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US collects $2.4T in income tax, but spends $1.5T on fraud (twitter.com)
posted 177 days ago by DCGRITS 177 days ago by DCGRITS +173 / -0
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– Rooks 20 points 177 days ago +20 / -0

Point of order: that is just the fraud we know about thus far. There is MUCH more fraud then that out there.

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– QPatriot77 5 points 177 days ago +5 / -0

u/#q489

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– Rooks 6 points 177 days ago +6 / -0

Exactly. Notice each trillion has an 's' on the end. Essentially a free economy such as the US economy is so robust it is able to simultaniously fund itself, most of the rest of the world, AND STILL NOT BREAK EVEN WITH MULTI-YEAR MASSIVE FRAUD AND ABUSE.

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– QPatriot77 2 points 177 days ago +2 / -0

It certainly makes me feel sick to imagine what America and the American people would be like without this parasitic system draining our vitality.

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– JohnTitor17 3 points 177 days ago +3 / -0

Since I first started posting on GAW, long before POTUS ever mentioned it, I have been telling my frens here what 2036 White Hat Time Traveler John Titor (177th Temporal Recon) articulated in 2001:
"In the future, there WILL be sales tax. But there WILL BE NO income or property taxes."

What we are seeing here, referenced in the OP, is what is necessary to make that possible.

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– PaulieM91 2 points 177 days ago +2 / -0

If that was all the fraud we had, the nat debt wouldnt even be in the trillions

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– proforma1 8 points 177 days ago +8 / -0

Get rid of the IRS, it sounds like they don't know how much money they should/would be collecting. And they threaten us with jail time if we dint pay our taxes!

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– Revodude 7 points 177 days ago +7 / -0

A major AI set of programs would pay for itself in one night.

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– 427windsorman 6 points 177 days ago +6 / -0

Yet, we go on paying taxes and hope that someone else will fix the fraud.

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– ToxicLibertyism 4 points 177 days ago +4 / -0

This is why: Taxation IS theft!

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– Donny_Fiasco 4 points 177 days ago +4 / -0

They're the same thing

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– RacinetheMeme 4 points 177 days ago +4 / -0

It's weird Elon is responding. He said DOGE found around 150-200 Billion in fraud, then he ended DOGE totally and walked away.

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– Rooks 1 point 177 days ago +1 / -0

Incorrect.

1.Elon was a temporary federal hire (consultant). The contract was only 120 days. That was to get him in to start DOGE. He didnt walk away, his contract expired after he completed the job.

  1. DOGE never went away (fake news reported falsely, go figure). DOGE has been broken down into departmental level ... uh... departments. Basically every Federal program now has one or more DOGE officers, an accountability and spending department. Each does exactly what DOGE did before, but theyre able to each now dig into each department granularly, root out the fraud and waste down to the penny.
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– RacinetheMeme 2 points 177 days ago +2 / -0

Yes, the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), Elon Musk's cost-cutting initiative under President Trump, effectively ended as a centralized entity in late 2025, disbanding months ahead of its scheduled July 2026 end, with its functions absorbed by the Office of Personnel Management (OPM), though its principles of reducing bureaucracy and eliminating waste continue through dispersed former members in other agencies.

The OPM has always handled that function, so essentialy, it went back to business as usual.

As for remaining DOGE members, there are around 20 of them spread around different departments. The departments created new roles, but it looks like most of them were closed at the end of the year. The 2026 White House budget has 26 roles for DOGE, but no salary linked to them.

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– photobuf 4 points 177 days ago +4 / -0

1.5 trillion to fraud and .9 trillion in interest payments on our own money! Make that make sense!

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– Ping_Man 3 points 177 days ago +3 / -0

There is way more in fraud than in income taxes...

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– ZeroDeltaTango 2 points 177 days ago +2 / -0

I was already done paying income tax but I am really done now

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– 13ColoniesPatriot 2 points 176 days ago +2 / -0

Its all monopoly money at this point.

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– jhartz39 2 points 177 days ago +2 / -0

Fraud vitiates everything. If we see our taxes feeding the corruption, it gives us evey reason in the world to stop paying taxes. If the national debt is just an accumulation of expense to pay for the fraud, they can shove the debt up their ass also.

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– doug1956 2 points 177 days ago +2 / -0

The fraud has always been there and we have always overpaid what was necessary. Illinois has raised fraud to an art form and us constantly coming up with increases and new ways to steal from us taxpayers.

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– biblegirl 2 points 177 days ago +2 / -0

We need to rename Earth to "America"

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– REAL_Shepherd 2 points 177 days ago +2 / -0

USA CITIZENS=Gold, Silver

USA GOVERNMENT=Bitcoin and the LEDGERS(Blockchain)

This seems to solve and DISCONNECT these 2 entities against Fraud & Corruption

The MARK of the BEAST BELONGS TO THE BEASTS...the BEASTS are Governments. The TALLY MARKS

I believe this is what Trump is working on...

This has been the issue since the beginning...Nebuchadnezzar

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– SOGWAP 2 points 177 days ago +2 / -0

Tjats gonna be some great savings. Kick every last somali who benefited a dime out of the country.

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– MathDoesntAddUp 2 points 177 days ago +2 / -0

Could you imagine just how prosperous we would be if all the fraud was nixed?

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– PaulieM91 1 point 177 days ago +1 / -0

Nation, yes. People, not so much

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