Now's the time, frens - Harris is ineligible to run for President because her parents were not US citizens at the time of her birth. Spread it far and wide!
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It doesn’t matter to the dems.
Refer to Hussein Barry sorento etc
But maybe the narrative has changed. This year has been interesting. What if this becomes the possibility? Worry about bummer later. Here is the catch though, if she is ineligible to run for potus, then she would not be eligible for vpotus. I know it's crazy but I'm drunk and enjoying the outdoors on my day off. Lol
Updoot for "drunk and enjoying the outdoors on my day off."
At least his mom was a US citizen.
She was only 19, which means she wasn't an adult for 5 years before his birth as required by federal immigration law at the time.
Thank you! I did not know that!!
Barry Soetoro
Exactly this.
Like "CHEESE" y like he is?????
That didn't stop the Kenyan.
Correction: WE didn't stop the Kenyan.
Correct. If our party would take a heavy dose of Gro-a-cet, and grow some balls, WE could take take the commies to the mat and perhaps prevail.
One of the advantages the commies have is they cry and/or go ape chit crazy and most people will “claim” they are taking the higher road to keep peace—if that stops this go around that would be fantastic.
The Spiritual need to have a revival and the patriotic need to get some hearing protection.
They can make some sounds that are both super annoying and super spiritual at the same time.
If you're talking about the Republicans, they're just as corrupt as the Democrats. If you go by what the framers' meant by "natural born citizen" - born on US soil to US citizen parents, with no blood or soil ties or obligations at birth to any other nation.
McCain wasn't eligible either. He was born in Panama, not on a US base, which would have been considered US soil. Like Obama, he tried to hide his birth certificate. But Panama was less reluctant to release it than Hawaii was to release Obama's.
The cabal wants presidents that violate this requirement so they can put in whomever they want.. They know they can't change the requirement through the legal process, so they are trying to do it by precedent, along with control of the courts and the media.
Can't argue with a thing you posted. Didn't know about McCain. He is a poop stain on Arizona and deserves the no name moniker. The McCain machine needs purging from the state but it is like a tick and firmly entrenched. Lots of work to do eh?
Yes and lying - A LOT
It’s not location, it’s both parents.
We lost when Clinton got re-elected.
We will now have to take the country back.
That stuff is right next to the Grecian Formula 16 in the personal care aisle
That will come in time; The moneychangers still own the department of justice. That is about to change.
Looking forward to it very much!
Right, we let it go unchallenged for Hussein, but this time someone needs to take this to SCOTUS. There is quite a bit of historical evidence that shows a Natural Born mean born to a father that was a citizen.
I googled around the subuds do you have any reading links?
FTFY. Look up Mohammed Subud and Subud Worldwide and Loretta Fudy and thank me later 👍
What was the name of the whole movie done on that?
The Kenyan will be her running mate, mark my words
Exactly
Exactly. She was an anchor baby. Will this be used to later educate the public on the Constitution to be also used to annul Obama?
When to play that card? Don’t rush. Let the state rules lock her onto the ballot.
Technically, ineligible to serve as (inaugurated) President, I believe. Can still run but cannot be inaugurated? Perfect candidate (post Nov 5) if Dems want somebody else inaugurated on 20JAN. Their shenanigans may result in Trump as “acting President” via Speaker of House and appear as complete blundering.
Dems just stepped onto the slippery slope of their own destruction.
If this happens, all the popcorn I am eating will be worth the end.
u/#popcorn
Yes and I'm pretty sure Obama is the running mate
You can't be elected more than twice to serve as president, but no one said anything about vice president.
It would not be very wise to have Obama as VP. If the republicans control the house, and the sitting president dies, the speaker would become president due to the two term amendment.
I'm not a legal scholar, but the text says you can't be elected more than twice. Doesn't say you can't be president more than twice.
If you're elected as vice president and then become president, you're not technically breaking the text of the amendment
If Obama is on the ticket with Harris, then he is elected along with her.
yes^ think it's All about educating us so this doesn't 'happen again'.
it reminds me of those made up scenarios in high school, where the teacher would show a reenactment, and we had to analyze it to learn a 'lesson'
Doesn't matter at least according to the 14th, the anchor baby being born here means she's a fucking American Citizen. Yay for our dumbass laws that have never cleared that up.
But not a "natural born citizen," that is, one whose both parents were citizens at the time of birth. That is the qualification for President.
AI search saying her parents were naturalized before she was born..
I don't remember where, but I read an article with what's supposed to be her birth certificate, and neither of her parents were citizens of the USA
Where is that definition of "natural born citizen" coming from?
We both know this to be the case. Sadly, it will never be made clear until the SCOTUS makes it clear.
I think that part is indisputable - she was born as an American Citizen. But does that fit the definition of "natural born"? Which is a requirement for the office of President. Simply being a citizen is not enough.
Anyone born on U.S. soil and subject to its jurisdiction is a natural born citizen, regardless of parental citizenship. This is a legal definition.
We should not waste our time trying to pursue this. There are other ways.
Actually, this might be part of the gameplan to have the Supreme Court make a ruling on it to set precedent for when it’s time to expose the Kenyan.
oooh that would be nice.
Look up a few comments
u/#kek
There is no birthright citizenship in the 14th Amendment.
None
and yet, that is what they use to do all of this shit with anchors.
Indeed the American Indians weren’t recognized as citizens until 1920s through Congressional law.
It was the Indian Citizenship act of 1924.
An Indian even sued the Feds for rejecting his right to vote and he was denied by the SCOTUS.
They cited the 'under the jurisdiction of' clause on the 14th, saying that he was under the jurisdiction of his tribal government, not the Federal govt.
For as much as black people whine about being oppressed, they were citizens before Indians were granted those rights.
That is not the case since 1898.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/natural_born_citizen#:~:text=A%20natural%20born%20citizen%20refers,Wong%20Kim%20Ark%2C%20169%20US.
Seems pretty clear
You did not give a link to source your quote.
It seems to date prior to the 14th Amendment.
If it applied to Harris it would have applied in 2020 when she was VP.
Exactly as listed above my reply
https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/natural_born_citizen#:~:text=A%20natural%20born%20citizen%20refers,Wong%20Kim%20Ark%2C%20169%20US
Scroll down a few paragraphs
"The Constitution does not expressly define “natural born” nor has the Supreme Court ever ruled precisely upon its meaning."
So who says it is defined as "a citizen whose parents were US citizens at the time of birth"?
And SCOTUS already ruled in United States v. Wong Kim Ark that "anyone born on U.S. soil and subject to its jurisdiction is a natural born citizen, regardless of parental citizenship".
So yes, she is a "natural born citizen" and as such, as much as it pains me to say it, is eligible to be president.
I believe still can be lawsuited because Wong decision was only for citizenship and court did not make any ruling regarding for eligibility for presidential office requirements. I could see white hats may even use her anchor baby status to overturn the Wong decision, which was a terrible precedent.
"...is a natural born citizen..." No, SCOTUS ruled that they were U.S. citizens. That is not the same as a "natural born citizen."
I might have been confused about your point.
Harris was born in the US and thus is a natural born citizen, a citizen at birth.
Thus she was eligible in 2020 and is eligible now.
You may be right.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/natural_born_citizen
He literally quoted YOUR link there handshake.
Wow. That sounds an awful lot like “anchor babies”!
I wonder if anyone has been pushing narratives to bring that concept to the forefront and potentially maybe challenge that case in court?
It doesn’t seem likely we’d ever see a long-standing court ruling that’s been used to affect law get called into question and overturned, though.
Yeah it may be White Hats will use her anchor baby status to overturn the terrible Wong decision.
It doesn’t matter the DemonKrats do whatever they please.,🤬🤬🤬
I would rather run against her than anyone else.
yes
Run her anyway. She can't come close to winning and she won't sound any better than biden to the public.
I don't think she will be their pick. (Edit: Was wrong on that one.)
She will be if they find the right VP they really want to be the actual president.
I'd put money down on Obama.
Sorry to be the party pooper, that’s not true.
No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
A natural born citizen refers to someone who was a U.S. citizen at birth, and did not need to go through a naturalization proceeding later in life. Under the 14th Amendment's Naturalization Clause and the Supreme Court case of United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 US.
Has nothing to do with parents because at time of writing the constitution not everyone’s parents were US citizens. There have been Anchor babies since the founding of the USA.
Anchor baby is not a legal term.
Barak Soetoro enters the chat.
Barack Obama will run for a third time but using his real name this time
He'll run as VP, duh.
so it’ll be like his first time
Leslie King enters the chat.
Very true
Google won't bring this up, but Yandex will:
U.S. Senator Kamala Harris is NOT a ‘natural born Citizen” of USA – NOT Eligible to be VP, or President and CinC
https://cdrkerchner.wordpress.com/2020/07/23/u-s-senator-kamala-harris-is-not-a-natural-born-citizen-of-usa-not-eligible-to-be-president-and-cinc-or-vp/
Per the Law of Nations, Harris was a Jamaican citizen at birth.
Based on that argument and your source the First 9 presidents of the USA were not eligible to be US presidents. They were all born before independence in 1776 and constitution adoption in 1789. Linking a Wordpress website doesn’t give legitimacy anyone can make a Wordpress website and spit a bunch of nonsense.
Have you studied the Constitution, in particular, Article II, Section 1, Clause 5?
Who was a Citizen of the United States at the time the Constitution was signed?
THE FIRST SEVERAL BRITISH BORN PRESIDENTS WERE!
Article II, however, provided an exception for foreign-born persons who had immigrated to the colonies prior to the adoption of the Constitution.7 Justice Story explained that this was done out of respect to those distinguished revolutionary patriots, who were born in a foreign land, and yet had entitled themselves to high honors in their adopted country.8
Lol 2020 was stolen. Everything we are witnessing is ineligible
I love shooting the tires of the bus!!! One of my law profs would be so proud, ha ha!!
These evil disciples are creating laws out of nowhere only for us and want us to obey them, it has to be a way to get rid of the absurdity.
I have been ready since I was a little girl.
I already did and God always be with you.
We're talking heels up harris. She does that already on her own.
And?
Sorry but where in the constitution or amendments does it say anchor baby are ineligible,
If all persons born in the US are citizen I thibk that's all there is here
Saying otherwise opens us up to tin foil hat conspiraciats
If she was born in the USA that alone makes her a USA citizen, regardless of what nationality her parent may be.
That is simply how it is. No point fussing over pointless things.
That is not true ... you should read the constitution before making that statement. They really have ruined our education system.
A natural born citizen refers to someone who was a U.S. citizen at birth, and did not need to go through a naturalization proceeding later in life. Under the 14th Amendment's Naturalization Clause and the Supreme Court case of United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 US. 649, anyone born on U.S. soil and subject to its jurisdiction is a natural born citizen, regardless of parental citizenship. This type of citizenship is referred to as birthright citizenship. One can be a citizen while not being a natural born citizen if, for example, that person gained citizenship through the process of naturalization.
I can understand if you are trying to say the correct interpretation of the law is as you have stated. I am merely pointing out at the current legal standard and precedent. The SCOTUS have already ruled on it. So it would take a revision in the same fashion as in Roe vs Wade to change this fact. However, this ruling happened in 1898. It is stablished law.
There is no one alive today in the legal system who has ever viewed this argument as anything other that what was ruled back then.
Also, I actually have the constitution downloaded onto my phone so I can pull it up at a moments notice. Its a great app. I recommend it.
Go read the 14th amendment. You will be very surprised.
Is there a bird h certificate we can point to?
This is absolutely correct. She's not a Natural Born Citizen! We absolutely need to teach people this truth! In order to be eligible to run for POTUS, the person must first and foremost be a Natural Born Citizens (the child of parents who are US Citizens ONLY!). When we ignore this very simple Constitutional mandate, we end up with traitors like the GAY KENYAN running out country! And this needs to be fairly practiced on both sides of the fence.
For instance...many people of a conservative bent just love Ted Cruz (who also has run for President). BUT Cruz is not a Natural Born Citizen and had no business running for POTUS! His father has Cuban citizenship. This disqualifies Ted Cruz. Why didn't that "wannabe" Constitutional Scholar "The great one" himself Mark Levin (Zionist) every point this out to Ted Cruz who he and that other goof ball Sean Hannity have interviewed many times!
People have told me that I am wrong because having "dual citizenship" was not a preclusion in the Constitution and that the language used in The Law of Nations (Emer de Vattel) wherein the Federalists (those who force fed the Constitution down the throats of the other delegates during the First Convention of the States) adopted the concept of Natural Born Citizen speaks only of parents being citizens...in this case...of the United States. However, what people fail to realize in this argument is that there was simply no such thing as Dual Citizenship at the time the Constitution was debated and ratified. So when the Founders (Federalists) speak of "Citizenship" they mean solely citizens of the United States.
Of course, you will never hear this from a Mark Levin or virtually any modern conservative so called scholar because even they like to hide, misrepresent or otherwise botch the history and verbiage of our Constitution to fit their own agenda.
This applies to Michael (michelle) too. I don't believe the demonrats have any legal US citizens to put up lol
Agree'd...I should have included that Indian guy...Vivek Ramaswamy! But it goes without saying...the demonrats WANT candidates who have no allegiance to America. Many of them are have dual citizenship with Israel! Just crazy that we have allowed this.
It's (D)ifferent this time. I wanted that chucklehead to stay in the election. Heels up harris, the left hates her. She failed miserably when she ran, I think she pulled a 2 or 3% of the votes. Someone how, they will pull her cause I cannot see anyway she could win as the Potus and she'll never take back seat to another candidate and run as a VP again, her pride wont let her. I can see them letting her stay in the race.
Here is some deep thoughts from kamala after she flew to france to address leadership, "We must together. Work together. To see where we are. Where we are headed, where we are going and our vision for where we should be. But also see it as a moment to, yes. Together, address the challenges and to work on the opportunities that are presented by this moment.”
Still thinking they'll pull in big mike or hillary. I would love to see hillary, no one likes her. Newsom ranks very low and all they need to do is look at the failure that is california. Maybe they'll go off script and bring in someone like cory "Spartacus" booker.
But back seats are her specialty!
Baaaazing! True, she's definitely earned those well calloused knees.
She was born in the USA thou, her parents status isn't relevant . 14th amendment, she is eligible. Spreading this far and wide will make you look stupid
Neither was zero.
We were taught the 14 Amendment back in the 1960s. Mexican women were used as the example. They would cross the border into the US to give birth because if their babies were born here, those babies automatically became citizens. It didn't matter if the parents were US citizens. If this has changed in some way - I don't think it has- the law applicable at the time Headboard was born applies.
I guess it all comes down to the definition of natural, born citizen, most people assume that means they were born on US soil irregardless of the state of their parents.
They have been really good at twisting and changing meanings but that only proves they know the truth.
Harris was not ever eligible to run for VP or President. The Constitution lays out the qualifications for vice president, and they're the same as those required for the president. Biden wants to finish “his” term. The GOP is drafting the 25th Amendment docs for Harris to invoke against Biden. For you scholars out there, can she legally do so? Are we a Republic now or still under the yoke of the 1871 criminal cabal corporation? I am betting there won’t be a November election.
No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
ArtII.S1.C5.1Qualifications for the Presidency
Natural Born. You may ask, why didn't the framers give more definition to what a Natural Born citizen was exactly.
I ask you, when you order a Pizza, do you say, "I like to order a Pizza, you know there usually round, and have a layer in things like cheese and tomato sauce spread over the top of a layer of crust on the bottom"? No you do not, because everyone over the age of two, knows what a Pizza is.
Similarly, the framers did not feel the need to further qualify what everyone already knew.
The farmers wrote the constitution in 1787, 9 of the 13 states ratified it 1788, it went into effect 1789. The united states declared independence in 1776. That’s 11 years before the idea of the constitution and 13 years before the constitution became effective. In the years before the adoption of the constitution all citizens became US citizens no application for citizenship no oath of allegiance nothing simply for being a citizen of that colony before declaration of independence.
citizenship back then was obtained two ways:
Naturalization process was open to any free white person with two years of residency and good conduct. The person would go to any court of record files declaration of intention “first papers” then three years later files petition for naturalization “second papers”.
When the farmers wrote the constitution they put the natural born condition “birthright citizens” to protect the nation from foreign influence of naturalized citizens mentioned above.
Also don’t forget when the farmers adopted the constitution it was ONLY free white men who became citizens until the 14th amendment 1868 (79 years later).
Your pizza example is flawed, pizza can be square or rectangle shaped it’s called “Sicilian pizza”. Pizza marinara is also a pizza without cheese.
They are all pizza from Italy that’s something not every 2 year old knows.
White pies are usually made with ricotta cheese and no sauce.
Sfincione is tomato sauce topped with grated cheese and breadcrumbs. It's good. Some folks add onion and anchovy.
I took some friends out for Grandma Pizza the other day and they all loved it. It's a style that started on Long Island and I think it will catch on. Square pie, but thinner than a Sicilian. The place I like does a thick cooked tomato sauce on a cracker thin crust.
Admittingly, I considered different shaped Pizzas when typing my reply, but hoped for the sake of argument that I would not encounter some pedant who would hold me to an exact, no holes wording.
So now that I know your name, I am putting you in my pedant list.
It’s your choice and that’s the beauty of our 1st amendment, I hope I type this in time before I get on that list.
Did you know that the first 9 presidents were not natural born citizens? They were all born in British America before the independence in 1776 and WAY before the constitution was adopted?
did you also know President Donald J Trump is just like Obama? One of his parents wasn’t a natural born citizen???
Obamas legitimacy is questioned for not being born on US soil aka Natural Born.
Both presidents have at least one immigrant parent.
President Donald J Trump’s mother was NOT a natural born citizen.
Born in Scotland 1912 migrated to the USA in 1930 married Fred Trump 1936 became NATURALIZED US citizen in 1942 that’s 4 years before our president’s birth.
Are you sure you want to insist on Presidents parents must BOTH be natural born citizens?
President Donald Trump is a natural born citizen because he was born on US soil his mother is not natural born.
Trump's parents don't have to have been natural born. Trump is natural born by your own description. Obama and Harris are not. So yes we should push this matter if necessary. Regardless of the ultimate court ruling regarding a challenge to Harris eligibility, there's a strong likelihood that an injunction could be granted while the court figures it out, in which case the SOTH would likely serve in the role of acting president and given the time required for the trial and any appeals, it's not unreasonable to assume the SOTH would act until a new president is sworn in in 2025
Yes, but it was actually the first 7 presidents, not nine. George Washington, John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, James Monroe, John Quincy Adams, and Andrew Jackson.
Martin Van Buren, our eighth president, was born at Kinderhook, New York on December 5, 1782, six years and five months after the Declaration of Independence. Unlike his seven predecessors, he was not just a “citizen,” he was a “natural born” citizen… the first president, at least thirty-five years of age, who was born to US citizen parents after July 4, 1776.
I know you knew this, and just made a typo, and it's pissing you off to high heaven lol.
Trumps mother was not a Natural Born Citizen:
I said nothing about a Natural Born Citizen being a person whose parents were also Natural Born Citizens. That a person be a Natural Born Citizen only required that that person's parents be Citizens. And this consideration of parentage was Paternal, not Maternal.
Under natural law in late eighteenth-century Europe and America: the father’s blood determined the political allegiance of free persons at birth; the mother was legally irrelevant.
The Supreme Court of the United States has never applied the term “natural born citizen” to any other category than “those born in the country of parents who are citizens thereof”.
Can we please stop with proven losing arguments?
NOPE
The next steps:
Might be part of the plan. To use her status for lawsuits to finally overturn the stupid anchor baby decision in US v. Wong KimArk.
The Left gets to make up rules as they go along according to their feelings. Besides, they stole the 2020 election, so this is nothing to them.
Like that ever stopped them
I remember a judge remarking when throwing out an Obama challenge, "He was vetted by the American people" (referring to their vote!)
Neither of her parents were citizens. They held student visas
Not true. Senator is the highest office her status allows legally.