Yea, yea, yea. I ain't clapping to vigorously until the price of gas comes down to below a buck and a half a gallon. Just because President Trump has the world by the short hairs doesn't equate to relief for the average American.
Unfortunately, ethanol is a sop to Green advocates (think of it as "pre-burned" gasoline) and a fix for farmers who want corn subsidized. The Green justification is finally out the window, but will the government have the courage to terminate the subsidy to corn growers? Meanwhile, ethanol is corrosive to fuel systems. Now we need to re-examine the need for low-CO2 engine combustion. The more the merrier, say I. Shell was marketing an approach that added amines to the fuel composition (more hydrogen vs. carbon). I think now it is all nonsense. The only thing that matters is low NOx and CO and no unburned hydrocarbons. Let fuel economy and power rule the day.
The one virtue of ethanol is that it increases the octane rating of gasoline, which improves resistance to knock and increases the benefit of high compression ratios. Ah, real life... Ever full of arguments pro and con!
To be fair, that may have been due to the availability of tetraethyl lead as a knock suppressant. No longer available.
Ethanol as a knock suppressant seems credible to me. The Offenhauser engines of auto racing fame had compression ratios of 15:1 and were fueled with methanol. Not the same, but chemically related. (Methanol vapor is 5 times more toxic than ethanol vapor, however.)
Well, my show car Cudas aren’t high compression, nor are they soft valve seats that need lead additive. They both run on ethanol free and are void of knocks.
You don't get knocks with low compression. But that was what the recommended octane ratings were all about (low-test and high-test). You couldn't make the higher octane ratings without tetraethyl lead. Now, with supercharged/turbocharged engines, the compression ratio is effectively high and some kind of knock suppression is required. (Lead plate-out on valve seats was a discovery after the fact.)
I truly don't get it. We are exporting millions of barrels of our oil (thanks to DRILL BABY DRILL) to other countries while our own citizens have to pay super high gas prices. We're essentially subsidizing. Why not use executive power to tax the export of oil so that domestic supply exceeds demand. That would drop prices "like a rock" overnight.
Oil companies would be mad for a while but they really have no choice. It's not like moving a factory overseas.
Oil has a bit of an unusual economic system. Oil is not 100% fungible. That is why different oils are priced differently. But they are close. Heavier oils actually deliver a better profit margin. And a lot of our refining is set up for that oil. But we are mixing in more light oil. So the companies export light sweet and import heavier oils from Canada, Mexico, Venezuela and a little from the Middle East.
As far as price goes, you can think of it as the oil going into one big pot for the world and baring disruptions, people are paying the same price. And there is a lot of oil on ships just sitting at sea to be bought on the spot market.
It sucks in the short term, but the higher prices and exports at higher prices are providing the capital for the next wave of exploration. Alaska, Greenland, and maybe New York, depending on the midterms.
Yea, yea, yea. I ain't clapping to vigorously until the price of gas comes down to below a buck and a half a gallon. Just because President Trump has the world by the short hairs doesn't equate to relief for the average American.
I have to agree. I remember getting angry when prices went above $1.00 a gallon
Haha! I remember my father claiming JESUS return eminent because gas went past 60 cents.
Seriously, I’m penalized even more for wanting ethanol free gas. Cost me $5.28 a gallon the other day 😡
Unfortunately, ethanol is a sop to Green advocates (think of it as "pre-burned" gasoline) and a fix for farmers who want corn subsidized. The Green justification is finally out the window, but will the government have the courage to terminate the subsidy to corn growers? Meanwhile, ethanol is corrosive to fuel systems. Now we need to re-examine the need for low-CO2 engine combustion. The more the merrier, say I. Shell was marketing an approach that added amines to the fuel composition (more hydrogen vs. carbon). I think now it is all nonsense. The only thing that matters is low NOx and CO and no unburned hydrocarbons. Let fuel economy and power rule the day.
The one virtue of ethanol is that it increases the octane rating of gasoline, which improves resistance to knock and increases the benefit of high compression ratios. Ah, real life... Ever full of arguments pro and con!
I think the boosting of octane is BS. You had 110 octane pure gas back in the muscle car days. Ethanol has no place in gasoline period.
To be fair, that may have been due to the availability of tetraethyl lead as a knock suppressant. No longer available.
Ethanol as a knock suppressant seems credible to me. The Offenhauser engines of auto racing fame had compression ratios of 15:1 and were fueled with methanol. Not the same, but chemically related. (Methanol vapor is 5 times more toxic than ethanol vapor, however.)
Well, my show car Cudas aren’t high compression, nor are they soft valve seats that need lead additive. They both run on ethanol free and are void of knocks.
You don't get knocks with low compression. But that was what the recommended octane ratings were all about (low-test and high-test). You couldn't make the higher octane ratings without tetraethyl lead. Now, with supercharged/turbocharged engines, the compression ratio is effectively high and some kind of knock suppression is required. (Lead plate-out on valve seats was a discovery after the fact.)
No kidding, I can't even look at the Regular 101 leaded (aka Av gas) price. These days
Also, it's above $100 right now.
Normies will not care until the pump prices drop.
Im far from a normie and same tbh
That's understandable. I'm still convinced it's short term pain being traded for long term prosperity, but only time will tell.
You mean uh.. two more weeks?
The U.S. is the new OPEC.
I truly don't get it. We are exporting millions of barrels of our oil (thanks to DRILL BABY DRILL) to other countries while our own citizens have to pay super high gas prices. We're essentially subsidizing. Why not use executive power to tax the export of oil so that domestic supply exceeds demand. That would drop prices "like a rock" overnight.
Oil companies would be mad for a while but they really have no choice. It's not like moving a factory overseas.
Oil has a bit of an unusual economic system. Oil is not 100% fungible. That is why different oils are priced differently. But they are close. Heavier oils actually deliver a better profit margin. And a lot of our refining is set up for that oil. But we are mixing in more light oil. So the companies export light sweet and import heavier oils from Canada, Mexico, Venezuela and a little from the Middle East.
As far as price goes, you can think of it as the oil going into one big pot for the world and baring disruptions, people are paying the same price. And there is a lot of oil on ships just sitting at sea to be bought on the spot market.
It sucks in the short term, but the higher prices and exports at higher prices are providing the capital for the next wave of exploration. Alaska, Greenland, and maybe New York, depending on the midterms.
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Love my President!
And so far the gas station I used to get it for $1.86 under Trumps first term is now $4.47
Two days ago it was $4.84 for me.
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California $7.49
oil goes down when there is a recession.