The Coriolis force demonstrates that the atmosphere does indeed rotate with the earth.

Not only is gravity a very probable force, but that force is generated in part by the very billions of tons of water you describe. Every object, every particle with mass, generates gravity. It’s a weak force for relatively small masses, but on a planetary scale the forces add up.

Clouds stay in the sky because gravity isn’t the only force at work. There is buoyancy caused by atmospheric density and temperature, which varies both by altitude and latitude. Those billions of pounds of water vapor are not concentrated like liquid water because it’s not in a liquid state (hence the term water VAPOR).

Constellations appear in the same place for thousands of years because a) they’re dozens to hundreds of light years away, and b) because they’re orbiting around the center of the galaxy in the same direction and roughly the same orbital velocity. Eventually the constellations will wander due to slight difference in velocity, but over a time period of tens to hundreds of thousands of years.

Speaking of constellations, the very fact that the constellations precess around the earth in a precise and measurable manner is what allowed ancient humanity to accurately measure the diameter and curvature of the earth when the Great Pyramids were built. This is why the Great Pyramids encode both the radius and diameter of earth at the precise scale of 1:43200.

If you’re going to spout about how round earth is some great deception, at least present some facts.

Not sure what you mean by water “finding it’s balance”, but the movement of water is largely governed by gravity constantly pulling it downward. Hence water always flows downhill (unless there’s enough pressure or a blockage downstream that prevents it from doing so).

The earth and oceans in general are squeezed into a spherical shape because that’s how gravity behaves with sufficiently large masses. That’s why the Sun, the other planets, and any moon or asteroid over 300km in diameter are round. It’s the lowest energy state that an object can take in a gravitational field.

If you’re going to assert that we’re indoctrinated, you’re going to need to do a better job than “muh 666! NASA bad!”

You have failed to make a single accurate statement in your defense of flat earth, not have you demonstrated how a flat earth does not violate every known law of physics. Why do you call us ignorant and indoctrinated when you can’t defend your own theory?

Also, the Earths firmament has been fundamentally misunderstood.

The notion of the firmament being a glass or ice dome above the earth comes from an 19th century scientist (who’s name I can’t recall at the moment) who explicitly stated that he got the idea from pagan mythology.

A better reading of the creation of the firmament indicates that it refers to the earths crust. When the crust was created, it divided the waters on the earth into two, roughly half trapped below and roughly half left above. Denser parts of the crust sank through the lower ocean to connect with the earths mantle, these are the pillars/foundations of the earth mentioned elsewhere in the OT.

During Noah’s flood, this crust ruptured and allowed the lower ocean to jet out and cover the entire earth as Genesis says. Side effects and chain reactions from this effect created all geological features that you see today. Debris from the earth was ejected into outer space, creating asteroids and comets, some of which impacted the moon giving it its distinctive dark spots. Other forces created all current radioactive elements, changed how long the month and the year were, and sorted Flood sediments into the layers that are mistaken to indicate millions of years of evolution.

More details and scientific evidence, see The Hydroplate Theory by Dr Walt Brown. He goes over the scientific evidence for everything I just described and more, along with more general arguments that support creation over evolution.

1. Earths axial tilt is not 66.6 degrees, it is defined as 23.4 degrees.

2. Earths orbital velocity is an average figure since earth slightly speeds up and slows down over its orbit. This number can also be expressed as 107,183 km/h.

3. Earths curvature can also be expressed as 20.32 cm/1.6 km, or 12.6 cm/km.

4. The number of the beast is 666. Not 66,600, not 0.666, not 66.6. Also, just because the number of the beast is 666 doesn’t mean everything with 666 in it is satanic. This is one of the most common and egregious misinterpretations of Revelation.

You’re deliberately cherry picking data and units to make 666 appear where you want it to be. The fact that you go actively looking for 666 says more about you than it does NASA.

The moon does rotate on its axis, it just does so in sync with its orbit around the earth, thus presenting the same side to the earth at all times. This is called tidal locking. Io is tidally locked to Jupiter as well, as Enceladus is to Saturn. Those moon’s rotations are more obvious because we’re not observing them from their respective planet’s surfaces.

If you’re going to spout about how evil and incorrect NASA is, at least educate yourself on the topic first before you embarrass yourself on the internet.

Not earths axial tilt, that’s for sure.

1. The 66,600 orbital velocity number is an average figure. Orbital mechanics demonstrates that the Earth will slow down a bit at its aphelion (furthest point from the sun) and speed up a bit at perihelion (closest point to the sun). This is true for all orbits as they’re all slightly elliptical.

2. Axial tilt is 23.4 degrees, not 66.6. Taking the complement of axial tilt and calling it axial tilt just so that you can get a 666 somewhere is inaccurate and disingenuous.

3. Just because Revelation says that 666 is the number of the beast does not mean that every number with 666 in it is satanic. By necessity at some point in human history there were 666 humans on the planet. Does that mean we’re satanic?

4. The North Star actually moves ever so slightly in the sky, your eye just isn’t sensitive enough to detect this. The North Star is very closely aligned to Earths spin axis and is also 323 light years away, that’s why it doesn’t appear to move very much.

5. I obviously can’t see the result from your laser experiment, but other flat earthers have performed similar experiments and accidentally proven that the earth is round.

6. NASA and flight trainers sometimes assume that the earth is flat because it simplifies calculations in situations that don’t require that level of precision. They don’t make this assumption all the time, and it’s called an assumption for a reason.

7. The earths curvature is clearly visible from a plane at cruising altitude, and one’s view is not always obstructed by clouds. Airlines are not trying to hide anything from you except the fact that their pilots are dropping dead from the jab.

You do make a good point. Now that I think about it, ex post facto applies more to laws passed by legislatures that rulings issued by courts. One of the functions of a court is to determine whether conduct is lawful after it’s been done.

I don’t think ex post facto will allow for that.

I’ve read pretty much everything on his Substack, unless he’s put up something new in the past 2 weeks. The thoroughness and detail in his research is unparalleled, that’s why I believe his theory is superior.

I agree.

I prefer Devolution, though Reconstitution is also plausible. It’s just that 17SOG uses bizarre marketing that seems too LARPish to me. Patel Patriot does a much better job of staying down to earth.

You and I have vastly different philosophies then. I’m more of an objectivist; I believe that reality is distinct from human perception and not dependent on it.

While I would agree that hostile, Satan-worshiping organizations have infiltrated government and academia for centuries, this doesn’t mean that everything they say is a lie. If everything was a lie, including space, it would be a lot easier for ordinary people to debunk and expose the lies. From a purely strategic perspective it’s better for the cabal to mostly tell the truth (or at least something close enough to it) and save the big lies for stuff that’s harder to disprove (or more important to their agenda). The more lies you tell, the harder you have to work to keep your lies straight and not contradict yourself. With regards to space, it’s relatively easy to prove that the Earth is a sphere, that it orbits the Sun, and that other objects in the solar system are millions/billions of miles away. It would not be wise for the cabal to lie about something that anyone with a telescope and math can disprove.

Furthermore, if you’re going to postulate an alternative theory for how space or the universe works, then that’s great, so long as you have evidence and sound reasoning for it. If you want to say that the moon is a space station or made out of cheese, but don’t have any evidence for it, then your theory isn’t any more helpful than whatever the mainstream theory is.

With regards to the Earth/Moon ratio, it’s not quite as anomalous as you think. Pluto/Charon is even more extreme, Pluto just isn’t classified as a planet anymore so it makes Earth look more anomalous compared to other planets. And other more plausible theories exist, with the most defensible in my opinion being direct creation.

“The only absolute is consciousness itself”

If reality is a hologram, how do you know that consciousness is absolute? How do you know that you’re experiencing legitimate consciousness? How do you even define consciousness since words and their meanings are part of the simulation? In my opinion once you deny the existence of objective, independent reality you start rapidly descending into absurdity. Once you start questioning the validity of logic, words, and definitions then you take away the very tools with which to defend your position.

“Every major technological accomplishment in history is always repeated over and over”

Every accomplishment you listed has direct economic or personal benefits, hence why others followed suit. Coming to the Americas provided land, natural resources, and religious liberty. Transatlantic flight provided travel and business opportunities. Satellites provide communication, navigation, and military intelligence. Going to the Moon had some benefits, such as increased scientific understanding of our solar system, but not as many personal benefits as the other accomplishments you listed.

Americans have physically landed on the Moon 6 times, with 30 total missions to the moon ( the other 24 missions orbited the Moon). Russia/USSR has had 23 missions to the Moon, all of theirs being orbital. China landed a rover on the Moon in 2007, and India has orbited the Moon twice in 2008 and 2019. Your assertion that no one has been to the Moon after the first moon landing is false.

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2019/09/which-countries-moon

“You underestimate Mockingbird Media”

If MSM was as powerful as you say it is then you yourself wouldn’t know about the 24% or Russians stat that you cite. Every MSM narrative that has been fielded in the past 2 years has been debunked in weeks if not days or hours. Covid origins, Covid jabs, election fraud, the truth about Ukraine; it has all been debunked by ordinary people doing their own research, often without any funding. The MSM is not nearly as good at censoring the truth as you think it is.

Also, whether 24% of Russians believe the Moon landing is fake is irrelevant. Belief doesn’t matter, what matters is whether you have evidence and sound reasoning. And when it comes to Moon landing denial (and also flat earthers), they have neither. All their arguments ultimately boil down to: “I don’t like NASA, therefore everything they say is a lie. Also I don’t have to provide any evidence, and if you contradict me then you’re and idiot or a NASA shill”.

When Q talked about the truth sending people to the hospital, it’s more reasonable to suspect he’s talking about everyone in government/entertainment being Satan-worshipping pedophiles who orchestrated 9/11. There’s far more evidence for that than for the Moon landing being fake or the earth being flat.

The FBI is getting better with its false flags.

It is true that a lot of our info about space comes from NASA, but there are several other competing space agencies as well. The EU, India, China, and Russia all have space programs, so if NASA put out false info at least one of the other agencies could debunk the claim. China and Russia in particular would gleefully take the opportunity to publicly embarrass NASA if it put out bad info.

To your comments on dark matter and black holes, we can be reasonably confident that black holes exist. They don’t violate the laws of physics, they’ve been theorized to exist for decades, there are regions of space that behave as if black holes are there, and now we have photographs of them. Dark matter, on the other hand, is purely an invention of evolutionists because the current distribution of galaxies and galaxy clusters doesn’t match with what would be expected from the Big Bang. Dark matter/energy are attempts to fix a fundamentally broken Big Bang Theory because modern science considers any alternative to evolution unacceptable. That’s why dark matter/energy are allegedly completely undetectable and have no evidence supporting them; they don’t actually exist.

Not saying space related news isn’t used to send comms, it may very well be the case. Just adding my two cents.

I don’t think the notion that the US is secretly a corporation has been sufficiently proven. Last time I checked into the 1871 act that proponents point to, I didn’t see anything about turning the entire country into a corporation. It seems to merely relieve Congress of its former duty to govern Washington DC and created a local government to perform that role.

Any legal experts here who can chime in?

I still think the Royal Family was/is a big part of the Cabal, and removing them from the board is huge if they’ve been neutralized.

This is highly plausible and probable, but doesn’t change the fact that the Koran itself calls for violence against infidels, and always has from the beginning of the religion.

Just made Muslims that much easier to manipulate.

Also, Jews aren’t the Israelites from the Old Testament. They are khazarians, a subgroup of Caucasians who converted to Judaism in the 8th century. This is well after the Talmud was written, which claims that Gentiles are inferior and should be either subservient to “God’s people” or eradicated. So the Khazarians called themselves Jews and “God’s people” to justify attempting to rule the earth. Jews have no more claim to Israel than anyone else, it’s not their land.

Rothschild, Soros, etc are all such Jews.

OP is a Freemason! /s

If someone makes the assertion that someone died months or even years before their death is officially announced, the burden of proof lies on the person making the assertion. You don’t get to make up random statements and use the lack of evidence as proof.

People who make such arguments from silence are probably bullshitting you.

Anyone telling you: “(insert person here) acchkually died/was executed years ago…” is probably bullshitting you.

TTV: “Please pray for the courage to act on the truth we will present”

Also TTV/Gregg: doesn’t present anything.

Just your friendly reminder that TTV, Gregg, et al. Still haven’t pulled the Ripcord, have not distributed info to sheriffs nationwide like they said they would, and massively overhyped the Pit.

EDIT: downvote all you want, doesn’t change the facts.

Gregg exploded at someone on TS for daring to suggest that the CIA might, just might, be compromised. Anyone care to explain why Gregg is simultaneously so naive and such a dick?

Unfortunately I couldn’t agree more.

I really want to trust TTV and Gregg, but like you said, sometimes they act like white hats and sometimes they don’t.

I was shocked at Gregg’s reaction to people criticizing the CIA. Like… has he been living under a rock? The CIA has had a negative reputation for years, decades among the kinds of people the populate GAW/Q researchers.

The string of broken promises and endless divisiveness are huge red flags. I’ll continue to check out whatever info they do release, but if they don’t release what they say they have, well there’s nothing else I can do.

Frequencies… of what?

Frequencies don’t exist on their own in a vacuum. It’s a property that wave/cyclic phenomena have. Light has frequency. Heartbeats have frequency. Frequency doesn’t exist on its own.

For example, exceptionally high frequencies of light (X-rays) are used to kill cancer cells because using such high frequency light is like shooting a computer with bullets. The bullets disrupt the hardware on the computer that allow it to function so it dies. In the same way X-rays tear apart cancer cells so that they die, at least in principle.

Not yelling at you specifically, but taking the opportunity to point out how Med bed advocates use deliberately vague wording and prey upon the public’s lack of familiarity with scientific principles to push their narrative. As a major science enthusiast, I want to set the record straight and help others discern when people are using pseudoscience or no science to deceive them.