I'm so happy to see this.
I caught wind of this a while ago & actually went & did some research / verified myself. Rags like the NYT have their entire archive that far back (and further!) available online, FREE, so I dug in........FOUND the articles myself.........
A common Jewish narrative is that 6 million Jews were killed during the holocaust. As it turns out they were already claiming that six million Jews were either killed, in danger, or starving years before World War II even started.
Somehow that number was decided on prior to the first Jews being killed in World War II.
That is false, hoax #3. Actually a missing waw ("6") in a particular word in the Torah (not Talmud) was taken to be a prophesy of 6 million Jews being killed, after the fact. No clear prediction there, just what we call an imaginative "delta" that means something to a few people.
If 11 million people died in the Holohoax then 5,022.83 people would have to be killed by the Nazis 24/7/365. It is obvious bullshit once you apply logic. They could not have had the fuel or time to burn all the bodies and there is no evidence for mass graves.
At 3 hours per cremation (low estimate), they would have had to run 628 ovens continuously without even pausing for maintenance. It makes literally zero sense.
This is some top-tier number-fagging for sure... could be symbolism but could also just be an accepted count around 1900 that was then never updated and when people looked up how many jews there were at any given time up until about 1945 they found this 6mil number and ran with it. Its an interesting list for sure though.
This is a statistically insignificant list of retrospective searches for the terms "six million" and "Jews" in close proximity, even if the number refers to e.g. dollars instead of people. A comparative search shows that "three million" is likelier to come up than "six million". None of this indicates foreknowledge of any target number as the proposers wish to imply.
Then it should be an easy matter to post "many" articles that do not just have the text "six million" but actually predict prior to 1945 (by which time that would have been a reasonable guess) that six million Jews will be killed by Germany. And not to post any of the hundred false negatives. But nobody here has done that but only posted false negatives.
What we're all saying is this:
For several decades before the holocaust (I'm seeing articles as far back as 1902), people have found at least 200 (yes, two hundred) separate articles that make claims of "6 million jews" in a whole variety of situations.
We're not saying anyone predicted anything; we're saying that the number "6 million jews" has appeared lets say hundreds & thousands of times before allegedly "6 million jews" were "killed in the holocaust."
So the point is; how coincidental is it that it's always exactly "6 million jews" at great mortal peril....?
THAT is the point.
And here's a nice little link for ya. I have personally verified - not all, but enough - of these that I consider this true & myself correct. And further below are a few of the headlines copied from the link.
1900 – Stephen S. Wise, New York Times, June 11, 1900: “There are 6,000,000 living, bleeding, suffering arguments in favor of Zionism.”
1902 – Encyclopaedia Britannica, 10th Edition, Vol. 25, 1902, page 482: “While there are in Russia and Rumania six millions of Jews who are being systematically degraded …”
1902 – Samuel W. Goldstein, New York Times, November 27, 1902: “PLEA FOR ZIONISM … In answer I would say: Does Dr. Silverman represent the 6,000,000 Jews in Russia, 300,000 in Roumania and the 1,000,000 in Galicia?”
1903 – The Jewish Criterion (Pittsburgh), September 18th, 1903, page 6: ” … six million downtrodden brethren.”
1904 – The Jewish Criterion (Pittsburgh), February 19th, 1904, page 2: ” … where five or six million people existed under persecution.”
1904 – The Jewish Criterion (Pittsburgh), October 7th, 1904, page 1: “… the final and definite deliverance of the six millions of Russian, Roumanian and Galician Jews … transporting five or six million people over the sea.”
1904 – Israel Zangwill, New York Times, October 20, 1904: “The problem does not relate to the American Jews, but to the 6,000,000 in Russia. The Russian Government has consented to allow the Jews to leave,”
1905 – New York Times, January 29th, 1905: “He declared that a free and a happy Russia, with its 6,000,000 Jews, would possibly mean the end of Zionism, since the abolition of the autocracy would practically eliminate the causes that brought Zionism into existence.” 1905 – New York Times, November 1st, 1905: “From 1800 to 1902 he caused 6,000,000 Jewish families to be expelled from Russia …”
1906 – New York Times, March 25th, 1906: ” … the condition and future of Russia’s 6,000,000 Jews were made on March 12 in Berlin to the annual meeting of the Central Jewish Relief League of Germany by Dr. Paul Nathan … He left St. Petersburg with the firm conviction that the Russian Government’s studied policy for the “solution” of the Jewish question is systematic and murderous extermination.”
1907 – The Jewish Criterion (Pittsburgh), October 18th, 1907, page 13: ” … for six million people cannot emigrate.
1908 – Deseret Evening News, March 17th, 1908: ” … poverty, starvation and disease are the afflictions which now beset the six million Jews in that country and Roumania.”
1908 – The Jewish Criterion (Pittsburgh), August 7th, 1908: ” … when six million Russian Jews are crying …”
I understand perfectly well. A text search of millions of words of type over 50 years or more is likely to turn up about 200 hits for common terms like "six million" and "Jews". In my link, you can see a Holocaust denier (someone sympathetic to the idea of this being intentional) run comparative statistics for other numbers, where he found that "three million" was more common, and then explained this away by arguing that six was slightly more common than five or seven. The statistical meaningfulness of this is zero point zero. What, there's a plan to do something with exactly six million Jews and the way that we prove the existence of this plan is that people happen to count six million Jews in various contexts over which various population counts of Jews did total six million at various times, and they happen to count it just a hair more than five million or seven million? Of course that's no proof.
What you might say was proven is that Jews like to count themselves more than other peoples; and they write more newspaper articles than average; at least that's a tenable theory. But there is no control data for this, except when the person at the link backhandedly disproved it without intending to. I wonder what a search for "nuclear" and "Japan" would turn up and what cult I could start about foreknowledge if I found 200 instances.
lets say hundreds & thousands of times
Not even close, that's an exhaustive archives search. I verified them all myself, all that were listed last time anyway, which wasn't even 200 because most are ridiculous, like reference to $6,000,000. You're replying to a comment where I asked you not to post false negatives. There's no there there. This is an elite research forum, not a racist search engine.
6 .. 6 .. 6 ..
Covid protocols??
Remember the '6' stickers on the floor at Walmart and other stores during covid?
And the "6uild 6ack 6etter" that was supposed to fix things? And agenda (20/30) = 0.666...
It's fortunate for us that the Satanists can't help 6ut do this.
If you were in charge of a movie studio you could make films about the 6 million atrocities and make the world beleive you.
But what if you were in charge of all of the movie studios?
Ever notice you never see a picture of a 7 digit holocaust tattoo? 5 out of six jews should have had a 7 digit number tattooed on them.
I'm so happy to see this. I caught wind of this a while ago & actually went & did some research / verified myself. Rags like the NYT have their entire archive that far back (and further!) available online, FREE, so I dug in........FOUND the articles myself.........
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A common Jewish narrative is that 6 million Jews were killed during the holocaust. As it turns out they were already claiming that six million Jews were either killed, in danger, or starving years before World War II even started.
Somehow that number was decided on prior to the first Jews being killed in World War II.
That's what 'm getting from this.
Thanks I didn’t catch that this was before
Six million Jews have to be burned before their Messiah can come.
Yes it's in the talmud
That is false, hoax #3. Actually a missing waw ("6") in a particular word in the Torah (not Talmud) was taken to be a prophesy of 6 million Jews being killed, after the fact. No clear prediction there, just what we call an imaginative "delta" that means something to a few people.
u/ItsBacon
We've been lied to in a BIG way.
If 11 million people died in the Holohoax then 5,022.83 people would have to be killed by the Nazis 24/7/365. It is obvious bullshit once you apply logic. They could not have had the fuel or time to burn all the bodies and there is no evidence for mass graves.
At 3 hours per cremation (low estimate), they would have had to run 628 ovens continuously without even pausing for maintenance. It makes literally zero sense.
BASED!
If you want a longer answer, this is it!
This is some top-tier number-fagging for sure... could be symbolism but could also just be an accepted count around 1900 that was then never updated and when people looked up how many jews there were at any given time up until about 1945 they found this 6mil number and ran with it. Its an interesting list for sure though.
I have previously listed this as recurring hoax #3 about Jews.
This is a statistically insignificant list of retrospective searches for the terms "six million" and "Jews" in close proximity, even if the number refers to e.g. dollars instead of people. A comparative search shows that "three million" is likelier to come up than "six million". None of this indicates foreknowledge of any target number as the proposers wish to imply.
u/gtsmatt84 u/rededub u/SidesWithAngels
Nope, I've researched this myself an looked at the archives of several different publications, including the NYT.
I've personally found & read MANY articles with the "6 million" claim, published LONG BEFORE WW2.
Then it should be an easy matter to post "many" articles that do not just have the text "six million" but actually predict prior to 1945 (by which time that would have been a reasonable guess) that six million Jews will be killed by Germany. And not to post any of the hundred false negatives. But nobody here has done that but only posted false negatives.
I think you misunderstand.
What we're all saying is this: For several decades before the holocaust (I'm seeing articles as far back as 1902), people have found at least 200 (yes, two hundred) separate articles that make claims of "6 million jews" in a whole variety of situations.
We're not saying anyone predicted anything; we're saying that the number "6 million jews" has appeared lets say hundreds & thousands of times before allegedly "6 million jews" were "killed in the holocaust."
So the point is; how coincidental is it that it's always exactly "6 million jews" at great mortal peril....?
THAT is the point.
And here's a nice little link for ya. I have personally verified - not all, but enough - of these that I consider this true & myself correct. And further below are a few of the headlines copied from the link.
https://worldpeace365.wordpress.com/2017/11/26/two-hundred-six-million-jews-allegations-from-1900-1945-2/
I understand perfectly well. A text search of millions of words of type over 50 years or more is likely to turn up about 200 hits for common terms like "six million" and "Jews". In my link, you can see a Holocaust denier (someone sympathetic to the idea of this being intentional) run comparative statistics for other numbers, where he found that "three million" was more common, and then explained this away by arguing that six was slightly more common than five or seven. The statistical meaningfulness of this is zero point zero. What, there's a plan to do something with exactly six million Jews and the way that we prove the existence of this plan is that people happen to count six million Jews in various contexts over which various population counts of Jews did total six million at various times, and they happen to count it just a hair more than five million or seven million? Of course that's no proof.
What you might say was proven is that Jews like to count themselves more than other peoples; and they write more newspaper articles than average; at least that's a tenable theory. But there is no control data for this, except when the person at the link backhandedly disproved it without intending to. I wonder what a search for "nuclear" and "Japan" would turn up and what cult I could start about foreknowledge if I found 200 instances.
Not even close, that's an exhaustive archives search. I verified them all myself, all that were listed last time anyway, which wasn't even 200 because most are ridiculous, like reference to $6,000,000. You're replying to a comment where I asked you not to post false negatives. There's no there there. This is an elite research forum, not a racist search engine.
Is it as statistically significant as 6 mil Jews being gassed out and turned into ashes in Germany?
As in, along with all other statistics?