I think they are actively trying to incite a civil war / color revolution and that is one reason it had to play out like this. From day 1 they were expecting him to stop the witch hunt so they could claim obstruction and they have bounced from one ill planned scheme to the next.
Trump is constantly rope a doping them because they are fighting against the straw man they have built up that bears no resemblance to Trump himself. He is denying them that color revolution.
Don't know bit if trump brings the proof of cheating tt the senate then what? Dems say Insurrectuon was promoting the lie of cheating so that would be t he defense if they care to go through the motions.
Roberts refused to take part in it which is a requirement of the trial. It's extremely unconstitutional on various instances from the initial start at the house and to where we are now.
If he's to be tried as a holder of public office, it's only logical that Roberts must preside. Because POTUS Trump is on trial, not an ordinary citizen Trump. Even if his term expired.
If he's to be tried as a citizen, the impeachment can't proceed, because only a holder of public office can be impeached.
In practice:
Dems will dress up as clowns, honk around and make their own rules, and if the SCOTUS is called upon, they'll make up some reason to refuse to get involved.
I am trying to imagine Trump putting everything into place and getting this plan rolling, including putting all the safeguards so he can hand the reins to Biden without worrying about him crashing the plan somehow, and yet forgot to take care of one pesky detail that is impeachment.
I cannot foresee exactly how this is going to play out, but I can confidently say this is a scenario that has been gamed out.
The Senate aren’t “directors of a corporation”; they can of course try impeachments, though this one is complicated slightly by Trump being out of office.
If the plan is still active, and congress ate just actors playing a part, what better way to show the public evidence of the election fraud than a show trial under the false pretense of an impeachment? All eyes will be on it next week.
Devils advocate: its so he loses his lifelong SS detail privilege and they can bump him off in revenge for standing up to them and throwing off HRC's WW3 plans.
I think this all has to do with the term "former" because msm's spin on it is claiming after the declass was released that "former" DOJ should not be able to be prosecuted because they no longer hold that title.
So can we impeach Obama post presidency as well? Seems we can! Also not sure how the fuck they can impeach someone who is no longer president. That's like firing someone who already quit and has a new job. I believe he stepped down and the military is in full control. Lets see how this sham plays out. Even dems are like why the fuck are you wasting our money on this??
How is Trump still President? Can you explain how that works? What part of the federal government is working with him and recognizing him as the current President?
If courts wanted to do something, they would have acted. Its pretty much impossible to remove a President even after the process already played out. They could Article 25 him, but that's never going to happen with Democrat-controlled Senate/House....hell, wouldn't happen with Republicans either since most of them are in on the steal.
Basically, Biden is here to stay unfortunately. We need to focus on fixing voter fraud and then getting a MAGA type re-elected.
So far there's been dozens and dozens of lawsuits that have been dismissed. What do you think is going to happen with a few more lawsuits? They'll get dismissed or shut down.
Its not like suddenly a case will be taken up and they'll remove Biden and give us Trump back. It doesn't work that way.
It needed to happen before crucial dates such as Dec 14th, Jan 6th, and Jan 20th.
Has Q said this himself? I haven't seen anything. Also just having a single person recognize him as the current President within the federal government doesn't give him any real legitimate power unfortunately.
There are few simple explanation of why Trump is still president.
The most basic is that the Miltiary stepped in because no other branch did, and disqualified Biden because of election fraud. Once disqualified the election would go to the remaining legal candidate with the most electoral votes.
The other way, similarly, is martial law was declared, the entire election was voided and Trump simply remains in office until Martial Law is lifted and real elections can be had.
Wake up the public to the voter fraud by showing the uniparty traitors are well aware that they can’t beat President Trump in a future election so they have to bar him from running again somehow.
wake up the public to fraud knowing that the election will be overturned from one of the 30 election fraud cases still pending out of the 80 filed originally and they don’t want a rope put around their necks by President Trump.
Either way. No one can stop what’s coming.
Where we go one we go all. The best is yet to come.
I've said for years that what Trump wants is the BIG spotlight - the trial of the century - all eyes locked on him as he reveals their treachery and the Q plan. I thought it would happen during first peachmint. 2nd Peachment seems better, don't you think?
Anyone else keep getting that odd feeling like the Dems are like hostages chained inside a rollercoaster car at the amusement park in a horror-show, trying to put on a smile and act like they are in control, but in reality can't get off?
I'm not sure if it's the quiet desperation, the nervousness/shifting-body-language, or something else I'm picking up on ....
not true. Trump is no longer the president of the corporation. the republic has not been restored yet, thus Trump is not the next president of the restored republic either.
If trump was still president, Roberts would need to reside over the impeachment, but he’s not... so....
How can Roberts preside over an impeachment with 30 cases on voter fraud still pending? Lol. He can’t.
Can you sense the democrat RINO panic?
Is there no reason why he could get out of it???
maybe he's already in prison lol
... or Robert's is not really on the SC anymore, maybe? Could he be wearing an ankle monitor too, and quietly arrested?
Can't preside over the trial if he's been disbarred for raping kids, eh?
Roberts: "I've got a great seat at the shit show, go or not go?"
Roberts doesn't make his own choices, his Epstein Isle proclivities ensure his cooperation whenever needed.
And you cannot blame Trump either if he is radio silent.
I think they are actively trying to incite a civil war / color revolution and that is one reason it had to play out like this. From day 1 they were expecting him to stop the witch hunt so they could claim obstruction and they have bounced from one ill planned scheme to the next.
Trump is constantly rope a doping them because they are fighting against the straw man they have built up that bears no resemblance to Trump himself. He is denying them that color revolution.
Don't know bit if trump brings the proof of cheating tt the senate then what? Dems say Insurrectuon was promoting the lie of cheating so that would be t he defense if they care to go through the motions.
It's a catch22 because the supposed insurrection has been claimed to be BECAUSE of the belief in election fraud.
What if all Trumps appointments to positions of power like the SCOTUS judges weren't to prove election fraud but for a new government of the republic.
if trump was a private citizen it would be an indictment right?
Roberts refused to take part in it which is a requirement of the trial. It's extremely unconstitutional on various instances from the initial start at the house and to where we are now.
Even if he WAS HOLDER OF PUBLIC OFFICE at the time of a given allegation?
This came up repeatedly in the talks of how the walls would come down around Obama.
I never got an answer / solution I had confidence in.
Does anyone know?
Seems like "unchartered whatever-we-say-it-is territory" like the general lawfare happening around Communist USSA
In theory:
If he's to be tried as a holder of public office, it's only logical that Roberts must preside. Because POTUS Trump is on trial, not an ordinary citizen Trump. Even if his term expired.
If he's to be tried as a citizen, the impeachment can't proceed, because only a holder of public office can be impeached.
In practice:
Dems will dress up as clowns, honk around and make their own rules, and if the SCOTUS is called upon, they'll make up some reason to refuse to get involved.
So more Kabuki theater.
GOES BACK TO WATCHING THE MOVIE
Can a foreign government impeach a sitting president (of the Republic) according to constitutional law (pre-1871)?
This. This is the simplest explanation.
But what they dont realise is that a bunch of directors of a corporation cannot impeach the President of United States (Unincorporated)
Exactly. DJT called the second impeachment a hoax.
It's just a show.
Of course, the first one was as well.....
But the House of Representatives can, and the Senate can try such impeachments.
House and Senate are just board members in a defunct corporation
No, that is not an accurate description of the underlying law.
And what if that isnt the case and he is convicted?
I am trying to imagine Trump putting everything into place and getting this plan rolling, including putting all the safeguards so he can hand the reins to Biden without worrying about him crashing the plan somehow, and yet forgot to take care of one pesky detail that is impeachment.
I cannot foresee exactly how this is going to play out, but I can confidently say this is a scenario that has been gamed out.
The Senate aren’t “directors of a corporation”; they can of course try impeachments, though this one is complicated slightly by Trump being out of office.
Cant run for President of District of Columbia? I dont think Trump likes that spot anyways.
Past presidents before Trump: Many years of living in luxury
Trump: 4 years of staying at Motel 6
If the plan is still active, and congress ate just actors playing a part, what better way to show the public evidence of the election fraud than a show trial under the false pretense of an impeachment? All eyes will be on it next week.
Yeah because “so he can’t run again” is a bullshit normie excuse, that obviously isn’t the REAL reason they’re impeaching him.
Devils advocate: its so he loses his lifelong SS detail privilege and they can bump him off in revenge for standing up to them and throwing off HRC's WW3 plans.
Impeached from what? The corporation. Stonegate. Tump is president of the constitutionaL United States of America.
Impeachment is the process by which a legislative body addresses legal charges against a government official.
So DJT is not a civilian, else it would be easier for them to frame him on a felony
but they choose to take the specific legal route of impeachment.
A felony conviction would satisfy their objective of barring DJT from future office.
I think this all has to do with the term "former" because msm's spin on it is claiming after the declass was released that "former" DOJ should not be able to be prosecuted because they no longer hold that title.
So can we impeach Obama post presidency as well? Seems we can! Also not sure how the fuck they can impeach someone who is no longer president. That's like firing someone who already quit and has a new job. I believe he stepped down and the military is in full control. Lets see how this sham plays out. Even dems are like why the fuck are you wasting our money on this??
How is Trump still President? Can you explain how that works? What part of the federal government is working with him and recognizing him as the current President?
Because he received 75 million legal votes. Biden didn’t.
Yes, but there was a coup. They ignored the evidence and installed Biden instead of re-swearing in Trump.
The courts ignored the evidence, the state legislatures didn’t and there are still more pending court cases.
Not over yet.
If courts wanted to do something, they would have acted. Its pretty much impossible to remove a President even after the process already played out. They could Article 25 him, but that's never going to happen with Democrat-controlled Senate/House....hell, wouldn't happen with Republicans either since most of them are in on the steal.
Basically, Biden is here to stay unfortunately. We need to focus on fixing voter fraud and then getting a MAGA type re-elected.
How can the courts do something on cases they haven’t even heard yet?
So far there's been dozens and dozens of lawsuits that have been dismissed. What do you think is going to happen with a few more lawsuits? They'll get dismissed or shut down.
Its not like suddenly a case will be taken up and they'll remove Biden and give us Trump back. It doesn't work that way.
It needed to happen before crucial dates such as Dec 14th, Jan 6th, and Jan 20th.
All we need is one to make it to the SC.
Trump just appointed 300 federal judges, I am sure at least one case will get heard. They can’t keep using the same excuses over and over.
Military who started this whole thing and brought trump into it.
Has Q said this himself? I haven't seen anything. Also just having a single person recognize him as the current President within the federal government doesn't give him any real legitimate power unfortunately.
No, but we k ow he won. That makes him legit. This is all show.
Just "knowing that he actually won" doesn't make him the current President in charge. He's not able to act like the current President.
I've thought about this and it is quite possible.
There are few simple explanation of why Trump is still president.
The most basic is that the Miltiary stepped in because no other branch did, and disqualified Biden because of election fraud. Once disqualified the election would go to the remaining legal candidate with the most electoral votes.
The other way, similarly, is martial law was declared, the entire election was voided and Trump simply remains in office until Martial Law is lifted and real elections can be had.
Trump may well be a shadow president.
My Two views on this
Wake up the public to the voter fraud by showing the uniparty traitors are well aware that they can’t beat President Trump in a future election so they have to bar him from running again somehow.
wake up the public to fraud knowing that the election will be overturned from one of the 30 election fraud cases still pending out of the 80 filed originally and they don’t want a rope put around their necks by President Trump.
Either way. No one can stop what’s coming.
Where we go one we go all. The best is yet to come.
He's not President. He turned over power. This impeachment is to undo all the EO's Trump put in place to free us.
He turned the government over to the military. Biden is a show
If that is true, the impeachment would have to be stopped, right? So something has to happen.
I've said for years that what Trump wants is the BIG spotlight - the trial of the century - all eyes locked on him as he reveals their treachery and the Q plan. I thought it would happen during first peachmint. 2nd Peachment seems better, don't you think?
Anyone else keep getting that odd feeling like the Dems are like hostages chained inside a rollercoaster car at the amusement park in a horror-show, trying to put on a smile and act like they are in control, but in reality can't get off?
I'm not sure if it's the quiet desperation, the nervousness/shifting-body-language, or something else I'm picking up on ....
They cheated trump in 2020 why couldn't they cheat him in "2024". There is a reason theyre trying to "impeach" him
Right!!!
not true. Trump is no longer the president of the corporation. the republic has not been restored yet, thus Trump is not the next president of the restored republic either.
This is the void right now.
Exactly!
You said it better than I did!!