Couldn't they just Chinook those containers onto the aircraft carrier deck and crack them open one by one? And when you've got the intel the U.S. navy has, you don't have to crack them all open, just the ones with the bad stuff
Your average 40 foot container filled full of stuff is probibly twice what a Chinook can lift. The container alone(8,598 lb(3,900 kg)) is a little over one third of its lifting ability. Maximum gross weight 68,008 lb (30,848 kg), almost 3 times a Chinook's lifting ability.
Pretty much every heavy lift helicopter on the planet maxes out in the 10-15 ton range (20-30,000 lbs). If you ever see them lifting containers they are most likely empty or filled with light bulky things like toilet paper.
Capacity: up to 5 total people[b] / 20,000 lb (9,100 kg) payload
Which still is less than the Chinook. Its large dual rotors make it by far the best option 90% of the time. A few Russian designs similar to the S-64 can lift more but they are huge monster single rotor deals that frankly are a little lacking in other areas like fuel, range, etc.
Like you I used to think helicopters were these amazing things that could lift mountains. When you really look at the numbers you suddenly realize your average F-350 truck can haul more further than most helos.
20,000 kg (44,000 lb) cargo Possibly, but at best you will have two of them rotating back and forth. They are so large they would run into each other otherwise. The ship's container capacity is 20,124 TEU. So 10k 40ft containers. Let's say 2 mi-26 rotating can move one container every 10 min = 100,000 minutes = 1,666.66 hours = 69.44 days = enough jet fuel I can't even calculate it. And that's operating 24 hours a day. If you are limited to 14 hours or so of usable daylight you're talking 4-5 months of work.
I'm really trying not to rein on you guys parade but what you're talking about is impractical. Sure if moving a few dozen containers by air is really needed it can be done, but a whole ship is just a massive task.
I will admit the one advantage is that all of this would take place at sea level so the helicopters are dealing with nice thick air and would have maximum lifting capability. See that 55k lbs at the bottom. That is for sure 95% of the containers but it would still take forever to unload 10k of them.
I commented about this a few days ago when she was good and stuck. I figured two at most flying from opposite ends could move half of the containers...maybe a few more,..in 5 or 6 months. Takes big equipment. Bigger than most deck mounted cranes can deal with.
The best heavy lift helicopter on the planet is the Mi-10R and it can lift 55k... so if we divide by 50k we get 11,723.12. So fully loaded figure like what 15,000 helicopters? Add in another 2-3k to lift all the chains you'd need. Man would that be cool to see. We should try this...:)
Don’t hate me I’m just trying to be real here. If we’re talking about 20k containers, what’s a fair amount of time to assume it would take to move each container by helicopter? 7 mins all in?
Let’s use 7 just for an example.
20,000 x 7 mins = 140,000 mins total or 2333 hours. Even if you had 12 Chinooks working round the clock, that would be like 200 hours of non stop work.
But the thing people are forgetting here is that the ship was refloated first. So it was likely moved to a part of the Suez Canal where they have Quay Cranes. Quay Cranes are built to offload those containers. If it was refloated and brought to a part of the Suez Canal where there were Quay Cranes ready and waiting they could off load it very fast. I don't know why everyone is assuming they did it by chopper.
It says right in the article the ship was FREED and then unloaded. I'd assume once they freed it they used the tugboats to pull it to port and used Quay Cranes to unload.
Couldn't they just Chinook those containers onto the aircraft carrier deck and crack them open one by one? And when you've got the intel the U.S. navy has, you don't have to crack them all open, just the ones with the bad stuff
Tell them there is unlimited free beer and whiskey once they get done and you'll be amazed at what happens.
I imagine they are thinking of the kids they hope to rescue.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_CH-47_Chinook#Specifications_(CH-47F)
Empty weight: 24,578 lb (11,148 kg) Max takeoff weight: 50,000 lb (22,680 kg) Capacity: 24,000 lb (10,886 kg) payload
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intermodal_container#Specifications
Your average 40 foot container filled full of stuff is probibly twice what a Chinook can lift. The container alone(8,598 lb(3,900 kg)) is a little over one third of its lifting ability. Maximum gross weight 68,008 lb (30,848 kg), almost 3 times a Chinook's lifting ability.
Pretty much every heavy lift helicopter on the planet maxes out in the 10-15 ton range (20-30,000 lbs). If you ever see them lifting containers they are most likely empty or filled with light bulky things like toilet paper.
CH53 is yhe better Helo for that kind of weight.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikorsky_CH-53_Sea_Stallion#Specifications_(CH-53D)
Capacity: 38 troops (55 in alternate configuration) or 24 stretchers / 8,000 lb (3,600 kg) payload
Not even close. You sure you aren't thinking about this...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikorsky_S-64_Skycrane#Specifications_(S-64E)
Capacity: up to 5 total people[b] / 20,000 lb (9,100 kg) payload
Which still is less than the Chinook. Its large dual rotors make it by far the best option 90% of the time. A few Russian designs similar to the S-64 can lift more but they are huge monster single rotor deals that frankly are a little lacking in other areas like fuel, range, etc.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mil_Mi-10#World_records
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mil_Mi-26#Specifications_(Mi-26)
Like you I used to think helicopters were these amazing things that could lift mountains. When you really look at the numbers you suddenly realize your average F-350 truck can haul more further than most helos.
My bad. Apparently the E model is a beast.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikorsky_CH-53E_Super_Stallion#Specifications_(CH-53E)
External payload: 36,000 lb (16,329 kg)
Still that is nowhere near enough to unload thousands of containers... some of which will weigh 50,000 lbs.
90 % of the containers are well within the lift capacity of the M-26
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mil_Mi-26#Specifications_(Mi-26)
20,000 kg (44,000 lb) cargo Possibly, but at best you will have two of them rotating back and forth. They are so large they would run into each other otherwise. The ship's container capacity is 20,124 TEU. So 10k 40ft containers. Let's say 2 mi-26 rotating can move one container every 10 min = 100,000 minutes = 1,666.66 hours = 69.44 days = enough jet fuel I can't even calculate it. And that's operating 24 hours a day. If you are limited to 14 hours or so of usable daylight you're talking 4-5 months of work.
I'm really trying not to rein on you guys parade but what you're talking about is impractical. Sure if moving a few dozen containers by air is really needed it can be done, but a whole ship is just a massive task.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ever_Given#Description
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-foot_equivalent_unit
I will admit the one advantage is that all of this would take place at sea level so the helicopters are dealing with nice thick air and would have maximum lifting capability. See that 55k lbs at the bottom. That is for sure 95% of the containers but it would still take forever to unload 10k of them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mil_Mi-10#World_records
I commented about this a few days ago when she was good and stuck. I figured two at most flying from opposite ends could move half of the containers...maybe a few more,..in 5 or 6 months. Takes big equipment. Bigger than most deck mounted cranes can deal with.
How many Chinook's to lift the whole boat? or do we not want it ashore again?Happy Frog has Chinooked eyes
2, or 70
Heh. The whole boat... fully loaded?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ever_Given#Description
Displacement: 265,876 t (586,156,000 lb)
The best heavy lift helicopter on the planet is the Mi-10R and it can lift 55k... so if we divide by 50k we get 11,723.12. So fully loaded figure like what 15,000 helicopters? Add in another 2-3k to lift all the chains you'd need. Man would that be cool to see. We should try this...:)
u/#conspiracy
Plus a few extra just to make it look hard
Don’t hate me I’m just trying to be real here. If we’re talking about 20k containers, what’s a fair amount of time to assume it would take to move each container by helicopter? 7 mins all in?
Let’s use 7 just for an example.
20,000 x 7 mins = 140,000 mins total or 2333 hours. Even if you had 12 Chinooks working round the clock, that would be like 200 hours of non stop work.
But the thing people are forgetting here is that the ship was refloated first. So it was likely moved to a part of the Suez Canal where they have Quay Cranes. Quay Cranes are built to offload those containers. If it was refloated and brought to a part of the Suez Canal where there were Quay Cranes ready and waiting they could off load it very fast. I don't know why everyone is assuming they did it by chopper.
It says right in the article the ship was FREED and then unloaded. I'd assume once they freed it they used the tugboats to pull it to port and used Quay Cranes to unload.
It gonna look weird with just the US involved. Has to look like an international discovery. Optics!
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That ship sailed when they stole the election and committed the coup
We have a nation to save
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