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IvanMectin 1 point ago +2 / -1

Radiation levels today are considered no different from normal anywhere on earth. It's a bustling city of over 1m residents. Population returned to pre-1945 levels by mid-50s. The bomb was detonated in mid-air, to maximize the physical 'shock' effect, and most of the radioactivity rose up with the mushroom cloud. Compared to (eg) Chernobyl, where tons of radioactive material was involved, the bomb that dropped on Hiroshima contained relatively small amounts of radioactive material. Also, Hiroshima was hit with uranium, less deadly than the plutonium used in Nagasaki.

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IvanMectin 0 points ago +1 / -1

Well, yes, but ... Horses have a primitive digestive system that is designed to consume vast amounts of low energy grass / hay / etc. Humans have a sophisticated digestive system that can process a very wide variety of food sources. I would not expect a dose based on body weight (of a horse) to be appropriate at all. By way of an anecdote, my g/f took 400 mg of ibuprofen recently (prescription strength), after surgery. It caused internal bleeding. Normal dosage ('over the counter') is closer to 200mg or less. So even something as innocuous as ibuprofen can do harm when the dose isn't right. I would carefully review the dose personally.

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IvanMectin 0 points ago +1 / -1

But I bet you didn't read the manuals before you bought the vehicle! And the manuals are produced by the manufacturer, who isn't an independent body. The NHTSA is not unlike 'VAERS' in some ways, in that, it allows the public to report problems with their vehicles. I recently reported a problem with my car on that site (which is what brought it to mind). I learned along the way that there were occurrences of randomly broken windshields, headlight issues, brake issues, etc.

So if you didn't go there, you are exhibiting 'ignorance', to use your criteria. But that's not how life works. If you didn't know about it, or didn't know it was of use, you wouldn't spend your valuable time seeking it out.

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IvanMectin 0 points ago +1 / -1

It was also prohibitively expensive for most!

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IvanMectin 3 points ago +4 / -1

As I commented above, don't you mean, 'one less natural born citizen...'? a naturalized citizen is one that was born overseas and became a citizen later.

"Naturalized citizens are foreign nationals who have become citizens of the United States after fulfilling requirements ... "

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IvanMectin 1 point ago +2 / -1

Don't you mean, 'non natural-born citizens' as opposed to 'non naturalized citizens'? Naturalized means they were born overseas and became a citizen here later, vs being born here.

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IvanMectin 0 points ago +1 / -1

I know hundreds of people who've taken the jab, and they consider themselves as 'well informed' - they read MSM and they look at things like CDC. So the government is saying 'do it'; the MSM says 'do it'; your church says 'do it'; the CDC says 'do it', and friends say 'do it'. The people I know are BUSY with jobs, raising families, etc - they don't have the luxury of extra research over and above all the above.

By way of analogy, do you actively research all the "NHTSA" (NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION) reports of car safety issues before you drive every day, or even before making a purchase of a new car? Or do you rely on the fact that, 'if there was a problem I'd hear about it'? To many people, they wouldn't know where to begin doing the 'research' you are suggesting. Not everyone visits GA (or knows of its existence).

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IvanMectin 0 points ago +1 / -1

What I mean is, if I go to church and my pastor tells me to get the shot, and I go to my doctor and she tells me to get the shot, and I'm a busy person not able to spend time researching, then taking the shot is a perfectly 'normal' thing to do.

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IvanMectin 1 point ago +2 / -1

If you get the vaccine based on clear guidance from what you consider to be a valid source, how are you 'turning your back on him'?

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IvanMectin 0 points ago +1 / -1

I'm double-vaxxed, last shot in April. I doubt I got a placebo / saline because I had the well-documented immediate side-effects - aching arm, mild flu symptoms, etc. I doubt a placebo would have that effect. I know at least 100 people who've had the vax and close to 100% experienced the same 'day after' effects so I don't think a single one of them could have had a 'placebo'. Not one person has reported feeling bad, and everyone is lining up for the booster (if they got Pfizer).

To the OP - your Daughter-In-Law will be fine - relax.

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IvanMectin 1 point ago +1 / -0

In CA, they required proof, and they had two beefy guards at the entrance.

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IvanMectin 6 points ago +6 / -0

My g/f had severe stomach/abdominal pain and I took her to an 'urgent care' facility, and they immediately sent me to the ER. We arrived at 6pm, and by midnight they removed her appendix. It was already leaking which led to complications. Home the next day. Had we delayed, it could have been really serious. So not sure what you mean by 'death's door' ...

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IvanMectin 4 points ago +4 / -0

I'm in CA and my g/f had an emergency last month. Took her to ER. She was allowed in regardless of her vaccination status, but I was only allowed in as her 'partner' or 'advocate' after I provided proof of vaccination. There were two beefy guards at the entrance to ER.

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IvanMectin 3 points ago +3 / -0

you can bread them and deep fry them like french fries.

I read that as 'breed them and deep fry them' initially, and I thought, wow, this guy is serious!

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IvanMectin 2 points ago +2 / -0

I just went to DDG and entered Ghislaine Maxwell. The main result page did not include any reference to DJT. BUT - if you click on the 'images' filter at the top, DJT is in the third picture. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ghislaine+maxwell&t=hx&va=g&iax=images&ia=images

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IvanMectin 0 points ago +1 / -1

So you are quite comfortable accepting an argument that says, basically, 'When I'm right I'm right, and when I'm wrong, it's because 'disinformation is necessary' - so I'm always right!

In other words, I can say "we will invade China tomorrow at 9am ET". If it happens - boom - proof of my amazing knowledge. And if it doesn't happen, 'disinformation is necessary'. I mean, it's super cool because it means you can never be wrong, but it doesn't stand up to the most basic of analysis.

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IvanMectin 1 point ago +2 / -1

Between 'disinformation is necessary', 'game theory', and time deltas, absolutely any failure to predict an event can be excused. The first four sentences above are granting a complete 'pass' to any failure.

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IvanMectin 0 points ago +1 / -1

I have to say I don't know enough about the 'gain of function' research to have an informed opinion. I certainly don't doubt that such research took place; the 'motivation' for such research is where the question lies (in my opinion). As for the virus 'coming from a lab' vs 'natural origin'. Again, I don't have an informed opinion but I don't doubt that it 'could' have come from a lab. And again, it's not whether it came from a lab or not, but rather, was it intentionally released.

I think it is fairly likely that labs do such research, and it's certainly possible that accidents happen. The real question is, was it released on purpose, and if so, why. I personally find it hard to accept that it was released intentionally but I remain open to suggestion.

When talking about grand conspiracies, I remain skeptical that there is a coordinated world-wide attempt to implement a global agenda of the nature proposed in this forum (population reduction, etc). I accept that in our capitalist society, 'big business' is in general driven by profit over and above concern for human welfare, and with global corporations, the 'scope' of this 'drive' will transcend conventional borders. But I don't believe there is a coordinated effort by 'the elite' to kill people off.

Regarding:

There should be no vaccine mandates. There should be no coercions

I understand and agree with the sentiment overall. But I do also see the 'why'. In the mainstream view, the vaccine is like the speed limit or the 'drunk driving' restrictions. You are required to limit your alcohol intake while driving, and also limit your speed, not for your OWN protection but for the protection of others (primarily). People generally accept these restrictions and understand that it is for the benefit of everyone. In the case of the vaccine, the only way the virus will be stamped out is if more than 'x' percent of the population have immunity - either through vaccine or infection. In order to reach 'x', the majority have to take the vaccine and thus - the mandates/incentives are implemented. I understand this from an epidemiological perspective. I don't personally think mandates are good, but I'm less opposed to 'coercions'/'incetives'. If in fact the virus is 'real', and if in fact the vaccine reduces transmission, then - limiting entrance to public spaces does make some sense. You aren't being forced to take the vaccine, you are allowed to choose. But if you choose not to, you can't enter a public space. I can see the logic of that.

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IvanMectin 0 points ago +1 / -1

I don't think you and I are far from each other in terms of our positions. I thoroughly despise 'Big Pharma' because they profit from disease and have little incentive to produce actual 'cures'; healthy people don't need expensive drugs.

Regarding the special liability protections, I agree with you in general but I do accept that for Covid, a 'fast track' solution was desired under the circumstances and liability protections were a natural consequence. All drugs understandably require lengthy trial periods and no pharm company would commit to a 'fast track' without protections - so that just 'goes with the territory'.

Where I differ from 'many' of the people here on GA is that - while I hate 'big pharma' - I don't think they would intentionally develop a poisonous vaccine, and I don't think that our doctors and nurses are involved in some giant conspiracy to deploy a dangerous vaccine. Yes, a hospital may get some incentive to classify a patient as 'Covid', but beyond that, I simply don't see the vast, independent network of hospitals and medical groups collectively exerting the level of control that would be necessary to pull something like that off. Maybe in the UK (where I grew up), where they have a somewhat monolithic healthcare system, but not in the US, which has a loose association of private, independent businesses.

Doctors, like lawyers, are an arrogant, pain-in-the-ass group of people but for all the criticisms I'd lay at their feet, being easily manipulated is not one of their characteristics. I simply cannot conceive of a situation where the vast majority of doctors and nurses, worldwide, would collectively agree to a) push something that is bad, and/or b) suppress something that is good. Doctors and nurses are, as a whole, truly committed to the health and wellbeing of their patients.

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IvanMectin 0 points ago +1 / -1

Again - thanks for the engaging discussion!

I presume 'vaccines' in this context is just the Covid variety (Pfizer, JJ, AZ, Moderna) - or are you opposed to all vaccines?

I disagree that Pfizer is not effective. People seem to use the fact that the vaccines don't PREVENT infection as an automatic condemnation. If you wear a helmet on a motorcycle, it doesn't mean you will walk away from an accident without injury; it simply reduces the likelihood of serious head trauma / death. What the anti-vax folks are saying is the equivalent of - 'look, this guy still broke his arm when wearing a helmet so that proves helmets are useless'.

Anyway - I just read this article today - https://globalnews.ca/news/8243462/pfizer-covid-vaccine-six-months-study/ . I realize this is Pfizer's own study and is reported by Reuters, which probably automatically invalidates it to you, but there are hundreds of similar studies and reports (I'm just posting this one as an example of the hundreds of similar reports). I don't expect the vax to stop me from getting infected; I expect it to stop me from getting hospitalized or ending up dead. I believe there is proof that this is the case. Maybe Ivermectin, Zinc, HCQ, etc will also achieve that but I get the 'vax' for free, it takes 5 minutes, and lasts at least 6 months ... vs taking a hard-to-find cocktail of other meds on a daily basis for months.

As an aside, I would say I know at least 100 people personally who've taken the vax and have not been negatively affected. Beyond that, I'm a member of various online communities where I'd say at least another several hundred people have mentioned taking the vax and have not had any negative reaction. These are people and communities that don't have an axe to grind or political agenda - so I'm comfortable believing them.

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IvanMectin 0 points ago +1 / -1

Thanks for the thoughtful reply! Very different from the usual discourse here.

Regarding this comment:

Then I asked her whether alternatives works against Covid and she went quiet. She then whispered that she is not allowed to talk about that.

I have friends who are doctors and I don't hear anything like this. I agree they are busy and aren't always doing all the research, but there is absolutely no hint of a 'conspiracy' to suppress discussion about alternatives. One doctor friend has told me he's quite optimistic about Ivermectin, and he's totally opposed to 'Big Pharma' on many levels (profiting from disease, no incentive to actually 'cure' diseases, etc) but - he said the vaccine itself is a 'fine product' and fit for purpose. His complaint is that the vaccine solution is not suitable for 3rd world countries (financially), and he wants to see (eg) Ivermectin researched and (hopefully) approved for use in those 3rd world countries. But he thinks the vaccine is the best solution and appropriate for (eg) US, UK who can afford it.

I too worked in Silicon Valley my entire career until retirement, but had no issues with the people in general, other than a surprising level of naivety (about how Social Media is destructive). I do think Facebook is fundamentally evil, but not because they censor people; they are evil because they promote conflict and profit from it. I view people like Zuckerberg as immature leaders who are totally out of their depth ... but without evil intent.

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IvanMectin 0 points ago +1 / -1

I'm here on this particular thread because I see people literally in tears over the vax. Talk about not living in fear! People have worked themselves up into a frenzy about the vax and are inventing all manner of crazy narratives about it. Tentacled monsters was the last thing I saw. I'm just trying to convey a different perspective ... not everyone out there who is vaxxed is dropping like flies. So - if you don't want it, don't get it - let freedom reign - but don't drive yourself to despair because others are getting it. They will be just fine.

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IvanMectin 0 points ago +1 / -1

Just take a look at this site (GA) - hundreds of people literally calling for public hangings and executions! These are supposedly God-fearing Christians. Covid has brought out the worst in many people. But having said that, everyone I hang around with is happy and simply getting on with life.

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