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Borntoquestion17 2 points ago +2 / -0

The trillions of dollars the announced missing from the Federal government on 9/10/2001, there was an active case investigating the missing money. The prosecution documents were all stored in WTC-7 and the defense’s documents were all stored in the exact part of the pentagon that was destroyed. “Certainly a coincidence” but the case was never reopened after that

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Borntoquestion17 1 point ago +1 / -0

No doubt, not saying that at all. This is definitely a natural phenomenon they’re trying to blame on us to extort money and power. But the ice is legit melting in certain places (and adding in others). All the planets in our solar system are heating up (via ssp) due to us entering a free electron cloud in space (known as Christos consciousness and referenced in many ancient religions)

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Borntoquestion17 2 points ago +2 / -0

Look up operation high jump and the journal of admiral Richard Byrd. He explains there are massive DUMBs networks in Antarctica under the ice which are home to massive number of scientific experiments (many very immoral). It is also the home to extraterrestrials and is what people referred to as Atlantis many centuries ago (flash froze when the pole shift happened and was “lost to the sea” and we can see this did happen around then as the ice in west Antarctica is only ~10k years old while the ice in the east is millions of years old).

Nazi’s took their advanced research (mostly UFO technology) down to New Schwabbenland and built up a presence there. Submarine hunting planes have flown over the continent and mapped a tunnel system high enough to fit the Eiffel Tower and wide enough to put several 747s side by side in them. We built several similar bases (though much smaller) in Greenland during the Cold War. That is the true hidden HQ of the cabal and why they’re so protective. Also why they’re so worried about global warming, as the natural ice melting threatens to reveal their subterranean network

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Borntoquestion17 1 point ago +1 / -0

I have neither the crayons or patience to explain this to you. I do understand the difference, but there is an additional nuance you get. You having a low IQ wasn’t part of my argument (my argument didn’t include that as one of its tenets), but rather a separate observation. For it to be a fallacy, my argument needs to hinge on that statement to some extent, otherwise it is a separate thought. Do you understand the difference between a valid and sound argument? None of my actual argument was underpinned by my statement of your intelligence. Therefore even if it was false and you are smart that wouldn’t effect the structure, validity or soundness of my argument.

But yeah, you’re not the enemy, I’m glad you’re part of the movement and am glad your a brother in arms for the fight for God. My point was never about you, just got that way when you attacked me instead of my logic (“he was talking about praying, you doofus”) when you didn’t even actually know what I was talking about. My only point at the beginning was that the Bible doesn’t prove alien life doesn’t exist, and people who say the Bible doesn’t say so so it’s not true are failing to grasp the full point that Q is making. Again I love God, Jesus and the message of unconditional love.

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Borntoquestion17 1 point ago +1 / -0

No the institution is different from the faith. I believe very much in the faith but when the institution is more infiltration than the original institution, you can’t say it’s just infiltration anymore. But yeah I’m not attacking your faith and not saying there aren’t wonderful people still as part of the institution. But take away all the hidden crimes, when you have a city filled with gold and riches and a world full of impoverished, you’re directly not following Christ’s example. But clearly you don’t care for facts, you just want to not have to question your own beliefs

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Borntoquestion17 0 points ago +1 / -1

That’s alright, I’m glad you understood at least a little of what I said, even if 99% went over your head.

My points weren’t at all about that, I just said that after you completely missed the point of several posts and then made derogatory comments based on your own misinterpretation.

But yeah, you totally got the point of what I said hahaha

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Borntoquestion17 1 point ago +1 / -0

I don’t think Christianity is corrupted but the church most certainly is. To use a more real example akin to your Chinese spy one, if you bring in a ton of Nazi scientists via operation paper clip and they then take over the entire government, you don’t just have an infiltration, the nature of your government has changed.

Again:

Christianity is good Catholic Church is a evil

You can’t just say oh the president, the Supreme Court and congress are all corrupt but the federal government isn’t

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Borntoquestion17 1 point ago +1 / -0

Hahaha ok sure. You’re totally immune from evil’s influence. Glad you read through what Q said and really took the time to comprehend the nuances. Why are you even on this site if you don’t agree with Q?

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Borntoquestion17 0 points ago +1 / -1

Yes an ad hominem is a personal attack. That you’re right about. But for it to be a fallacy it needs to be essential to the argument. My argument is completely separate from my assertion of your stupidity. Also don’t act high and mighty, you were the first person to attack the other directly as a person and not their argument

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Borntoquestion17 1 point ago +1 / -0

All I originally said is that Christianity has been corrupted in some ways by the cabal (a simple fact if you believe in Q and if not then idk why you’re here). Many in leadership positions worship satan instead of Jesus. That was all I was trying to prove, that and not to use your faith to avoid doing research. Ironically you’re not one of those people who do that so idk why were arguing, but then you starting sending insults and I’m not sure what you’re trying to prove or if you’re just here to shill

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Borntoquestion17 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yeah but for it to be a ad hominem fallacy it would have to actually be an underpinning of the actual argument (aka a tenet of the argument without which the argument would not be valid). That’s not what I said, my argument and my comment were two separate things. Also you are the one who started attack the others intelligence so funny that when it come back your way you tuck tail and run.

Gonna quit arguing with you because it’s like playing chess with a pigeon. You shit on the board, knock over the pieces and strut around like you’ve won the game.

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Borntoquestion17 1 point ago +2 / -1

Just because they’re using it to distract doesn’t mean it isn’t true. If you’re mad at me I can distract you by telling you something worse someone else did: it’s the truth but used to distract from another truth

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Borntoquestion17 1 point ago +1 / -0

So your argument is that Easter (named after a goddess of the spring) has nothing to do with the rabbits and eggs that were also associated with the same goddess?

Ok so then if they’re not at all related and just happen the same day, what is your holiday called? Surely it isn’t named after the pagan figure.

And then are you going to say it’s just random chance that Christmas trees are also on the same day you celebrate the birth of Christ?

You really don’t understand the world and I’m starting to feel bad for picking on someone that very realistically might be mentally handicapped so I’m very sorry. I’ll leave you be

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Borntoquestion17 1 point ago +1 / -0

At no point in that info here rambling did you make anything close to a rational logical thought. We are all dumber for having heard you talk. It’s like you just regurgitated words you’ve heard smart people use without actually understanding what any of them actually mean. No part of that was ad hominem or a logical fallacy, I just called you on your bullshit of pretending you knew what you were talking about when you clearly don’t. It’s ok to admit your wrong, or you can keep digging your grave and show the world the wonderful depths of your stupidity.

And you’re the one who started this by pretending to know what Trump was talking about but being hilariously wrong and now you’re just upset and trying to cover your stupidity. It’s ok, someone’s gotta make the rest of the world look smart. You’ve got a purpose.

It’s ok to admit you’re not all too bright, I’m sure deep (deep deep deep) down you’ve got some valuable qualities, critical thinking just isn’t one of them.

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Borntoquestion17 1 point ago +1 / -0

So god was surprised about how many counties we have? Because that’s the full quote: “I was talking to someone not of this world the other day and he was surprised by how many countries we have”. Wow I thought he was all knowing but thanks for the note.

Try not to speak about things you don’t understand. But then again that might be hard since your IQ is lower than your thermostat setting

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Borntoquestion17 1 point ago +1 / -0

So then what are the Easter celebrations about? Old pagan rituals? Then congrats you just proved my point. Christianity is filled with traditions that go against Christ’s teachings

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Borntoquestion17 1 point ago +1 / -0

That’s all I’m saying. Not saying people celebrating Easter aren’t celebrating Christ, simply using it as an example that mainstream Christianity has been highjacked by occultists to some extent. That was the point. And that’s the thing, these dark magic rituals are very real to those who practice them (and I would argue are real, look at how many times they talk about mediums, witches and dark magic in the bible). So yes people are still celebrating Christ but celebrating him in the traditions of the very people Christ stood against. It’d be like celebrating Jewish heritage by dressing up in Nazi uniforms and goose stepping around will doing the hail Hitler salute; you could say you’re still celebrating Jewish heritage but that’s a really fucked up way to do it.

And again my point isn’t that people don’t believe in Christ or that they aren’t celebrating him. My point was the Christian faith has been overrun with satanist occultism

So for my question to you, what is it going to take for you to accept that maybe your beliefs aren’t right? I’ve done the research and come to a conclusion I didn’t believe in before I did the research. You’re just saying I don’t believe it so I won’t look into it, I’ll just call it a conspiracy (which is exactly what Q told us not to ever do, and is what we complain the sheep are doing). This wasn’t question everything until it gets personally uncomfortable for you and your beliefs, it was question everything. The biggest Christian institution is one of the most evil, satan worshipping child trafficking cabal vehicles so maybe you could take it all with a grain of salt? I’m not attacking your faith but I am saying if you say no I draw the line here and nothing that is counter to the Bible could be true and I’m not even gonna do any honest research, then you really aren’t any better than any of the sheep.

Also are you saying Q was wrong when he said aliens are real? Have you looked into the trip codes which link to SKUs for books on exopolitics? Or that he linked to the MJ12 account? If not then I guess you’re not really interested in the truth, rather just maintaining your belief system. And if that’s the case, I don’t need to waste my time on a lost cause... “the end won’t be for everyone. The choice to know will be yours”

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Borntoquestion17 0 points ago +0 / -0

Because I’ve personally had it verified by 5+ different sources and seen one with my own two eyes... I’m a pilot and know no man made plane could do what it did.

So idk what you want me to say but I’ve had the multiple DoD people I know personally say it’s true, several special operators, a person out of Area 51, one of the top NASA people and more all tell me directly it’s real off the record (people I know well and trust). And again I’ve seen one with my own two eyes.

So don’t know what other proof I’d need to know they’re real but when you figure it out please tell me.

If you are willing to keep an open mind, look into the Vril society, operation high jump and operation paper clip. Also all the terms used by Trump supporters on reference metaphysical concepts of the universe shared in ancient religious texts and the supposed new paradigm of science were entering with quantum physics.

5D chess: moving from 3D to 5D reality Highest optimal timeline: multiverse theory and timeline hopping High energy: chi, kundalini awakening, etc

Also Trumps uncle, John G Trump was the FBI agent in charge of collecting Tesla’s research upon his death. Just imagine what he saw there and taught DJTrump about.

Also in one of Trump’s COVID press conferences he literally said “I was talking to someone not of this earth the other day”. So is Trump a liar too now? Why did trump create the space force? It’s to release all the SSP black patent technologies to the world. This is so much bigger than you understand. The mass arrests aren’t the end of this, just a way to clear the board for a quantum leap in human society’s evolution

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Borntoquestion17 1 point ago +1 / -0

I could definitely see that, but why the bunny and Easter eggs? Ester’s symbol as a fertility goddess was a white rabbit and the way you prayed to her was killing a child, draining its blood and dipping eggs in the blood to dye them red before hiding them in the temple. Whoever found them was said to have the goddesses blessing. So if that’s not the reason for why we hide eggs for kids and have rabbits associated I’d love to know the Christian reasoning. Also she was a springtime goddess (hence Easter timing) when science has shown the eclipse mentioned in the Bible did happen that year but in November.

And the only historical reference to Christmas trees was nimrod saying every December 25th, cut down a coniferous tree, bring it inside and wrap it in tinsel of gold and silver. So what’s the Christian reason for the trees and how does it relate to Jesus? Also where in the Bible does it say anything about December 25th?

And to Christianity and loving your neighbor I don’t disagree at all. But then where’s this hostility towards certain groups of people coming from like gay people for example? Not saying you’re not right about what the Bible preaches, just how it is practiced today. People seem to like to pick and choose who they want to love and who they want to omit

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Borntoquestion17 1 point ago +1 / -0

Well they said we’re in control of spaceship technology not made on earth, so either there are aliens or we have already colonized other planets.

And I do think it is a distraction tactic by the Cabal, but I think they’re distracting with real information in controlled releases. Like just because they use it to distract doesn’t mean the info is real, just means their timing is opportunist.

And yes, I do believe these people in the DoD as most of them are close family friends. Also the NASA person I asked was at the bohemian grove and got very scared when he realized that I wasn’t supposed to know what I know. He confirmed that high jump was crucial to the American space program (officially it had nothing to do with that) and then when he realized I wasn’t supposed to know his face went pale and he just left without saying a word

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Borntoquestion17 1 point ago +1 / -0

No... and I didn’t say he was in particular. But I can say there is real research into aliens and their technology. And the DoD has confirmed it publicly now.

But if you go back and read ancient religious texts you will find the stories of the Bible written down long long before Jesus, the same teachings being taught and understanding of concepts we are just beginning to grasp such as quantum mechanics. They talk about the world as made up of light and controlled by the mind; CIA documents released under Trump say the exact same thing. And scientists are now returning to our ancient knowledge as the new paradigm but ignoring our past knowledge of the subjects. All I’m saying is the history we have been taught is far more fiction than fact. And not looking into it because your religious texts tell you not to is no better than people who don’t look into Q topics because the media tells you not to. More often than not in history religion has been used as a means for power and self enrichment than it has been for helping humanity reach salvation.

We know from Q the biggest Christian institution is not only a cabal asset but practices satanism actively. Taking their word at face level is just as dangerous as trusting Biden, Fauci, Gates, Soros or the Rothchilds. Not attacking the faith, just the institutions

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Borntoquestion17 1 point ago +1 / -0

I mean in a way yes, I cannot prove what truth lays behind the deception. But I do believe that Jesus came here to teach us the true lesson of unconditional love. This message has been horribly marred (in my belief) by deciding who is worth your love and who isn’t. I actually believe in a lot of channeled material about the nature of the universe and Jesus being a 5D being who incarnated into a 3D lifetime to teach us the true nature of the universe and the key to our enlightenment.

But yes I can’t say what the unadulterated truth is. But I can say that I do not believe in the full story as it is portrayed or practiced today. Even the holidays like Easter and Christmas celebrate evil entities (Goddess Ester and Nimrod). This may sound dumb, but I believe we all have an intuition which comes from our soul knowledge and we can feel what is true. I think it’s what brought a lot of us to Q in the first place before we’d seen enough evidence to prove to ourselves Q was right. I think most of the things about love and peace were true in the Bible because that can’t be used to control people. But I think a lot of how Christianity is taught and practiced by some misses the whole point and focuses on semantics and details. I also believe that Jesus wasn’t the only prophet but one of several sent here with the same message: to wake humanity up to our true nature and the nature of the universe, to ultimately prepare us for the great awakening and life in the next dimensions/densities.

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Borntoquestion17 1 point ago +1 / -0

Thank you for the history lesson. I actually very much appreciate it though my previous post probably doesn’t show that. I don’t mean to attack the Bible but do get upset when people in our own movement just decide something isn’t true without doing their own research: it makes it feel like we’re no better than the sheep and haven’t really learned the lesson Q was here to teach us. Q wasn’t here to show us the whole truth (“the end won’t be for everyone”), he was teaching us to think for ourselves. Just get upset when people blindly dismiss when I’ve actually had this stuff confirmed by multiple sources very high up in the DoD and other places

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Borntoquestion17 3 points ago +3 / -0

Again don’t think the Bible is wrong. I actually take it more literally than most do. But I don’t think it’s the end all be all of humanity’s knowledge. And we know that it has been edited by man so I’m just saying it isn’t the pure unadulterated word of God on earth anymore.

Interestingly it actually fits very well with the theory in question where they are mostly describing interactions with ET. Most of what they described as magic or miracles were technology we couldn’t understand. A great book to read if you’re interested is the Book of Enoch (Noah’s great grandfather) which was part of the Bible until it was removed in the Constantine convention around the year 1000 if I’m not mistaken. He talks about being taken into a crystal temple and walking to a table of flashing crystals before the whole temple lifted off the hill and flew into the heavens (sounds like flashing buttons on a control panel of a ship). Then he describes the moon orbiting the earth, the earth orbiting the sun and the sun in its own orbit of the galaxy (well over 1000 years before Galileo).

But long story short is the theory that a group of aliens crash landed on earth and salvaged their ships to make a highly technologically advanced society which we dubbed Atlantis (in Antarctica). They needed slave labor so they found the species closest to them and spliced some of their DNA into us (similar to modern Crispr) and made us much smarter in a generation (hence the missing link and us being made in their image). They also brought war and suffering which is the proverbial fall from grace/the garden of Eden. Flash forward several thousand years and Antarctica freezes due to pole shifts (west side used to be where Australia currently is) hence lost to the sea. They subtlety control humanity and create hybrids to rule over us (Devine right to rule) and they only interbreed to keep the bloodline pure (why royalty intermarried). The Nazi’s discovered a lot of this truth (hitlers obsession with the occult, trips into Egypt and India for old technology and artifacts) via the Vril society. They focused on this tech instead of the nuke which is why we beat them to it. They knew they were going to lose so they went to Antarctica (New Schwabenland) to hide their tech and we followed in operation high jump. We got our asses handed to us and within the year operation paper clip was in full swing. We shot down a craft expecting to capture Nazi’s in Roswell but instead shot down actual aliens. Eisenhower met with them but decided humanity wasn’t ready for the truth so he started Majestic 12 to keep the truth from humanity. They hatched a 80+ year plan to get humanity ready for awakening including the Hollywood symbolism and more. Q is a recent part of that effort as we reach the climax.

The elite aren’t just evil for no reason, they serve these alien groups who feed off loosh (negative energy caused by suffering). The cabal creates war, disease, famine, poverty and more all to create loosh for their ET rulers. The thing is, now there’s a good ET group (confederation of light) to fight the bad ETs (Orion group).

Trump even said in one of his Corona press conferences “I was talking to someone not of this earth the other day and they were surprised how many countries we have.” Q has said aliens are real “Are we alone in the universe? No. Consider the vastness of space. Highest classification”. This is what he means when he said “the end won’t be for everyone. The choice to know will be yours”

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