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REMINDER: Fascism and Communism are two sides of the same tyrannical, globalist controlled-opposition dynamic coin. The "Political Spectrum" is a ring, not a line. The left/right paradigm is intentionally false propaganda to keep us divided. (media.greatawakening.win) 💊 RED PILL 💊
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– M42D 10 points 1 year ago +10 / -0

Thanks for the diagram 👍 I've never regarded them as much different and that neatly visualises it.

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– MemeToDeath2021 [S] 9 points 1 year ago +9 / -0

Visualization of “controlled opposition dynamics” (a.k.a. Uniparty).


The political spectrum is a circle (not a line) with “Individual Rights” at the top and Totalitarian State with zero “Individual Rights” at the bottom. It matters not to the globalists whether you end up at the bottom by going right or left, only that you get there.


Original post with comments: https://greatawakening.win/p/17tKnclaca/the-real-world-political-spectru/c/

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– FractalizingIron 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

The political spectrum is a circle (not a line)

Not to be overly pedantic (well, to me it's relevant, anyway), but I think it's valuable to recognize that what you've presented here, OP, is a model. In other words, it's a framework that can be used to illustrate and illuminate certain aspects of the reality, i.e. "political reality".

I don't think it's accurate or correct to say "The political spectrum is...." because what you're referring to here is a model that seeks to illustrate the spectrum, but which is not the spectrum itself. Why is this important?

The MODEL and the TERRITORY - Q, and How We Think About And How We See the World https://greatawakening.win/p/19AKTdY2IH/

Consider what a spectrum is

Accuracy - How models of reality work (or don't work)

First Example - Marxism

Second example - Personal

The MORE accurately a model represents reality, the more it can foster greater awakening and expansion of thinking

So, why is it important to distinguish between a MODEL of reality and the REALITY itself?

Staying Power and Progress

Don't Equate the Model with Reality. Use the Model to Navigate Reality.


No one sews a patch of unshrunk cloth on an old garment. If he does, the new piece will pull away from the old, and a worse tear will result. And no one pours new wine into old wineskins. If he does, the wine will burst the skins, and both the wine and the wineskins will be ruined. Instead, new wine is poured into new wineskins.” Mark 2:21-22

"Free thought" is a philosophical viewpoint which holds that positions regarding truth should be formed on the basis of logic, reason, and empiricism, rather than authority, tradition, revelation, or dogma. Q3038

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– AmateurExpert 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

Here’s a fun complication for you:

What do the Lincoln Memorial, the Virginia Capitol Washington Statue, the Dime, the State of Colorado, the U.S. Senate logo, and many other items have in common?

Hint: https://files.catbox.moe/kz0ei2.jpeg

What might all of this mean? Good? Bad? Neither? Misunderstood?

My guess is that rather than a 2 dimensional circle, it’s more of a 3 dimensional object, and may be more complex than that.

What might the dimensions be in the 3D case?

I don’t think any of the 2d models solve the issue, for sure, but am neither sure that my suggestion leads to an answer, either.

The second amendment’s proper understanding is a key to starting on this riddle. What does it really mean, and what weren’t we taught about it?

What happened in the Whiskey Rebellion? How did the Militia Act of 1903 change the structure of our militaries?

I don’t believe I know the answer to all this, only that this might be a piece we’ve maybe been missing via grammar corruption.

At any rate I agree with the original premise that left/right is BS.

u/FractalizingIron u/sadness

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– AmateurExpert 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

The model I imagine might solve this has a set of 1D sliders instead of a unified model, since unified only works to 3 sliders.

Don’t get hung up on words with what I’m trying to communicate, either. I’m trying to point out that our national symbols don’t line up with our modern definitions, and suss from there what we might be overlooking as a result of words having been redefined.

Kinda like how [they] took a Nazi propagandist, made him a head of government, called it NASA, and now everything is super duper fine, but in reverse.

In short - what if the WWII definition we’ve been fed is different from the old Roman definition, and what if the American definition that caused all the symbols to be on our National monuments was once different from one or both of those definitions?

Has Trump changed anything about NG operation?

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– FractalizingIron 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Kek, AE, I just posted a post related on a meta-level to this topic. Not proposing a specific model at this juncture, but I want to highlight the point that a model is only a model and that's all it is. So, any model can be improved on, and no model can fully and perfectly encapsulate the reality. A model can only be a guide. (see summary in my comment below, full post now on the board in NEW)

2 Dimensional vs 3 dimensional - I believe you are on the right track here. If I can find the space, I'll try to outline what I think is probably an improved 3D model.

EDIT:

Step one, understanding what a model is, how it works, and why

Step two, development of a more powerful model

Step three, practical applications

EDIT EDIT:

The building blocks of an accurate model, starting with ontological frameworks on how the universe operates

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– AmateurExpert 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

To sum those long posts up …

Under the WWII definition, fascism and communism do line up pretty well.

But then…

  1. Why do communists hate “fascists”?
  2. Why does American iconography have fasces all over everything?
  3. What are we overlooking in National Guard/Militia/Militia Act 1903, Devolution, how various governments through history were overtaken by their legislative bodies?
  4. What could be hiding in the Constitution and Laws that’s enabled these things we are seeing today?
  5. Are there any ways these things might need to be considered differently moving forward?

… could communists hate “fascists” (using the older Roman meaning, here) because one little squeaky fart is somehow able to run off with all the legally established authority of the government after they’ve nearly conquered it head to toe, reestablish it somewhere else, then come back and kick their candy butts out after they’ve bankrupted their fraud-based power system, and unlike us, they’re aware of that?

https://files.catbox.moe/v77t05.jpeg

How far back might that go?

https://files.catbox.moe/1jwtqt.png

https://files.catbox.moe/owye1l.jpeg

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– TaQo 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Some have claimed that the Fasces is a powerful weapon and it's real use and function has been obscured.

From the link:

I could probably go into how some of the columns resemble this fasces device, but I will leave it right here. There is enough to think about as it is. They would not be dragging this bundle of firewood through centuries, if it did not benefit them one way or the other.

The information pertaining to this topic is scarce, and further research is necessary. As a working hypothesis I see the following:

  • The symbol of fasces is displayed by Lictor Countries. This makes USA, Russia, England, France, etc., merely a group of glorified bodyguards

  • Lictors protect whoever holds imperium, aka "power to command". This protected country (family, group, etc) does not display fasces

  • Is Vatican the one with "power to command"?

  • There could be two types of fasces weapons: electric and sound based

  • We can not fully comprehend the power of this weapon (if it even existed).

  • We observe various sizes of the fasces, which suggests that there had to be a reason for it.

  • Could various sizes (length/thickness) be related to power difference?

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– AmateurExpert 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

I’ve wondered on some of those options, some of them are new to me (“There could be two types of fasces weapons: electric and sound based”? Interesting!)

So is the whole symbol about secretly infiltrating the power of Rome into these borders, to impose it on us and have us be lictors of a hidden hand, which is definitely possible and would suck. That be the “controlled op” case u/FractalizingIron mentioned, with nothing beneficial to be gleaned, and hopefully the power of the pyramid is about to be broken.

Would explain the whole normie meme of “men are always thinking about Rome” thing that was going around a while back.

What I’m more curious about is if there is an option hidden in the symbolism and history that might be good for the people - if there is there some mechanical comm in the construction of the symbol for us - or should we only see “symbolism will be their downfall”?

Going by your list, there’s a lot of the former. Which, bleh. We’ve been played longer than thought and harder than thought in that option. The whole slider part of what I was writing would still be relevant.

I do prefer to think that some portion of the federal government was derived from righteous inclination with guidance from the Bible, which was open on the table as they wrote the Constitution, and so any use of the symbol would be someone trying to tell us something that they can’t say in the open, but it’s also possible that those symbols were put there after we got captured to brag to us that we’re subjects now.

This is also why I keep saying I don’t have any conclusions on this. There’s too much in it that I don’t know. Just trying to do a deeper dig into what’s going on with all of it. The list you presented is definitely a good one to have in the consideration.

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– TaQo 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Well... one symbol that stood out to me in that linked page was the pic with multiple fascii, with phrigian cap hats on every other one, as if to be a display of victory over a conquered people, like putting their heads on pikes ...

I'll call your attention to this symbolism as it relates to early USA and "Lady Liberty" as well as other iconic figures shown in 1850-1920 expositions and world fairs...Be forewarned that digging will probably yield more questions than answers as our true history has been severely molested...

For those who don't know, THIS is what Chicago used to look like.... now pick your jaw up off the ground

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– AmateurExpert 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

That Medici armor is some heavy duty demonic stuff going on.

Wow.

https://files.catbox.moe/6b3h8f.png

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– AmateurExpert 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Looked right past that link. This rabbit hole is something else…

The fair continued until October 30, 1893. In addition to recognizing the 400th anniversary of the discovery of the New World, the fair served to show the world that Chicago had risen from the ashes of the Great Chicago Fire, which had destroyed much of the city in 1871.

Uh.

The original at the Exposition had a Phrygian cap on top of the staff. It was only partly gilded (no gold on the exposed skin of the head, neck and arms), but the replica is completely gilded.

What’s at the top of the staff on the replica? Not a phyrigian cap, for sure.

https://files.catbox.moe/0zuqpa.png

That cap being on a pike at the 1893 world fair central statue is certainly noteworthy, and [they] definitely seem to have not liked that.

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– AmateurExpert 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

BERT… ? and … a pine cone.

https://files.catbox.moe/akwub8.jpeg

The second one I know. Mother f…

WHAT HAPPENED, HERE?

https://files.catbox.moe/9yby60.jpeg

!!!!

They Lahaina’ed Chicago!! Cow and lantern my ass!!!

Some of the stuff with “free energy” involves buildings having receivers on them for it. Could the phyrigian caps be some way of them hijacking that energy for personal use?

That whole article you pasted is wild. Along the lines of what I’m trying to get at though. “Expand your thinking”, though if there’s anything to the article, I wasn’t expanding mine enough either.

Funny they mentioned Jericho, and Trump has a “replica” of the Ark of the Covenant.

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– AmateurExpert 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

That + I suspect that part of the Mussolini / “Italian Fascism” schtick is a psyop to keep us from noticing an important aspect of our heritage.

I don’t precisely know what it is, but when I squint, it definitely looks like there’s something there.

“Who do communists hate more than anybody? Other than God, that is.”

Also, even if I’m right that we are missing something about how things used to work, would that thing still have value moving forward, and if so how?

I’m not fully even sure what all questions to ask about this because I’m not 100% sure what information we’re all missing.

That 1903 act is almost certainly much more important than we know, and may have helped facilitate WWI. How were the militaries structured before and after it? Who reported to who? How were things organized legally?

… did anything structural previously change between Jackson and 1903, specifically around 1855-1875? Hmmm…

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– FractalizingIron 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

“Who do communists hate more than anybody? Other than God, that is.”

As in, Antifa?

Controlled Oppo?

u/#q4635

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– AmateurExpert 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Yep!

Communists hate “fascists. I don’t know why.

Anti “faschistische”

https://files.catbox.moe/p7pq29.jpeg

What’s Washington leaning on?

What did this mean in Rome?

What might it have meant here?

What might it mean here in reality, today?

Is that different than the whole theory about what was just done under 13961?

What all happened with the Rubicon event? Was any of this similar to the Glorious Revolution and Treaty of Union in England/GB? Did Parliament or the Senate or someone else usurp the government? What about when the President of Philippines devolved that government and fled to the US under, I suppose, protection of MacArthur, before being reinstated later (“I shall return”)?

Some more relevant history: https://greatawakening.win/p/199hulwk4Z/what-is-treason/

I don’t know how much of this I have right or wrong, but dangit, there is something hiding here.

And where does the Holy Roman Empire/Prussia play into all of this?

It’s all friggin connected somehow.

Even after following Prussiagate, I don’t know enough about it or the other competing kings of the time - Napoleon, e.g. or where they lined up following Florence.

Did find an interesting book, but haven’t had time to read it yet.

https://archive.org/details/ageofnapoleonh11dura from https://archive.org/details/TheStoryOfCivilizationcomplete

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– AmateurExpert 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

TaQo totally hijacked “reality” above this. Recommend a read.

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– Maroon 8 points 1 year ago +8 / -0

I'm so fucking tired of these. The only reason they're the "SaMe At BoTh EnDs" is because the quintessential right-wing boogie man was a fucking lefty socialist. His only difference was that he was nationalist rather than globalist.

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– MemeToDeath2021 [S] 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Correct. Right/Left is fake to begin with, but that is a second level down. Collective rights = privileges, not rights. Nationalist figurehead controlled by a Corporate Oligopoly can appear to be "right wing", but it is really also socialist. Globalist Communist "One World Gov't" turns out to look nearly identical to the "Extreme Right" when they both want to murder you and your family if you do not comply.

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– winn 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Right / Left is a French Revolution construct but I have just been running with it and using it in terms of what most people THINK it means (beyond the false layer of communism vs fascism that's been superimposed on top of it in recent decades). See my linked post

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– MemeToDeath2021 [S] 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

This is good stuff. Sometimes operating in the enemy battlespace and using their terms can be useful as a model to understand what is happening. Use of the enemy terms and operating in their battlespace does not make us "sympathizers" as is wrongly interpreted. We must breakdown what the enemy is doing in order to counter. This is just logical.

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– MemeToDeath2021 [S] 7 points 1 year ago +7 / -0

Soviet/Communist history and paradigm smash by u/Sadness detailing the Soviet pivot WITHIN Communism to permanently destroy/replace God.


OK since you asked, re. paradigm smashing:

One of the Early Soviet doctirnes was to eliminate religion altogether. The idea was that the state would replace it with science, technology, higher education, and use any moral fervor to make people more patriotic for the communist ideal. This back-fired, because people did not want to give up their precious (gold-leaf embossed) icons, customs, and of course there were clandestine meetings with similarly-minded folks - i.e. their neighbours and relations.

Anyway with the fall of the Soviets, there were several countries that reclaimed their religion, because it was deemed necessary. And guess what? It was very popular. So, even as Westerners were flooding their countries with Big Macs and Jeans, and rainbow dildoes, in a chaotic world of collapse, people realized they needed a compass. And this is at the core of my argument. It means the leaders now openly say that they are Religious. They reject anything that is anti-human that they see coming from the West. And they have good reason to be suspicous of the West, since hundreds of years, at the cost of millions of lives. For example, Larry Johnson mentioned very recently, that St Petersburg, where he is right now, lost 800 000 people because Hitler starved them in a siege. But the ugly raids from the West stretch back hundreds of years, as Putin pointed out to Tucker. So, that memory induces self-preservation.

Now compare this with Trump, and Q, and the Great Awakening which, in the past would be called a Revival. USA has seen revivals before. But I'll warrant this revival will be a big one, because that MArxist/Maoist idea of killing religion? Well that was done softly in the West, from the top down (Yeah I remember those edgy guys wearing berets with stars on them at university). And now there will be a popular backlash. People refuse to accept atheism, or agnosticism or whatever they prefer to label themselves as. (It is foolish to debate them because they DO have a religion). Anyway, It is wrong to kill innocents. It says Thou shalt not kill for a reason - and that first principles approach, without all the medieval stuff of indoctrination and coercion, has worked for thousands of years. When an atheist starts talking they come across as stupid and selfish.

But there is that other thread: Even as they rejected the church, Soviet Communism modelled itself on Christianity. There's that meme that declares that Jesus was the original communist. That is because the Soviets were trying to replace Christianity, so they had to use the 'useful' bits, such as workers being housed; very cheap medical care, bomb shelters underneath low-rise buildings, high employment, clean streets and advancement opportunities through the military-related industries etc. And guess what? Patriotism is much higher now. In the end the country found it better to just have religion back with all it's pomp and rituals.

In Russia there are now intellectuals who espouse communism, for all the good things it brought to a feudal society - and those that despise it for its repressions. But there is no argument about the benefit of people going to church. The tables have turned and the paradigm has been smashed.

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– Sadness 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

That was a good read, and I agree with all that you say. So thanks for that!

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– Fatality 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

i have been telling people this for ages. get to the center its where the best people are.

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– PandaMoon17 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Me too... Here is a short and very informative video that really compliments the chart in this post. https://youtu.be/GGk6LG0GA4A

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– CIngone 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

It's still a straight line, only Fascism is also to the left right alongside communism.

Making it a circle or to put fascism on the right ignores the fact it is a form of extreme socialism while to the right extreme would be anarchy, or absolute absence of any government

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– FractalizingIron 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Actually, "it" is a model, and that's all. What is offered by OP is one MODEL that can be (and is) used to illustrate certain dimensions of the reality, to gain PERSPECTIVE and insight.

Is there a model that perfectly and completely covers all aspects and dimensions? Hmmmm...

One model is, as you cite, to create a LINEAR framework (2D) with Extreme Control Governance at one end and Zero control / governance at the other. That's certainly one dimension to be considered. But it's not the only one, imo.

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– winn 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

https://greatawakening.win/p/199OB9Bf0w/-the-true-political-spectrum---n/c/ (;

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– Dogeagle 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

I use the term marxo-fascist a lot. This is why.

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– queue-anon 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

Do u have a larger image

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– FractalizingIron 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

Slightly better....

https://slideplayer.com/14558174/90/images/slide_2.jpg

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– queue-anon 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

ty

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– My2SonsAreMarines 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

A far better rendering. Fascism is not "far right" as depicted in the OP's chart

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– FractalizingIron 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Fascism is not "far right" as depicted in the OP's chart

That really all depends on what model or framework you are relying on. But if you are talking about the definition of what "fascism" is, then it will depend on the definition.

What I think we can be sure of is, what we've been told, and sold, as 'fascism' is in reality not what it is.

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– Klompo 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

I've always called them Burners, because in the end, they all gonna end up in the same place. Talk about Collectivism ...

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– Mister_Winston 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Fascism has never been right wing. Find me a fascist who believes in small government.

Fascism is just socialism that has outsourced the means of production to corporations. This is called State Corporatism.

Source: Benito Mussolini, the father of fascism and lifelong socialist.

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– MemeToDeath2021 [S] 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Correct. The "right wing" label has intentionally been obfuscated to confuse everyone. It really is "Individual rights" (natural rights from God) vs "Collective rights" (privileges provided by either a Corporation or the Gov't). Take away rights and replace with privileges. This is the whole purpose of the left/right fake paradigm.

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– TaQo 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Important point about it simply being a model...

The map ISN'T the territory.

I'd like to see that infographic completely blank. No government.

Get off my lawn, Fk off way the fk over there and leave me alone.

The 10 commandments are a good guide for those that have forgotten how to act.

Many of us don't need or want to be governed... Your authority is no greater than mine. I'm just going along with this idea because my guns aren't bigger.

I'm all for the party of, Get off me, leave me the fk alone and I'm not part of your little scene or grift you got going on.

The supposition that we NEED to be governed is dumb.

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– MemeToDeath2021 [S] 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Important part of "Government is a necessary evil" is NOT "necessary", it is "evil" for the very reasons you cite.

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– winn 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Yep, which is why the few Nazi-lovers and Crusader Pepes who shill on this board are so retarded. They'll rail on and on about Jews and Communism but see no problem with Fascism, whether secular, religious, or a hybrid of the two.

If you prefer a line format: https://greatawakening.win/p/199OB9Bf0w/-the-true-political-spectrum---n/c/

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– MemeToDeath2021 [S] 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Yes, educate. We must defuse the "Nazi pivot" now. I believe that is our mission beyond Q besides disclosing all the hidden tech and health info in a usable way.


Globalist plans appear to be Weimar-Nazi pivot capped by Project BlueBEAM.

Battle 1: Communist infiltration and takeover - CONCLUDING

Battle 2: Nazi sleepers that infiltrated prior to Commies attempting "Nazi pivot" with nationalist figurehead- JUST STARTING

Battle 3?: Rogue Technocracy actors, possibly in alliance with alien entity (AI replaces God psyop).

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– pby1000 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Americanism opposes both communism and fascism.

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– Mountaingale 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Communism and Fascism are oligarchies. It's the oligarchs attacking the rest of us. And they're in cahoots.

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– MemeToDeath2021 [S] 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Correct. This is "normie layer" model to explain what we are currently being told with current definitions (even if they are really wrong). You have to go one layer deeper to understand that Socialism via Corporation and Socialism via Gov't are really the same thing as you are saying. This seems to be too complex for most people to understand.

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– stevethefish76 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Got a higher-def picture of this? The small words become pixelated when I blow them up to try to read them.

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– Revodude 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Fascism is a left ideology. Hardly a spit of difference with communism. Democrats run the fascist playbook all the time. There are really two lines that define the left and right. Freedom is one of the lines. Libertarians are farther right than conservatives. Not that it is the correct location. The second line is religion. Christians on the right and devil worshipers on the left.

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– Mister_Winston 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

100% this.

You don't go further right toward small government then somehow arrive at big government fascist tyranny.

Hitler admitted (I believe in Mein Kompf) that he had no ideological problem with communists. His problem was they were competition.

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– MemeToDeath2021 [S] 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Correct. "Ring model" represents the "normie layers" using current definitions and current systems which are not really correct. Another layer down, one could argue it is a straight line, but going from the top to the bottom with Individual rights at the top and Collective privileges at the bottom with Fascism and Communism the same non natural law "privilege" end point.

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– winn 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

It does get muddy! I think looking at the political spectrum in terms of governmental power vs individual people's power is the only way to ever get a clear picture of it.

If x moves more power into the government, x moves more power out of the individual.

Eventually, whether it take a Communist or Fascist track, the people end up as subjects to the government, which is completely opposite of what America was set up to be with the government being subject to the people. The only way the people can subjugate the government after this point is to choose violence, with the exception of 5GW, patriots in high places, and The Plan (;

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– AmateurExpert 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Oh nice, there’s a word for that!

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