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My2SonsAreMarines 1 point ago +2 / -1

Grok's fever dream.. A garbage thread replete with unsubstantiated speculation..

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My2SonsAreMarines 1 point ago +1 / -0

If you have ever actually flown around the world as I have multiple times, you would know that the fact of a spherical earth is not a mere theory. No pilot may navigate the globe with the assumption that the earth is flat. Period.

Unless you hold 3 STEM degrees at bachelors and graduate levels and an MBA, I suspect that you do not have as much formal education, as I do. As though that matters. That said, the fact of the spherical dimensionality of the Earth is not a heavy lift for most sufficiently educated people.

If your "God be with you" is not just a throw away line, when the Scripture says in Psalm 103:12 "As far as the east is from the west, so far has He removed our transgressions from us," that promise must be true from any given point on the surface of this Earth.

If the Earth was flat, assuming the known curvature of the Earth calculated at ~ 12500 miles, the maximum linear E-W distance possible without being a spherical globe (imagine an orange cut in half) would mean that God would be limited to separating you from your sin to only a distance of 12500 miles; however, sin is removed eternally, without limit, and in perpetuity, signifying that East chases West or the West, East in perpetuity. Therefore "East from West" may only be determined at a fixed point on Earth if Earth is a sphere.

The only way the East from West concept may be universally true for man is if the "circle of the Earth" spoken of in Isaiah 40:22 is a sphere: " It is he who sits above the circle of the earth, and its inhabitants are like grasshoppers; who stretches out the heavens like a curtain, and spreads them like a tent to dwell in."

Just curious: do you contend that any of the other planets, their moons, and the Sun in our solar system may be flat also? If not why not? Do you agree that their rotations and surfaces are readily acknowledged to be spherical through observation (e.g., pictures taken from the Voyager 1 and 2 craft as they did planet and moon pass by's)? Is there a flat planet anywhere that has been observed that can support your speculation about the Earth being flat? If the Earth is flat, yet none of the other planets in the solar system are observed to be flat, given observed gravitational forces to which I alluded earlier, how would you account for the reason that the Earth would be flat, when gravitational forces of heavenly bodies pull in all directions, and allow for flights of spaceships into deep space to be possible at all?

Given your admission to having accomplished some world wide travel yourself, what did the flip side of the earth look like? Is there an East Pole and a West Pole? When the pilot of your plane flew did he do so in part as oriented in his cockpit compass to a magnetic North or to a magnetic East or West?

If the questions I have asked and my explanations I have furnished continue to puzzle you, how about writing Elon Musk a letter at SpaceX and see if you can get his opinion on whether he designed his rockets and their guidance systems with the basic premise that the Earth is spherical.

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My2SonsAreMarines 2 points ago +2 / -0

I am reading "Adrinochrome" - a mis-spelling of "Adrenochrome", not "Adenochrome."

Compare what you believe to be an "E" in the beginning of the word with the "E" at the end. It is not the same. The letters in the beginning are "RI" not an E"

A web-search will turn up a music group by the name "Adrinochrome," No obvious connection to the legend on the box.

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My2SonsAreMarines 1 point ago +1 / -0

You have never flown in a plane, and have no understanding of the geometry of satellite positioning. Got it. I'll bet you think the moon is flat too. How do you explain the existence of ocean tides without relying upon the gravitational influences of two spheres in rotation acting upon each others' masses?

Since I have flown all over the world and transited many corridors of flight I have the personal appreciation of having been able to see and perceive the curvature of the earth in all positions as flown in an assortment of generally linear directions. Had you had this experience yourself, what you struggle with as only theory for you at this point in your life would be able to be better appreciated as fact.

Seeing is believing. No leap of faith necessary. Just a basic command of mathematical reasoning, Geometry, and Geography.

Study harder.

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My2SonsAreMarines 2 points ago +2 / -0

Aircraft navigate the globe applying the fundamental premise that the Earth is a sphere. I have flown around the World many times and marvel at the contours below from my preferred window seat.

Satellites are positioned around a globe not a pancake

Perhaps you have never flown in an airplane?

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My2SonsAreMarines 2 points ago +2 / -0

COMMUNIST dude named Levinson, ya mean.

Remember that the NAACP was founded with "little hat" money back in 1909 to drive a wedge in society between blacks and whites that the "little hats" would exploit, and as they eventually did.

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My2SonsAreMarines 3 points ago +3 / -0

Is sauce too much to ask for? It's all just fantasy and speculation without sauce.

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My2SonsAreMarines 3 points ago +3 / -0

",,,the Fascists and the political Zionists. This war must be brought about so that Nazism is destroyed, and that the political Zionism be strong enough to institute a sovereign state of Israel in Palestine....

The terms Fascist, political Zionists, Nazism, "state of Israel" were not in existence in 1871. The alleged quotation attributed to Pike is suspect.

Fasci "groups of men organized for political purposes" had been a feature of Sicily since c. 1895 https://www.etymonline.com/word/fascist

Nazi 1930, noun and adjective, from German Nazi, abbreviation of German pronunciation of Nationalsozialist https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=Nazi

Zionism 1896, "movement for forming (later supporting) a Jewish national state in Palestine," from German Zionismus https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=zionism

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My2SonsAreMarines 1 point ago +1 / -0

Why not just make an offer to buy Cuba too, throw the Chinks, their boats, radar and missiles out of there too? I am serious. Yes, Greenland, but let's throw the Commies out of our hemisphere. Make the Monroe Doctrine Enforcable Again

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My2SonsAreMarines 0 points ago +1 / -1

No he's not. He is by his own telling, at least since 2014, he describes himself as a "somewhat lapsed" member of the Church of England.

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My2SonsAreMarines 2 points ago +2 / -0

If so, what does this say about Dr. Robert Malone ( https://www.malone.news/ ), often interviewed on Bannon's Warroom, who claims to be the inventor of the mRNA technologies that were formulated into the CV-19 shots, and who is routinely interviewed standing in front of his brass-enshrined patent placards? He is outspoken against the shots today, yet admits to taking at least one of the shots himself. I cannot recall his expressing any regret for having a hand in the invention thereof.

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My2SonsAreMarines 0 points ago +1 / -1

TL;DR? The fact that you are so butt hurt suggests otherwise.

That you consider my life story as an "anecdote" of success simply reveals that you don't make it a point to surround yourself with the company of successful and truly accomplished persons, from whom you can learn a thing or two, as I do. Mine is only one of many similar stories. I am no one special. Any reasonably intelligent person can apply a sense of stick-to-it-iveness, hard work, sacrifice, academic accomplishment in worthwhile, objectively assessable and credentialed fields of study and arrive at the satisfying and happy near retirement as I have.

Your original posting was little more than a wailing litany of resentments. No evidence exists in anything you wrote that indicates that you "fantastically succeeded" at anything more than possibly becoming a drone and possibly losing your job to a sanskrit, when the true value of your self-styled in-substantially disciplined education and thinking skills deficits became apparent, and you may not have survived the competence v. cost comparison.

"The physics, chemistry, biochemistry, math, programming and business degrees YES could have come from books and nowadays, online teaching."

Is that what your clearly deficient infant internet board "education" taught you? Mere self-validation does not equate with acquiring seasoned critical thinking skills. Self validation leads to a mistaken sense self importance, and too often leads to an inability to be taught by others more accomplished than you are or ever were. People like you typically don't advance in your career because you come off as an insufferable, demonstrably incompetent know-it-all, incapable of managing change. You alone think you're great, but in truth you add no meaningful value to the employer, team, organization, or client that is measure-able enough to keep you gainfully employed.

You are THAT guy about which I spoke earlier who likely didn't have the chops or personal discipline for completing intellectually challenging academic programs, which in turn contribute to cultivation of an intellectual maturity and reasoning skills, borne of formalized and disciplined thought that opens the door wide for enjoyment of personal and career successes.

I'll challenge you to identify just one duly accredited degree program of merit in physics, chemistry, or biochemistry anywhere that relies only on textbooks and online classes. Course work in these disciplines requires a substantial number of laboratory credits and requires a cultivation of scientific reasoning through instruction beyond what mere texts contain. That kind of learning is achieved at a level requiring disciplined mental maturity which is not accomplished through online classes, or in diaper level chat rooms. Texts and online resources are merely a starting place for learning, but your presently immature level of understanding equates what may be appreciated as some tools of learning with the actual end point of learning itself.

" I learned most on my own, from the libraries and the infant internet bulletin boards."

"infant internet boards"? Listen to yourself. Education out of the mouths of babes, was it? Next thing you'll tell us how you mastered 8-bit on the "Trash-80," and wrote "cpm" and PeachText string onto 12" floppies, and somehow you'll expect readers to be impressed. What value have you added to tech lately without being able to rely on "infant internet boards" anymore? You whine today likely because your self-styled "education" did not prepare you to survive in a line of work that soon outpaced your competence and ability to keep up with the changes.

What ever it was you allegedly learned on your own was inadequate to deliver an education and a successful career path suitable to prevent you from whining about what you mistakenly conclude is supposedly every one else's fault but your own to be able to keep up at this stage of your life.

I provided my story as a testament to a successful career path accomplished in part through rigorous academic training, the type of which you resentfully derided, yet which for me by contrast has led to this present level of satisfying career success.

"I have one too and it matters not a whit to the rest of the country, bless your defensive little heart."

One reasonably expects that if your story was worth telling at all for purposes of acquainting readers with any meaningful successes you would have already done so.

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My2SonsAreMarines 3 points ago +5 / -2

"Very few 'higher institutions' even provide a reasonable education and almost none at a reasonable price.... Medical pharmaceutical agent system is a sham, law perhaps may be worthwhile if you're unafraid of losing everything fighting for right and just causes, otherwise I guarantee you will be able to find all the information you need outside of those pricey classes."

People who write like this more often than not simply did not have the chops to perform academically and to parlay their academic success into gainful employment. And no - you will NOT be able to find all the information you need outside of those "pricey" classes. My current bill rate is $750/hr in part because I successfully completed course work, which included "pricey classes," some years ago and I am paid handsomely for what I know and what I do. It was not an easy road to get to this place.

I began my career 43 years ago as temporary lab tech holding 2 BS degrees in Biology and Chemistry (not-Ivy league). I had no scholarships and put myself through college working full time in retail and accounting. Entered pharma research, married my wife (celebrating 40 years this year), entered my first Masters program and completed a MS Biochemistry in 3 years - all night school + thesis. We had 2 children during the time I completed a second Masters in Business (MBA) in 3 years- also night school + thesis. After 10 career years in industry I went to work as a Review Chemist at FDA for 2 years, had 2 more children for 4 total while my wife - a STEM/business grad became a Director of R&D for her company.

I left FDA, returned to the pharma industry in regulatory affairs for another few years, left there, and launched my own consulting firm 29 years ago. Includes work in the legal field serving as a Subject Matter Expert Witness. I live in New England. My 6000 sq. ft. house on 2 acres was paid off 10 years ago. I plan to retire in 2 years. I billed ~ $1MM each of the last two years and our 401(k) is at multi-millions. Took parents in until they passed. Inherited little to nothing - did not outweigh the cost for their care. I and my family are happily un-vaxxed and I turned away business that required vaxxes. All kids college educated and gainfully employed - 3 of 4 hold Masters degrees. Two hold STEM MS's.

I have respect for tradesmen -- one of my grandfathers was a carpenter, and the other was an optician back in the day when they ground their own lenses. My dad was a doctor, wife's dad was a union card carrying electrician. Carpentry and electrical work last as long as the body can physically hold out - both can be brutal on the joints.

Bottom line- Proof's in the pudding: nothing beats stick-to-it-iveness, hard work, sacrifice, academic accomplishment in worthwhile fields of study, avoiding non-manageable debt loads, ultimately becoming debt free, and setting worthwhile goals - and giving thanks along the way for God's blessings. Success in building a career and a business often means more than just investing 40hrs/5 days a week. Too many fail to succeed because they get in their own way -- the willingness to do the hard work, to perform academically, to train adequately, to mature in their perspectives, and to plan their lives in ways that make good use of time too often is simply not there.

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My2SonsAreMarines 1 point ago +1 / -0

"Well Buzz has tried to tell us many times in his own way through snark and faux mockery that he DIDNT walk on the moon..."

Sauce?

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My2SonsAreMarines -1 points ago +3 / -4

Buzz Aldrin endorsed Trump in 2024 and continues in his endorsement to affirm that he walked on the moon.

"...From the skies over Korea in air-to-air combat to navigating, landing, and walking on the Moon, I appreciate this kind of pressure.... "

https://x.com/TheRealBuzz/status/1851628221013622787

As a man of deep Christian faith Buzz Aldrin performed his own communion service while in the landing capsule on the moon, in spite of the controversy raised by atheist Madeline Murray O'Hare which was defeated in US District court over the fact that the three astronauts in Apollo 8 took turns reading from Genesis 1, as they circled the moon on Christmas Eve, 1968

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buzz_Aldrin

I prefer to believe Aldrin's first person testimony over that of latter-day guttersnipes which say otherwise and who do so for their own smarmy ego driven purposes.

I had the privilege of being alive and watching the telecasts of the moon missions involving Apollo 8 and Apollo 11, et. al. in real time. It is sad to see how some born after these events have entertained misplaced seeds of doubt.

I like Candace generally. I am not with her on this one. If she wants a balanced interview, she should request one with Aldrin while she still can - I'd invite Tucker to consider doing the same.

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My2SonsAreMarines 2 points ago +2 / -0

They weren't all elderly, though some certainly were. See my account in this thread.

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My2SonsAreMarines 3 points ago +3 / -0

One of my sons and I were present at the "Million Veteran March on the Monuments" in October, 2013 during the shut-down.

The Viet Nam, WWII, and Korean War memorials were surrounded by bike racks and cordoned off. We went to the memorials anyway and rallied with speakers like Sarah Palin, Sen Ted Cruz - who led the filibuster, Congressman Dick Armey, Col. Bob Manness, Larry Klayman Jenny Beth Martin, several retired Military Generals, et. al. https://www.thepostemail.com/2013/10/13/million-veterans-march-in-washington-on-now/

We marched to the White House with the bike racks and dumped them outside the gates. See this video: https://youtu.be/XHdNtEvDfu4 After demonstrating there peacefully, the DC Police who were on the far side of the plaza brandishing bully clubs ran toward us barking commands through bull horns -- eventually dispersing our crowd.

We were all mostly comprised of Tea Party Patriots many of whom were veterans, and included members of the DC Chapter of FreeRepublic, "FReepers."

Recall Megyn Kelley launched her TV show on Fox in October 2013 during the shut down, and her first guest was Ted Cruz.

The (R)'s took the House in 2010, held on through 2012, but in part because of the budget shut down in 2013, (R)'s took the Senate in 2014.

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My2SonsAreMarines 1 point ago +1 / -0

Fine. Be territories before being admitted as states. Go through the formality. What provision in the Constitution places a time frame on how long a land mass must exist as a territory before it can be admitted as a State? If none, it could be as simple as signing a territoriality agreement immediately followed by admission into the Union as a petition for Statehood. As someone wrote elsewhere on this thread, when the US was founded and still functioning under the Articles of Confederation, there was a provision for Canada to be able to freely join the US if it so chose, and to do so without requiring further permissions from the colonies.

Your point does not materially impact the substance of what my proposal is.

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My2SonsAreMarines 1 point ago +1 / -0

In order to make this work Canadians should vote for this as a referendum and approve joining the US, Provinces on equal par with current States only with a 75% voting consensus.

The will of the Canadian people should drive this, and full allegiance to the USA should be a non-negotiable requirement. We will not put maple leaves on the US flag to substitute for stars that represent the other states.

Respective Provinces which would become States should hold the referendum in their individual Provinces. It should not be all-or-nothing prospect -- If Quebec wants to go its own way, let it. They can call themselves the nation of Quebec if they want. The USA can absorb all the rest of Provinces and territories with Canadian citizen 75% referendum as the formal construct of Canada is dissolved in favor of unity with the United States.

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