough? If you really want to know, for academic reasons, then why don't you just do some research on it? The only reason to ask a discussion board about it is so you can have a discussion about it.
Border control, customs, secret service (would rather not have the people protecting the President be stressed out more than necessary or even vulnerable to someone bribing them to do something horrible), food and meat inspectors (can disrupt the food supply chain and raise grocery prices), FDA field inspectors (who make sure things like baby formula and baby food are safe), federal prison staff, VA backlogs in care and admin, homeland security, fema, federal railroad administration takes care of things like railroad safety and accident investigations, all sorts of things like hazardous material inspections, and work with companies who ship their goods by rail (like coal and oil and gas), which is important for heating, coast guard, etc...
Then there are the landlords who won't be getting rent checks because their tenants are federal workers and aren't getting paid. Obviously this would only go on for so long until government workers just quit their federal job and got a civilian job, which would make job competition really fierce, especially now that people are competing against AI as well.
A lot of the federal workers still had to go to work, even though they weren't getting paid, so we didn't see what would happen without them. But every week the government is shut down, the more people in those positions quit and get new jobs. If the government stayed shutdown for months, I can't imagine many people would stay in those roles. That's when you'd see just how much everyone depends on the federal government to some degree or another, no matter how tough they talk. Just one natural disaster or horrible train wreck leaking toxic chemicals (remember PA a few years back and that spate of train wrecks one after another), or no one policing the border or making sure formaldehyde wasn't in baby formula would show that there are plenty of federal jobs that are necessary for a civilized country.
Are you testing us, to see if we can come up with reasons we should care when normies couldn't?(though I think that's a bizarre statement, seeing as how it's the normies on TV ticking off all the reasons why the government needs to reopen, and you're the one asking people for reasons why we should care if it opens back up, so it seems like there are some wires crossed there)
While you long winded response is mostly correct, I think the point that's being made is that shedding tears for federal workers is kind of a joke, considering the safety net they all have enjoyed for their entire careers.
One and a half months of no pay and they're hitting soup kitchens? Please....
{And you'd have a hard time convincing me that they aren't being taken care of in some fashion}
As someone who has worked for the unions/ city/state at various times, I would know of what I speak.
Yes... I was testing you, specifically.
Thanks for the extra effort...but Donny summed it up pretty well.
u/#covfefe
Our air transportation system would have ground to a halt. Not just for passenger travel but for air freight as well. Billions of dollars lost, perishable cargo would rot in warehouses - tourism dollars would dry up.
https://x.com/EricLDaugh/status/1988749514748883332?s=20
But guess what? Now hemp is banned since it was snuck into the bill smh.
"Hemp" is not being banned. Non-intoxicating hemp and CBD will still be legal. Not that unreasonable since cannabis is still illegal at the federal level. So in other words we're exactly back to where we were back in 2018. Not that the federal government has any authority to regulate cannabis anyway (per the 10th amendment) but oh well.
Until the next time these assholes decide to play with people's money.
Which will be in January, when we can do this all over again. I don't think that's very clear to many people. They have no idea that what's been passed is just a stopgap to get us to January, and in exchange for the Democrats relenting and voting to reopen the government, they're going to have to vote again in January on extending those ACA supplements, which is the main thing that they were fighting for this time. And now they're going to have to fight for it even harder because libs are ready to burn shit to the ground that they caved this time around. Dems can't lose again and expect to keep lib votes leading up to midterms. It's going to be ugly, I think.