Lol the power move of "The Great State" of Canada is hilarious. It really shows who is in control now - and - we are seeing that play out.
This feels like the posts that talk about us having "Everything" on these foreign dignitaries - because we see Trudeau do things that he wouldn't likely do on his own, like fire this finance minister.
Who wants to bet that when Trudeau and Trump met, Trump revealed some very incriminating insight to show Trudeau who's in control...
Now Trudeau gets to do the dirty work of firing these people - which will cause their previous coalition to become confused and quickly self terminate once they realize their wall has been penetrated. The rats will scurry - and we're seeing that unfold.
"Who says we're more interested in feeling vindicated rather than the truth?"
Then why, on an investigation site, automatically start with a Conclusion - instead of presenting "A Situation Worth Investigating"?
Using scripture to refute a point I didn't make isn't a good move.
You used scripture to defend the word "Vindicate" - as if I said that was a bad word or a bad thing. I didn't say that.
What I did say was - "feeling vindicated" is a slippery slope to sniffing one's own Pride.
God hates pride more than anything.
On this journey, we will encounter feeling vindicated.
We need to be very careful that doesn't turn into Pride."
And that word of caution is incredibly true for us here.
Consider all of the eager beavers we have here who would LOVE to go rub it in their neighbor's face that " I WAS RIGHT ABOUT "COVID"!" - I struggle with my own version of this.
If a person isn't Christian, I would expect them to do that.
If a person is Christian - I would ask them - is such gloating going to win their neighbor over to Jesus?
It's the same internal attitude of Pride at work - and this is the slippery slope that I was warning against.
The need "To be Right" instead of the desire to "Know Truth".
Anyways - the impetus to share such a thing wasn't a personal attack on you - so please pause if you feel a desire to swat back again.
The impetus is sharing a word of encouragement for anyone that is here and interested in the line of "work" we're in - encouragement to stick to the straight and narrow path of Truth Seeking in a time where that becomes more and more difficult as different blends of post-election emotions and circumstances play out.
Read what I share with that tone and it will come across as it's intended - helpful, and not hurtful.
Have a good day.
saw that too - tried a bunch of the other links in DemPanic's post and they all returned variations of "user not found". Seems they were scrubbed already.
I completely hear what you're saying. And I would not argue for a second that this couldn't be some mkultra'd or somehow-other-"bad guy" influenced shooter.
What I was responding to was the original framing of the post -
"If you think this "shooting" happened in Madison Wisconsin, you're a fool."
It literally - did - happen.
Did we settle on that trans shooter going into the Christian school in Tennassee being a FF that was only partly real?
Or was that just settled on being a deranged trans shooter who had a connection to feds?
My point is we've accepted in the past that the shootings were real, but were done by deranged fed-connected nutjobs.
It's fair to say that I don't have first hand evidence, nor have spoken to my brother about it yet - and thus don't have a real nugget to bring to this.
But my impetus wasn't that - it was just to refute the - "If you think this "shooting" happened in Madison Wisconsin, you're a fool." - conclusion jumping - that tends to make us look very uninterested in discovering truth, and instead adding another "i told you so" to our already overflowing hats.
by the way - looks like you've been here only 2 months.
Welcome!
Yeah - you're very intelligent.
I've been posting all this time - only just now to come out as "a fed" on this one issue.
Good investigation!
thank you
"feeling vindicated" is a slippery slope to sniffing one's own Pride.
God hates pride more than anything.
On this journey, we will encounter feeling vindicated.
We need to be very careful that doesn't turn into Pride.
That will lead us down a path that includes saying "I KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON!" instantaneously - rushing to conclusion and forfeiting investigation.
If we're going to say that God wins - then we have to adhere to the understanding that God is only interested in Truth.
Real truth.
And if we're concerned about Real Truth - and not just BEING VINDICATED - then we should take a second and investigate.
To make sure we're, Really, operating on God's side (Truth) and delivering him a win, instead of a Lie (which I believe is Not in fact a win)
My brother was a responding officer.
It's not fake.
It's great that we're eager to investigate things here.
But part of investigation, is a process of coming To a conclusion.
Starting at a conclusion (it's fake), is not an investigation.
And the fact that my brother is there, means that I know it's real.
Which really makes a person question how much "Investigation" is going on here these days...
So, you see - this method of eagerly shouting "I KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON!" before investigation plays out - really... undermines the credibility of what we're supposed to be doing here.
Have a good day.
thank you
thank you
wrong - censor would imply trying to Stop discussion.
I refuted the automatic instant claim it was a FF.
That's not stopping a discussion - that contributing to it.
And also - you had to dance over a lot of what I said to come to that conclusion.
have a good day.
responding officer.
his wife says he's responded that he's fine. I'm sure i'll talk to him later about it - but it may be vague - he doesn't like to talk about the things we'd rather not see.
Thank you
Thank you
Enough with the FF label on this crap.
My brother is there.
Enough.
False - I know. Brother is here. Enough with this.
Seems this was reported on by this site - a year and a half ago.
Also - within that article we find this:
"Fake News A scientist said he found a chapter of the Bible hidden for more than 1,500 years.
These misleading articles have been circulating for the last few months as clickbait sensational articles, by misrepresenting facts. They claim that the manuscript reveals a hidden chapter or never before seen text, which imply that some unique textual variant or a textual reading has been discovered. However, in reality the writing within this manuscript was hidden beneath an overwritten text, something which is not rare in ancient manuscripts, where due to scarcity of manuscripts, they had to recycle the existing books; the reading (content) itself is not unknown. The Syrian text is identical with the existing Syrian (Peshitta) Curetonian Gospels, as mentioned in the linked Cambridge article.
Collation of the Gospel text based on the UV images produced by the Vatican library, enables us to establish that the extant text is identical to the Curetonianus (British Library, Add. 14451). Although in a number of instances the Curetonianus and the Sinaiticus agree against the Peshitta (Matt 12.5, 12.6, 12.7a, 12.7b, 12.8, 12.10a, 12.11b, 12.12, 12.13, 12.19a, 12.24b), there is significant evidence to demonstrate the absolute agreement of the Vatican fragment with the Curetonianus as against the Sinaiticus (Matt 12.1b, 12.2, 12.3, 12.4, 12.9, 12.10b, 12.11a, 12.16, 12.17, 12.19b, 12.21, 12.22, 12.23, 12.24a, 12.25).
The variants are so minute to be useful only for the textual critics. The old Syrian translation (Peshitta) is known to be from the third century, and this copy in question dates to under the sixth century. Aina reports:
A medievalist from the Austrian Academy of Sciences (OeAW) has now been able to make legible the lost words on this layered manuscript, a so-called palimpsest: Grigory Kessel discovered one of the earliest translations of the Gospels, made in the 3rd century and copied in the 6th century, on individual surviving pages of this manuscript. The findings are published in the journal New Testament Studies. One of the oldest fragments that testifies ancient Syrian version
"The tradition of Syriac Christianity knows several translations of the Old and New Testaments," says medievalist Grigory Kessel. "Until recently, only two manuscripts were known to contain the Old Syriac translation of the gospels." While one of these is now kept in the British Library in London, another was discovered as a palimpsest in St. Catherine's Monastery at Mount Sinai. The fragments from the third manuscript were recently identified in the course of the "Sinai Palimpsests Project."
The small manuscript fragment, which can now be considered as the fourth textual witness, was identified by Grigory Kessel using ultraviolet photography as the third layer of text, i.e., double palimpsest, in the Vatican Library manuscript. The fragment is so far the only known remnant of the fourth manuscript that attests to the Old Syriac version--and offers a unique gateway to the very early phase in the history of the textual transmission of the Gospels
For example, while the original Greek of Matthew chapter 12, verse 1 says, "At that time Jesus went through the grainfields on the Sabbath; and his disciples became hungry and began to pick the heads of grain and eat," the Syriac translation says, "[...] began to pick the heads of grain, rub them in their hands, and eat them."
Claudia Rapp, director of the Institute for Medieval Research at the OeAW, says, "Grigory Kessel has made a great discovery thanks to his profound knowledge of old Syriac texts and script characteristics." The Syriac translation was written at least a century before the oldest Greek manuscripts that have survived, including the Codex Sinaiticus. The earliest surviving manuscripts with this Syriac translation date from the 6th century and are preserved in the erased layers, so-called palimpsests, of newly written parchment leaves.
The additional gloss of "rubbing them in hands" in Matt 12:1 is simply harmonization with Luke 6:1. Maybe such variant exists in some Greek mss as well.
We can observe how misleadingly the source Claudia Rapp exaggerates the value of the Syrian translation by saying the original translation which began in the 3rd century is older than the oldest (full copies of original) Greek, like the 4th century Codex Sinaiticus. These oldest full copies are often misrepresented as the oldest surviving Greek text, as if there are no surviving mss before them."
If the title is misleading, should we trust what we're being asked to believe after the title?
"Remember your oath"?
"You will know them by their fruits"
For me, this is the phrase to judge this movement through and none other.
Why?
Because as much as I want to agree with the assertions above - frankly, can any one of us honestly declare with certainty that this is a decentralized movement here?
Sure - many of us say we are at such and such location - and I'm sure many are. But does that even matter? All it takes is a few leaders that are coordinated to establish a believable mirage of decentralized/citizen-driven communications.
If any of us are honest - the claims in this post are not verifiable - by the very nature of "ANON" being the cornerstone of the banner we all converse under.
I have no way to personally verify that any of the mods here aren't CIA. Do I think they are? Probably not.
But let me ask this - Does it matter?
And here is where I return to the first phrase -
"You will know them by their fruits"
What fruits?
None of us are moved to Inaction. Quite the opposite - if I look at my sample size of Myself, I have been ACTIVATED over the last four years - and by extension, I ACTIVELY engage those around me to push them towards the truths that we talk about here.
That is all I need to know to understand that the fruits are not the same as Operation Trust - which lulled people into inaction.
So - if this movement here was indeed an Operation Trust and it's mission was the lull us - It didn't work on me. And knowing I'm not some golden example alone in the world - I know that it didn't work on many others here either.
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Because We Just Saw the Fruits - and many more are unfolding.
We have a customer base who has nothing from their own production. That's a huge opportunity for sales to any country who makes stuff.
Exactly.
"he would then go off and claim irrefutably wether we believed or not that it all tied into Jesus being incarnated and residing in the city as well?"
Oh wow - I never saw that, but had enough strange exchanges with him that I'm not surprised.
He would share some vague info that asked more questions than helped - and when I displayed eagerness to engage with him and go as deep as he wanted to on that subject (I'm about an hour from Racine) - he would seemingly avoid the invite to go deeper together, give a run around vague answer and sometimes get hostile in tone.
It was strange.
I get that some of us (ok, most of us!) here are strange ducks - and that's fine - but something about the exchanges with him felt... disingenuous once pushed.
Whether he's actually disingenuous or not isn't what I'm questioning, so much as - if he were genuine, then why make it so difficult for those of us here who are willing and "on his team" here? That's why I stopped spending energy on him.
I'm still curious about Racine whenever it comes up though since.
Pray and earnestly ask him to show you He's real.
Luke 11:9-10. 9 “So I say to you: Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. 10 For everyone who asks receives; the one who seeks finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened
Proverbs 8:17 I love those who love me, And those who seek me diligently will find me.