Is it just me or could Pence be a part of the plan. Even Judas knew it was his role to betray Christ, and Christ sent him off to fulfill his role.
Note POTUS Jan 6th speech he stated:
*All Vice President Pence has to do is send it back to the states to recertify and we become president and you are the happiest people. And I actually -- I just spoke to Mike.I said, "Mike, that doesn't take courage. What takes courage is to do nothing, that takes courage." *
For biblical reference:
"...Then said Jesus unto him, That thou doest, do quickly. Now no man at the table knew for what intent he spake this unto him." -John 13:27-28
Also, Pence's memo states that he believes there was fraud.
He must have known he was supposed to be Judas for the show to roll as planned. Nobody wants to play Judas. But without Judas none would see the evils, fear, and desperation of the priest (elites).
This is what it means to "Trust the Plan"
Good analysis. If Pence was a true deep stater, it seems like he would be on board for the 25th.
YESS!! There’s a reason he’s telling Pelosi to get fucked, essentially. He knows what’s coming, he knows it’s unavoidable. He knows he can go down alone, or take the whole corrupt establishment of globalists with him.
You also get used to things going differently then you expected, cuz the enemy is watching Q too!
Pence is dirty maybe he survives by helping, but he is dirty.
Actually if you want a man under cover - you need to create a reason for the enemy to trust him to allow him to infiltrate.
I’m not saying he is innocent or guilty.
But I am saying there is a possibility he is still on team trump - and it’s part of the plan for Lin wood to call him out as a traitor, so that the left can accept him as one of their own.
Karen Pence got a letter during the Bush Sr funeral. Could this tie that in?
I keep seeing people reference the letters received at that funeral. I'm pretty new to all of this - could you elaborate on the speculated significance?
Nobody really knows what was in the letters. Watch the video and and you can see by the looks of most of their faces that it was something quite shocking.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oY5AvyayUw4
Love that last shot of the signed note. I had not seen that before. Any idea where it came from? Has it been out on the research sites, or has it recently appeared?
Welcome. :)
Here's a video of the funeral with the letters being received: https://youtu.be/37grD8evhk4
If I wanted a hyper-loyal, self effacing and steadfast person to be my undercover ally, Mike Pence definitely seems like the one I'd want. Spread some rumors, get him called out and get muddied up.. I mean think about it this way... the "self righteous, smug Christian guy" is the perfect fall guy to fall from grace and backstab the political American Jesus. The left would eat that up for breakfast lunch and dinner. They'd give 3 million pieces of silver to make that happen. And Pence is reserved and controlled enough to pull it off.
I really do wonder if he's gone undercover.
I mean everyone has their demons they fight, and I'm sure working with Trump can be extremely hard at times so perhaps he's faking it all, but I don't know. He has consistently heaped sincere and unprompted volumes of praise on Trump over the years. I can't see Pence not having talked about his concerns months ago, not springing on Trump last minute. It feels like a chirade.
Please pray for Mike Pence. If me wanting you to be right - would make you right in this - then you would be right.
I'm also having a hard time dismissing our VP as a traitor. So, let me join you in those prayers for Mike.
Agreed, I like this option better but am willing to accept facts if they are given.
Well your undercover trusted at this level.would have to be knowingly a bad guy by the other side or they would see right through it. I have no franchise in any of theze.people if they are traitors. Take them all Way. Anything you think you like about them is a manufactures lie for you to get emotional over. Detach from the touchy Feely shit because had trump not been elected, pence would have gone right along with all.of your deaths under their plan. Thi k about it.becore you decide to become attached to these fucksrs.
Pence is s pedo in a suit. He isn't of value to the nation or society if he is really one of them. I don't care what happens to these traitors S long as they never see freedom again. They stole ours and thought, so fucking what. They designed their plan to kill as many of us as possible before we could stop them. Children of Israel never realize they. Could ha e wasted the Egyptians any time they wanted.
Idk are you talking about pence? I’d like to see some sources.
Tory Smith. Youtube
Honestly - I don't know what to make of it all. Personally I think Pence is dirty, and maybe made a deal to save his life. Hopefully it will all come out in the end.
As I said above.....Maybe that was part of Pence's Treason Plea Deal, life at Gitmo instead of the firing squad.
Pence never had the ankle boots. I think when they got the golden ticket, they had a choice to confess everything right away and they would get much better deal than life in prison (maybe even keep their legacy intact).
Pence probably only one who took it. I mean, there must be a reason why its called Golden Ticket.
This has been my theory. Pence was deep state imposed on Trump and Trump + Q team offered the deal of a lifetime to Pence to play ball.
Ankle boot? Hr is surrounded by SS ain't going nowhere
He can't 25th solo.
Right, needs the majority of the 15 cabinet/department heads. Several of which are Temps that Trump put in. and the Turtle's wife resigned. Very little chance. Its just a faster process than Impeachment, and the Senate is on recess I heard until the 19th.
My understanding is that with Pence + a majority of the cabinet, yes. I could be wrong.
That's basically correct. 25th amendment.
its if the VP + majority of the Presidents cabinet members agree to temporarily relieve the President due to incapacitation. Not impeach
It was added due to President becoming incapacitated or unfit for office, such as Woodrow Wilson having a stroke and his wife running the place while keeping that fact secret, or Reagan's Alzheimer's.
Not impeach. Deem not fit for office for whatever reason they invent.
exactly
Agreed
This is absolutely bonkers. The footage of him receiving that coin after is just chilling with this context.
That’s exactly what my friend and I were talking about. Previous exchanges like this were more secretive and yet here is Pence opening his palm, and flipping the coin knowing that there are cameras around. I’m still on the fence with Pence, but we’ll see if he was part of the plan.
Pence knows he's on camera and is letting the world see
About as scary as the Senator behind McConnel giving him Masonic hand signals when he turned around during his speech on 1/6. You see who the Cabal has control of....
Yup. That was creepy.
Any source on that?
Search “Pence coin”
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GvelGwocYRQ#dialog
If you watch McConnell's speech of 1/6 the Senator on the left behind him is the one giving the Masonic signals when McConnell turns around.
I remember seeing it, but the search function doesn’t work here. You got a link to red pill with?
Kind of diamond-shaped. Just like Angela Merkel always displays...
https://images.app.goo.gl/jVoZfwD4m6JvdFkZ8
The video feed I watched showed McConnel’s hands and I saw that he kept doing the Masonic hand signs.
That is what started this train of thought
Link to coin footage?
It's a coin for "military courage".
as someone reminded me. Snape killed Dumbledore
Pence SYMBOLICALLY kills Trump (presidency)
well....... isn't that what a good movie director does? UNEXPECTED
Are we in a virtual reality M Night Shyamalan movie right now?
we are in many movies at the same time
dont know that one tho
He's a great director, the one who did 'Signs' starring Mel Gibson.
Yes on virtual reality.. has also been called an illusion/Maya , hologram. Checkout Tom campbell: My big TOE (theory of everything)
Pence is a good actor if he is guilty.
The Snape comp isn’t bad, but really it was Wormtail (Peter Pettigrew) who was undoubtedly the Judas character in HP. Got a silver hand for betraying the Potters/saving Voldemort. Then has a moment of grace (in the books) only to have the hand strangle him to death.
Well... it is also a possibility.
Yes, I remember reading that moment. Pence's coin/Wormtails hand
Regardless of what happens, most likely his political career is over.
I’ve been saying this exact thing. That comment during his speech really stuck out to me. He said it at least two times. “It will take courage to do nothing.” I believe Pence was playing his role. Maybe not, but that comment means something.
I thought the same thing about Trump's "courage" line. I'm also wondering about when SOD Miller thanked Pence for assisting in the "most complex military operation in history." Was he talking about the vaccine rollout or is he involved in this?
I'm not sold on the vaccines. Why would vaccine distribution be the "most complex military operation in history"? Really? That makes zero sense to me. "most complex military operation in history" and it doesn't involve enemies? Just vaccines? I don't believe it.
It’s all logistics. How difficult could it honestly be? There’s so much bigger meaning behind that quote. And I believe Pence played along, knowing that his fate was unavoidable. He could play ball or not, but the consequences were unavoidable.
the only logical thing I can think of is that the vaccine has to apparently be kept at low temperatures, so maybe? But yes I tend to agree.
TIL ice packs are the most complex and difficult thing for the military
haha I didn't say I believed that. i was implying maybe it involves complex refrigeration outfitting or procedures, but its definitely more logical than saying its "complex" for the military to fly and distribute shit, considering its one of its core functions.
It does not. I’m a medical technologist. Blood products are some of the most heavily regulated temp controlled bio products out there. We literally slap a 10 cent sticker on it that changes color if it gets too warm. And to keep it cold, we used, you guessed it, ice packs. I’m not fuckin buying it that some stupid vaccine requires more “complex refrigeration techniques” than that. (Sorry I’m not yelling at you lol. This is just my area of expertise and I’m sick and tired of the media saying retarded shit all the time)
Im gonna say TIL now but not sarcastically.. Lol thanks
So out of curiosity, I went to the drops. Courage was mentioned twice. In fact, it was thr same Raegan drop https://qposts.online/post/2431 and https://qposts.online/post/2362
Food for thought, I'm going to be thinking on it.
This was a thought i had. Either way, I'm not so sure. Maybe it's a good thing we don't know for sure, because the other side has to guess as well, and that makes them uneasy not knowing.
I don't think we are ment to know. As it was with Judas
I think they'd have found a way to kill Trump first if they didn't think Pence was on board. It was only after they voted on the electors that he started ghosting them.
yes it's like a high IQ spy novel except it's nonfiction and real-time
So he could make her wait 25 minutes. 25th. It's symbolic.
Trump knows the answer to that question.
Voluntary or not, I think Pence had a role to play. The fact that he is given a golden thing and supposedly "betrays" Trump but refuses to participate in using the 25th amendment suggests that he has done his part and doesn't want to cooperate anymore.
Maybe that was part of Pence's Treason Plea Deal, life at Gitmo instead of the firing squad.
i want to believe Pence was a double agent or turned on the cabal, but plea deal sounds likely
same would make me feel a lot better than if he was just a simp or worse...
Where's the evidence regarding Pence? We've seen Hunter's evidence (at least as much as we dared to look at) but I haven't seen anything serious about Pence, aside from Lin Wood and Linsey Powell who could be playing a great game.
This is a detailed read....
https://steemit.com/treason/@artistiquejewels/the-paul-ryan-mike-pence-assassination-coup-email-chain-says-it-all-why-would-they-risk-hijacking-a-national-presidential
If you have heard about the "Elastic Defense", its where you keep strategically retreating to let the enemy advance into a careful area where you can surround them and attack them with full force.
This is what Trump is doing. He is slowly removing options, and providing bad options at each point.
One thing we have to remember is that Deep State will never allow any process to come to fruition that guarantees Trump's win. If Pence did send it back, then it would open too many options for the deep state. However with what Pence did, there was only one option - Congress to commit Treason en'masse and tehn try to remove Trump to save their skin.
And thats exactly where Trump wanted them.
He's Trump's Arthur Slugworth. They all failed his test.
Exactly
If Pence is in on it, then Lindsey is in on it, and possibly McConnell + Cruz as well.
I don't think Pence was in on it. If he was, Trump wouldn't have felt the need to be prophetic. He wasn't speaking to Pence at the rally, Pence had already released his statement.
It could honestly all be a great show to confuse their enemies. The rumors, the call-outs, everything. We'll see soon I suspect.
it was, but they may have physically talked prior
But then why did Trump immediately say
"Pence didn't have the COURAGE to do the right thing"?
Part of the show?
What should have he said??? "Pence didn't have the COURAGE to do the wrong thing"??? gtfo...
did he repent? could be
It could very well be, but he wouldn't be the first Christian to be branded something that wasn't true. At this point I need more than hear-say.
I want to believe this especially after the Chris Miller video. Maybe Lin is helping play the part here to convince the Dems that they’re in better shape than they are. I guess the next tidbit will come out when Pence reacts to - or ignores - Piglosi’s request on the 25thA.
No Pence isn't part of the plan. He just doesn't want to destroy the GOP by removing Trump. He thinks we will come back eventually is my take.
I believe pence is a traitor and its why he betrayed Flynn early on causing havoc in the administration and leading to an attempt to remove the president at least indirectly.
There was no need at all for Pence to betray the president as part of the plan. Trump has everything set up to take down his enemies. He already knows who the traitors are all he has to do is walk the walk because the time for talk is over.
right, it was the last last chance to do the right thing, but we all kinda knew they wouldnt type thing. The moves have been getting made since election. Even the cabinet moves to stave off any 25th amendment BS.
And Judas committed suicide, too.
The same pill that "No Name" took??
Probably.
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No Name is McCain the stain
I’ve wondered the same thing tbh, Pence seems based but so did the wolf in sheep’s clothing. I’m just waiting for the plan to finish. Hold the line!!
Also, Pence may be deep state, even if it was his role. He could have made a deal. Instead of death, he will live the rest of his life as a traitor in everyone’s eyes, making his life hell. In this case, we will never know the real truth.
Hows about we dont compare trump to christ for starters. Is he enacting the will of god? I believe the holyspirit is moving in revealing the whore of babylon which will be defeated allowing the antichrist to rise and put into place the beast system of government.
revelation 17 15-18
15 And he said to me, ‘The waters that you saw, where the whore is seated, are peoples and multitudes and nations and languages. 16And the ten horns that you saw, they and the beast will hate the whore; they will make her desolate and naked; they will devour her flesh and burn her up with fire. 17For God has put it into their hearts to carry out his purpose by agreeing to give their kingdom to the beast, until the words of God will be fulfilled. 18The woman you saw is the great city that rules over the kings of the earth.’
So god may be working through trump but it does not necessarily mean that trump is godly, this would imply america will usher in the beast system after we destroy the whore. use spiritual discernment people, don't fall for the coming mark.
No comparison of President Trump to Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ intended. Just a reference to the biblical connection to the plan. The Bible is a key reference to many drops..
I gotcha, just a slippery slope for me personally.
This is very fair. I have found myself in confession several times in the past months, for placing politics over God.
It is a dangerous slope to tread on. We must remember that no matter how confident we are in this plan, God's plan is perfect and infallible. God is greater than anything on this earth. We must place our trust and faith in God first, and earthly leaders second.
It is not a sin to have faith in Q's plan, and it is not a sin to fight for the truth and for what is right. However we must remember that God is in charge, and he deserves our praise and thanks before anything else.
Thats why i rejoice in the fact that the holy spirit is working and revealing these things, gods will is at work regardless.
Its a common story path in the Bible. David's story arc is very similar to Christ's. As the author of history, I guess God goes with the George Lucas approach sometimes, or he just likes the comeback, redemption and using the least expected person to serve his aims (Gideon and just 300, Samson, Saul, etc)
Jesus doesn't need a gun.
I agree with you there.
Ya know....after I look back on Pence's political career and associations, I see nothing that concerns me. And believe me when I say after all my years of research, I have become very good at seeing the red flags. Pence has an excellent conservative record. His policies while governor reflect his public stance. His religion isn't just a cover. He walks his talk. And I don't see any memberships/entanglements with globalist organizations, etc. Not even a whiff of scandal, corruption, in his past, etc. Family seems solid as a rock.
My first reaction when Lin Wood accused him of being a pedophile (along with others that really are pedophiles) was that it was intentional disinformation and I posted that on TheDonald.win. The purpose being that Trump could maintain plausible deniability of the words coming from Lin Wood as crazy while really "threatening" the cabal to release the info if they didn't do the right thing. Maybe the reason isn't correct with hindsight, but I still can't shake Pence playing his role as the Judas goat. Luring them in for the kill shot.
If I don't believe that, then I'd have no hope and be in mourning like a family member just died or something.
nah dont. Another alternative is that Pence is actually a simp or piece of shit. Trump made a lot of cabinet and other interesting moves after the election. Even if he was a Judas Goat or not, surely they wouldnt put all their eggs in one basket.
I agree
Using that logic, Trump was responsible for Covid then...lol.
Kind of hard to believe when Ryan and Pence wanted to be he candidates for Pres/VP in 2016. They were screwed with the results for Trump after the first debate and Ryan tanked. They had to put Plan "B" in action. Keep your friends close and your enemies closer was Trumps plan.
Trump did not pick Pence. GOP let Trump on the ticket only if Pence came along.
Same with Reagan-Bush
I don't think there will be any reveal....
for the plan to unfold, Pence had to be Judas, which took courage as his reputation and trust is tarnished by those who were devoted to him
he also put Pelosi on hold for 25mins before hanging up
The 25 min hold was a hilarious story.
Does anyone know if Pelosi has been able to reach Pence yet? Has anyone even heard from him since the 6th? Did he go into hiding? Or was he FORCED into hiding? I'm not sure if he's part of the plan or truly was Brutus to Trump's Caesar. Time will tell.
I don't know. He ended his political career with that move. He could not even be elected dog catcher in an Indiana county now. Hell of a sacrifice.
He most certainly ended his political career. Sometimes doing the right thing comes with a great sacrifice, and it takes a very strong man to do so.
Not saying that Pence necessarily did the right thing, and not claiming to know anything more than my own speculation - but we will know soon enough.
I felt perhaps pence had saught redemption through pence. Perhaps earlier in his life he was compromised, there trusted by the elite left, but was willing to be Judas for redemption with trump and the military... Was just a fleeting thought...
I really think Pence was pulling a stunt with Trump. Acting.
Took some notes from here:
https://youtu.be/g8-tCrgiIC8?t=877
They did it before with Sessions.
Trump attacked the attorney general because he recused himself from russiagate, and rosenstein took over. robert mahler the whole gang, all corrupt. Sessions and Trump acted out a feud, and the dumb dems embraced Sessions and said they'd impeach Trump over it.
In secret, Sessions assigned John Huber in Utah to convene grand juries against these people. He assigned John Durham in Mass. to do same also.
They're trying to nail the flippers.
And then Trump went so far as to campaign against Sessions when he tried to run for the Senate after his dismissal.
Judas actually betrayed Christ, not he "knew it was his role to betray Christ."
True, because he never committed himself to Christ.
Note: this comment is not related to the title just an agreement.
Yeah but that isn't the quote from the speech
Who knows
Hypothetically, let's say Pence did object and it went to congress to be voted on by state delegation. Do you really think congress would of elected Trump? Beyond that, it would of made the fraud in the Electoral vote moot and whoever they did select legit under the constitution.
Not saying Pence did the right thing for the right reasons, but it would not of helped had he done what many wanted him to do.
YES, they would have elected Trump.
Correct, the easy way doesn't show them.
that is really true, and explains what to me is panic from Pelosi's recent antics, rather than an overtly unconstitutional power flex