They are Prosecutors. Prosecutors present evidence. I think they wanted to present evidence therefore they didn't fight the constitutionality of the impeachment.
Taking it a step further, what an amazing precedent they are setting by moving forward to impeachment a President that is "not" in office. If I were Obama or Bush, I would be a little worried about this.
I know! Just goes to show you how desperate they are to remove President Trump as a threat. They’re ready to throw everything on the table (poker’s all in) to remove him. This is what Trump & company have waited for!
which doesn't even make sense I might add if their reason for doing so is to keep him from running in 2024....by people who supposedly just got away with stealing an election and now hold the reigns of power? hmmmmmm
As a former court clerk, I can tell you that the personalities of the attorneys isn't key to a case. Trials are mostly boring. Pretty much the only reason a clerk stays awake in a trial is because the judge may ask for something or you needed to keep track of evidence. I much preferred the quicker proceedings: hearings, and first and second appearances. They always had a few surprises.
But here is the point to all of this and what Trump's attorneys did accomplish:
They gave the opposition what Trump always likes to provide--an option to stop moving their lies forward. In this case, it was an unconstitutional impeachment hearing. As usual, the left didn't take that option. That option left them up to all kinds of strategies that I hope Trump's lawyer's take (and see my comments at the end);
They allowed the other side to produce a doctored video (another unconstitutional step--the whole farce is unconstitutional and built upon a lie they are feeding to the ill-informed and willfully ignorant in America, whom I believe are slowing waking from slumber). Their unwillingness to concede brought about inflammatory statements (isn't that what they're accusing Trump of doing?). What's going to happen when Trump's lawyers produce the evidence that shows it wasn't Trump supporters who infiltrated that building. In fact, the only infiltration was staged via the breaking of windows--and who did that? It wasn't a planned insurrection by Trump. It was planned by the DNC and DNC operatives themselves, just as the had planned the Russian hoax that led to a bogus impeachment. We'll see how Antifa and BLM were allowed in the door by Capitol Police. We'll see the video of the five jackasses playing around in the House while a Capitol Police exclaimed more than once, "Millions are going to bust in.You need to hurry." The only thing that concerned that man was when the horned guy sat in the speaker's chair. I believe he feared Satan's mistress more than he feared the illusion they were trying to create.
Think of AOC and the others crying and carrying on about almost dying. What are the optics for the people in Minneapolis, D.C., St. Louis, and all those cities where Antifa and BLM rioted and did terrorize and kill innocent citizens and the demon governors and mayors wouldn't call on the national guard.
They had a hearing at the senate, and they showed the world how frightened they are of Trump supporters, whom they claim were the insurrectionist led by Trump. They "feel" safe with the National Guard. Aren't you asking yourself today, why they deserve the National Guard and the people of NYC or DC or Minneapolis were left to the dogs roaming the street, and even their police protection was taken away? I do believe the national guard is there for another reason but optics is a very good reason to be there as well.
Is their deflection finally going to catch up with them and entrap them in their evil doings as this farce goes forward. They have already accused our peaceful, law and order president, of everything they have been doing for years. I'm a Christian, so I don't call it karma, but I sure would love to watch a little "you reap what you sow" action today. Please, Lord. We've had enough. Please let us see justice passed upon these unjust, demonic souls, and let us see it soon.
The answer to my meandering questions still needs to be answered. If the lawyers can't do that, it worries me. I don't think the lawyers are slouches. I think they'll do well. And doesn't it also make you wonder what's going on while these idiots (Congress) are spending American taxpayer money to divide the American taxpayers after they sent those in need $600 in crumbs and a lot of our hard-earned dollars to the rest of the world? That can't be said enough. It will wake up those who haven't gotten out of bed yet to see what's going on around them. Don't kid yourselves that people aren't still out there starving, that homes aren't being foreclosed and people aren't losing the places they rent. I know for a fact it is going on all over the place. The poor and middle class are losing their footing in this Joe Biden two-to-three week show while the rich are fairing very well. The proof: research the low-to middle class real estate market versus high end.
I have this feeling that should President Trump and others be found without the plan we all expect, that the $600 is going to haunt those slimy demons. A hundred million ticked off Americans will not let our country go, and those demons might be praying for to help them should they continue down the route they're taking us straight into communism. On the surface, this impeachment looks like just one more of their dirty tricks to kick sand in the face of Conservatives and Trump supporters, but what they are truly doing, is exercising unconstitutional rights that are undoing our Constitution. I envision them untying the knot of freedom one string at a time. They're telling us that the Constitution doesn't matter. They're telling us that they are in charge. We are no longer We the People. They are saying, "We own you now."
Pray to God that He allows the plan to move forward soon.
Trump's lawyers are prosecutors, NOT defense lawyers. The big difference is that prosecutors must make their case by presenting evidence. That is what they are good at...
That should tip off what they are planning to everyone, no?
I believe they want the enemy to feel they’ve got this in the bag. I think this trial will allow Trump to finally reveal the evidence he’s been holding on to with good optics
I watched the entire presentation yesterday and all I can say is Trump's first lawyer rambled and didn't seem to do much for Trump. The second guy was a bit better but BORING. I sure hope this is part of the plan. Because otherwise Trump is screwed.
The other side looked much more compelling even though we all know their video was edited and did not contain the statements that Trump said to walk peacefully up to the Capitol We all KNOW what he said but any of the Normies watching needed to see through this.
I sure hope they have more counter point today. All in all they did not make a good appearance.
I literally fell asleep during the passionate second lawyer! I was like what??! No I think they needed to get on with the trial. I was hoping that they were acting disorganized and impudent to lead the DS into a false security. Pretty much been the plan all along. I just hope for once get the information revealed that we’ve been promised all these years!
Yesterday was simply confirming that tge trial will go fwd. Actual trial starts today. Each side gets 2 days. I assume prosecution goes first. Which means we prolly have to wait til Fri for the big booms to start.
The STORM is here. BTW I used to live in the DC area and grew up their as a kid. When this kind of weather strikes they shut down EVERYTHING. The Trial will be put on hold if it is that bad.
The upside is there is no traffic due to muh corona. I have no idea what will happen if OPM shuts the Fed down. I think the nastier weather won't hit until Sat.
The first question was about: Should the senate continue to hear the case brought by the House:
jurisdiction
So, viewed from this perspective, both lawyers were arguing perfectly. They appealed to two separate types:
Those senators who are politicians
Those senators who are legal minded.
The vote afterwards was no surprise. 56 of 100 are in on the plot.
44 of them are not.
Now it may be that some of those 56 may consider not to convict after hearing the case.
added:
Q3533
Reminder re: impeachment.
2/3rd Senate vote required to impeach POTUS.
53-47
Logical thinking.
You are watching D's 'con' liberal base using 'hope' tactics while maintaining 'POTUS obstruction of Justice' FAKE NEWS narrative.
Think 2020.
Q
It's all staged. I watched it yesterday live on CNN, the whole thing. Afterwards, CNN had already created the narrative that the performance of Trumps lawyers was weak, blablabla, and so on. Then they asked a "reporter" who has "sources" in Trumps inner circle what's goin' on there and he said that Trump was "borderline raging" about the performance of the lawyers. Aha, yeah, for sure a CNN reporter has "sources" related to Trump. If so: these sources would spread disinformation like candies.
Excuse me, but: they read all their arguments off a script, Trump knew the scripts, he wouldn't allow any lawyer do or read anything that he didn't know word by word by himself. He didn't borderline rage, he smiled like A-Team Hanibal about the plan in progress and workin exactly the way he wants it to.
We're watching a movie. It's boring from time to time, but the tension builds up in the background. Hitchcock could learn a thing or two from this.
I don't know if it was done on purpose or not, but I don't think it matters because the whole thing is such a joke. Facts don't matter, law and rules don't mean anything. Voting on the constitutionality of something doesn't make it so, and none of the senators who voted for it would be persuaded by evidence anyway.
I'm open to the possibility that Trump's team will finally be able to present some evidence of election fraud or even the democrat's own calls for violence, but leaky Leahy will just change the rules and shut it down.
Evidence? Why not the report that even Crowder has that states the 'insurrection ' was planned in advance?!.. on the other hand that first dude may have just been carefull with his words. He did say somethin about floodgates.
They are Prosecutors. Prosecutors present evidence. I think they wanted to present evidence therefore they didn't fight the constitutionality of the impeachment.
Taking it a step further, what an amazing precedent they are setting by moving forward to impeachment a President that is "not" in office. If I were Obama or Bush, I would be a little worried about this.
I know! Just goes to show you how desperate they are to remove President Trump as a threat. They’re ready to throw everything on the table (poker’s all in) to remove him. This is what Trump & company have waited for!
which doesn't even make sense I might add if their reason for doing so is to keep him from running in 2024....by people who supposedly just got away with stealing an election and now hold the reigns of power? hmmmmmm
Or it's just another scene in the movie
As a former court clerk, I can tell you that the personalities of the attorneys isn't key to a case. Trials are mostly boring. Pretty much the only reason a clerk stays awake in a trial is because the judge may ask for something or you needed to keep track of evidence. I much preferred the quicker proceedings: hearings, and first and second appearances. They always had a few surprises.
But here is the point to all of this and what Trump's attorneys did accomplish:
The answer to my meandering questions still needs to be answered. If the lawyers can't do that, it worries me. I don't think the lawyers are slouches. I think they'll do well. And doesn't it also make you wonder what's going on while these idiots (Congress) are spending American taxpayer money to divide the American taxpayers after they sent those in need $600 in crumbs and a lot of our hard-earned dollars to the rest of the world? That can't be said enough. It will wake up those who haven't gotten out of bed yet to see what's going on around them. Don't kid yourselves that people aren't still out there starving, that homes aren't being foreclosed and people aren't losing the places they rent. I know for a fact it is going on all over the place. The poor and middle class are losing their footing in this Joe Biden two-to-three week show while the rich are fairing very well. The proof: research the low-to middle class real estate market versus high end.
I have this feeling that should President Trump and others be found without the plan we all expect, that the $600 is going to haunt those slimy demons. A hundred million ticked off Americans will not let our country go, and those demons might be praying for to help them should they continue down the route they're taking us straight into communism. On the surface, this impeachment looks like just one more of their dirty tricks to kick sand in the face of Conservatives and Trump supporters, but what they are truly doing, is exercising unconstitutional rights that are undoing our Constitution. I envision them untying the knot of freedom one string at a time. They're telling us that the Constitution doesn't matter. They're telling us that they are in charge. We are no longer We the People. They are saying, "We own you now."
Pray to God that He allows the plan to move forward soon.
It's a well-scripted movie. I'm enjoying the show.
The vaccine thing is pissing me off. Masks. All of it. End it already
The attitude of Q wasn't as autistic as the popcorn crowd here. They've taken it and run with it like spastics.
Very good post. Thank you for sharing your thoughts.
Thanks!!!! I hope you’ll use your skills again through this sham impeachment. Great to hear your insight!
Trump's lawyers are prosecutors, NOT defense lawyers. The big difference is that prosecutors must make their case by presenting evidence. That is what they are good at...
That should tip off what they are planning to everyone, no?
they wanted it to go forward and did not want to waste much time
Look weak when you are strong. - The Art of War
Every wonder if someone looked weak because they were actual weak?
Look, I hope it's all a fake, but damn am I getting tired of this Sun Tzu quote.
Listen, they are smart people if they are lawyers.. they knew there was no way this wasnt going to trial.
Think cousin vinny.
I believe they want the enemy to feel they’ve got this in the bag. I think this trial will allow Trump to finally reveal the evidence he’s been holding on to with good optics
Agreed, Trump choosing to not show up the trial is part of the optics and plan
I watched the entire presentation yesterday and all I can say is Trump's first lawyer rambled and didn't seem to do much for Trump. The second guy was a bit better but BORING. I sure hope this is part of the plan. Because otherwise Trump is screwed.
The other side looked much more compelling even though we all know their video was edited and did not contain the statements that Trump said to walk peacefully up to the Capitol We all KNOW what he said but any of the Normies watching needed to see through this.
I sure hope they have more counter point today. All in all they did not make a good appearance.
I literally fell asleep during the passionate second lawyer! I was like what??! No I think they needed to get on with the trial. I was hoping that they were acting disorganized and impudent to lead the DS into a false security. Pretty much been the plan all along. I just hope for once get the information revealed that we’ve been promised all these years!
Does the trial continue today? Do you know the timeline at all.
Today is all Dems presenting "evidence." Trump's team won't come until Fri-Sat at the soonest.
I read somewhere that it starts at noon and will be a max of 8hrs
Yesterday was simply confirming that tge trial will go fwd. Actual trial starts today. Each side gets 2 days. I assume prosecution goes first. Which means we prolly have to wait til Fri for the big booms to start.
It'll be interesting to see what the next 4 days of DC weather brings - snow and ice through Sunday starting tonight.
The STORM is here. BTW I used to live in the DC area and grew up their as a kid. When this kind of weather strikes they shut down EVERYTHING. The Trial will be put on hold if it is that bad.
The upside is there is no traffic due to muh corona. I have no idea what will happen if OPM shuts the Fed down. I think the nastier weather won't hit until Sat.
I know it made me LOL when I read that too.
That first lawyer really reminded me of Joe Biden. It might be some kind of psychological trick. kek
The first question was about: Should the senate continue to hear the case brought by the House:
So, viewed from this perspective, both lawyers were arguing perfectly. They appealed to two separate types:
The vote afterwards was no surprise. 56 of 100 are in on the plot. 44 of them are not.
Now it may be that some of those 56 may consider not to convict after hearing the case.
added:
Q3533 Reminder re: impeachment. 2/3rd Senate vote required to impeach POTUS. 53-47 Logical thinking. You are watching D's 'con' liberal base using 'hope' tactics while maintaining 'POTUS obstruction of Justice' FAKE NEWS narrative. Think 2020. Q
It's all staged. I watched it yesterday live on CNN, the whole thing. Afterwards, CNN had already created the narrative that the performance of Trumps lawyers was weak, blablabla, and so on. Then they asked a "reporter" who has "sources" in Trumps inner circle what's goin' on there and he said that Trump was "borderline raging" about the performance of the lawyers. Aha, yeah, for sure a CNN reporter has "sources" related to Trump. If so: these sources would spread disinformation like candies.
Excuse me, but: they read all their arguments off a script, Trump knew the scripts, he wouldn't allow any lawyer do or read anything that he didn't know word by word by himself. He didn't borderline rage, he smiled like A-Team Hanibal about the plan in progress and workin exactly the way he wants it to.
We're watching a movie. It's boring from time to time, but the tension builds up in the background. Hitchcock could learn a thing or two from this.
I don't know if it was done on purpose or not, but I don't think it matters because the whole thing is such a joke. Facts don't matter, law and rules don't mean anything. Voting on the constitutionality of something doesn't make it so, and none of the senators who voted for it would be persuaded by evidence anyway.
I'm open to the possibility that Trump's team will finally be able to present some evidence of election fraud or even the democrat's own calls for violence, but leaky Leahy will just change the rules and shut it down.
If this is playing out as described in the drops...we want it to go forward to LEGALLY disclose EVIDENCE with the WW watching.
Evidence? Why not the report that even Crowder has that states the 'insurrection ' was planned in advance?!.. on the other hand that first dude may have just been carefull with his words. He did say somethin about floodgates.
The calm before the storm....