My friend's 12-yr old niece is in Elmhurst Hospital on a ventilator with covid-19. I have sent him everything that I can (including how ivermectin got an 81 year old man off the vent) and he refuses to show anything to his sister that could potentially save his niece's life. He says he's afraid that if something went wrong his family would never forgive him. He tells me to stop sending information so we are done.
I never thought that I would think of my friend as a coward but I am so angry and hurt by his refusal that I am literally shaking. How do they not understand that the longer that girl is on the ventilator the greater the odds are of her dying???
Another one bites the dust because of frigging ignorance and I am beside myself.
Update 5/1/2020. The girl is awake. Thank God. Other than that I have no idea about her condition. Being that she is 12, I hope that the odds are in her favor.
Let's pray she'll pull through.
A lot of us are going to be broken hearted within the next few years, if not already so.
This is a great comment with excellent points. When the parents and uncle are wrapped up in all the stress they don't have the time or energy to be bombarded. I'm sure they are putting their faith in the doctors to do what is needed. The absolute majority of doctors are good. I pray the niece pulls through.
This is hard to hear I’m sure, but great points.
Great analysis
If I knew his sister, I would be talking to his sister. This child is at Elmhurst Hospital Center (the epicenter of the epicenter). He never spoke of them until about two weeks ago and he never even called them by name.
There was no insistence upon anything but discussing options which have not been made available to them to date. I'd be more than happy to take the heat for it. The little girl has already been on the ventilator for a week. so whatever happens is out of my control. I spoke with the only party that I knew in the situation.
At this point, the friendship is dead.
I texted him yesterday morning to see how she was doing and he said that they were taking her off of the ventilator. I then asked him to let me know how she was doing. Late last night he made a post on a social networking site that she was awake. The friendship is no more. I would love to say that this is the first time that he has ignored a request of mine for a simple text but I would be lying.
TO THE TOP.
I know your frustration. I did my own rant last night over my daughter because she's believing it's a virus & nothing you can do for it. We all got covid last week & my husband & I reached out to:
Dr. Stella Immanuel. frontlinemds.com. We got better with HCQ, Imervectin & the rest of the prescription she gave us. The doctor told my daughter they'd treat her vomiting & then they'd see what else they could do for her at a later date & sent her her home. A day later she's headed to the E.R. because she couldn't breathe. Luckily, they diagnosed she has pneumonia, they gave her oxygen, steroids & antibiotics & sent her back home. I'm on a mission to let people know there is meds to take for covid & nobody has to die.
Someone posted this a couple of days ago, I’ve been sharing to anyone who will listen. A great 30 minute run down, hope y’all recover 100%! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/294-a-different-take-on-our-state-of-emergency/id1072618042?i=1000508178139
Me too but unfortunately if got me nowhere and now I have one less friend.
I am so sorry!
Well I've definitely lost a friend and he will more than likely lose his niece.
The old saying "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink" seems to apply here. You did your best. It breaks your heart , but you have done all that you can. It will be on him when things go South. Very sad situation .
Don't assume the worst for her. have faith
Remember, the parents are not intentionally trying to kill their child. I take comfort in the fact that God is over all and if that little one dies, His arms are waiting for her. There's a vast spectrum of knowledge, awareness, integrity and honesty. Most of these deaths I lay at the feet of the medical mafia WHO SHOULD KNOW BETTER but are not doing it. They've been harming people for a great many years.
He won't even tell me who the doctor is and as of right now, we're no longer speaking. The only thing that I could even try is contacting the hospital but not knowing his niece's name or even his sisters name, I'm kind of screwed at the moment. He never talked about them.
You tried. That's all you can do. I am so sorry this is happening in your life right now.
I have COVID, and so does my 13 yo son.
It’s horrible.
We got tested the first day we had symptoms.
We got the results 24 hours later.
We immediately when on Ivermectin.
It helped both of us big time.
Without it, I think I would be in the hospital.
I'm so glad that you are doing better. Thank God that you at least used your brain, unlike my ex-friend.
Very sad story and unfortunately it is being repeated all over the world. Take care of yourself.
Unfortunately, he hasn't listened. And you lost a friend over this. Some day when the truth comes out about how the media, social media, politicians, and medical community covered up the true cures comes out perhaps he will know you were right.
I have been banned on social media for trying to share all I know about ivermectin and HCQ so you know they are hiding the truth from all.
I really hate these people. It has literally killed my faith in God and in humanity.
Please don't give up on God. Humanity was always flawed. God is whom we all need right now. This may be God's way of waking up more people to follow Him. Just remember that people often turn to God during their darkest hours.
I believe this is our last chance to answer God's call. So many people have made the choice not to follow Him in these last of days. No matter what evil is perpetrated here on earth, our real home will be in Heaven for all eternity with Him.
? Amen
I definitely would not bat for the other team. I will continue to promote the Lord. I have seen His answer to so many prayers. Between watching my pastor and his wife lose all 3 their prematurely born triplets and how hard they fought for each baby over the course of 10 days and this situation with my friend who is unwilling to even ask the doctor about a potential cure for his niece whom "he loves, she is his everything" (he has three kids of his own, I pray they never see that post) I am just in a deep valley trying to understand the why of it all. I need to somehow get out of this negative energy which is preventing me from seeing the good in anything.
I feel for you...I have told people I love about the vax, one so far has got it...the others, thanks to God, have said “maybe I should wait”.
I keep praying for intervention to stop them...and we’ve had supply shortages, plus one has to get a medical procedure now and cannot vax.
But I understand how your friend feels..if he TELLS them and something bad happens...people resort to what they always do..BLAME someone else. I proceeded cautiously, sent a couple articles on blood clots...etc, but I held back and left the rest in God’s hands.
No one can add a single second to their own life if God deems this was the moment you are to die.
As far as my health goes...I do believe God helps those who help themselves, no smoking, proper diet, exercise...I do all of these but if God sends me a crippling disease to put my spirit to the test, there is nothing I can do. It is God’s will.
People forget sometimes that we are eternal beings made to live in eternity with our Creator God.
A different perspective might help and of course prayer to accept God’s will for our very short time on this earth.
Godspeed Fren, I know how you feel, it is painful to watch. Very painful.
It’s WILLFUL IGNORANCE that makes it so hard to take.
“My mind is made up don’t confuse me with the facts!” Praying for the little girl.
I am sorry to hear that...Someday I have hopes some will pull their heads out of the sand instead of listening to the programed bullshit
People are fucking retarded and others unnecessarily suffer due to it.
I’m sorry to hear that. Don’t feel too bad though- Elmhurst is liberal to the extreme , I wonder if this docs would even consider ordering ivermectin for this patient
Almost inconceivable ventilators are still used. But it is Elmhurst in New York. This video from March 2000' is STAGED DECEPTION! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bE68xVXf8Kw
Dr Colleen Smith- https://feminem.org/speaker/colleensmith-md/ Dr. Smith is currently one of the Assistant Program Directors for the Mount Sinai Emergency Medicine Residency Program. She has a focus in medical education and simulation, having completed a simulation fellowship at NYU/Bellevue. She enjoys speaking about the application of simulation to medical education and patient care, methods of feedback, and avoidance of cognitive errors or biases.
You can't expect people to do what you would do. You can guide them and help them, but if they refuse that, it's not on you. This is not your fault, many people won't have offered any assistance.
Problem is we've been programmed to believe that if you're in a hospital, you're with experts. You're opinion no matter how valid and researched is never going to breach that.
Which is effectively the problem were having globally, the reason most aren't waking up to all the bullshit going on is not to do with the data, but the source to which that data comes from.
The hope now is that the msm self implodes from the weight of their lies enough to drive the majority away from them. Then it's an open playing field. Discussions will start to open up. The opinions of the well read will become more respected. It will become a more valued thing to be able to explain why you know something. And then hopefully we'll get to the point where people start to believe that knowing their opinions are correct is more important than convincing others of those opinions.
So stop sending information and in time your friend will realize you were right.
Having the same battle with my wife. This is the first topic in the nigh on 2 decades weve been together where we cannot come to a consensus. She thinks im being dismissive of her concerns, but her concerns are now mostly on "what if im an asymptomatic spreader? I dont want to harm your dad". Who already was vaccinated (dont get me started on that one). Shes even planning to get it if the testing shows she has antibodies.
Shes got an allergy weve yet to identify as well, so shes at high risk on getting the vac itself. Im grateful at least ive convinced her the pfizer /bg funded vaccines are basically a walking death sentence, but the astra vacs is the more prominent one in the uk.
I wont give up on her, so don't you give up on those you love either fren. Just be there for them if they wont listen, and know there is a route out of the darkness to the future. My Prayers are with you and yours, and all my fellow frens here.
Have faith in God's will.
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He's already told me to stop sending information. Friendship is dead. Tired of crying about this.
I've lost quite a few friends.
How do you handle that? There are so few that I really let in.
First, be friends with more people. Your network is your net worth. Think of it like stocks. When you lose in one area, it won't kill you.
Second, and probably a less popular view, is that you're putting your personal views above someone else's in their own life. That is a recipe for failure each and every time. I also have friends who are in the 4-6% and it sucks but what sucks worse is the mental, physical, emotional, and spiritual drain you choose to put yourself through in order to obtain negative result.
How do I handle that? By accepting that the world is an abundant place and that new frens are super easy to make.
Third, do not weep for others before they are dead. There are WAY MORE people to save, and who are ready and willing to be saved, too.
I am not a cold anon. But I do recommend shutting that emotional shit off ASAP. Use your logical brain to make decisions for YOU moving forward. You made it this far, fren. Keep going.
What you said makes sense. Thanks
I am the same way. I don't crave a lot of relationships in general so my circle has gotten smaller. It's not easy. I've been trying to focus on work. I daycare, so the children are a big blessing. And I've been repainting the house & cleaning things out. Trying to think more of the brighter days to come when the world knows all that we know. Hoping the friends who judged me will come back & apologize. & if not, hoping to connect with new people whose eyes are open. Hang in there. xo
Thank you for your encouraging words.
Send him the video of the nurse whistle blower saying the vents are a death sentence.
I did. He doesn't want to hear it. I understand his reasoning but it is hard to watch when your pretty certain that this will not be a good outcome without the proper medications.
https://www.thedesertreview.com/opinion/letters_to_editor/ivermectin-wins-in-court-again-for-human-rights/article_98d26958-a13a-11eb-a698-37c06f632875.html maybe print this out?
I already sent him that article. Didn't do any good but thank you for posting.
Look up the milgram experiment. 65 % of people will murder someone simply because someone in a white lab coat tapped a pen on a clip board and said “you must continue”. This does not mean that the participants didn’t feel anguish at their actions, it just means they would murder someone simply because an authority figure told them to.
Obedience to authority is deeply ingrained in all of us. Think of it, how many people were able to stand outside the castle and loudly proclaim to all observers that the king was a satanist that drank blood of children that had been tortured, raped and murdered.
People that did not do as they were told by authority were murdered by authority and their entire family line May of been exterminates for their boldness as well. Obedience to authority has been selectively bred into our species for thousands of years.
Don’t be too hard on your friend. Have compassion for him, while he may be obedient to an authority that is not worth the obedience; his anguish and pain are real.
I don't doubt his anguish or his pain. I am frustrated because of all the lies, misinformation and fear porn surrounding this whole nightmare.
I hear you.
I think the key is to ask pointed questions, but do so in a manner than compels an answer; like a freedom of information request or court process. James from veritas is one of the few that is effective at achieving results. Or as setup a honey pot sting for a NWO patsie.
But its the lawsuits and FOI requests that we are exposing in a way that enables criminal prosecution.
So take all that anger and rage, and funnel it to your local health authority that is legally responsible to achieving informed consent prior to vaccination and ask some questions. Perhaps I could offer a pointed one or two.
The MNRA vaccine will alter our cells to produce a spike protien, our immune system will attack this spike protien and thereby gain knowledge on how to combat Covid. Question 1) Following administration of this gene therapy how long will the body produce spike protiens? (don't accept an answer until it is backed up with a study; y'know follow the science?) Question 2) What test can be performed to measure the amount of spike protien currently in a persons body? Question 3) Where can this test be acquired? or, used? Question 4) What tests have been done to determine if vaccinated people will transmit spike protien to the unvaccinated? Question 5) What tests have been done to determine the safety of the spike protien?
But ask the questions through an FOI so that they are compelled to answer and so that the answer, if fraudulent or if it demonstrates failure in a duty of care, can be used in a judicial process to cuff and lock them up!
I am sorry but there is nothing you can do. You gave him the information and thats all you could have done. It is up to them now. In advance I say R.I.P. to the little girl.
What a selfish dick. Maybe there is a reason he wants the child to pass away?
He does not want the child to pass away. He is scared. His sister trusts the doctors and do not question. They just hope that she will get better.
As a friend you should stop and think about what a friend is. Do you dump a friend in their time of direst need?
You did.
I care not why and the wherefore's of your reason.
You never were a real friend.
Walk a mile in my shoes before you judge me. I have not dumped my friend, he dumped me. He and his family are scared and rightly so due to the lies, misinformation and fear porn. If I knew the child's mother I would be reaching out to her and not putting him in the middle.
A real friend speaks the truth in love. When the message is rejected what do you do? Beat your already bloody head against a brick wall or dust off your sandals and try to help somebody else?
I have walked a mile in your friend's shoes. Don't need to know more about you.
Of course speak the truth. However you wrote off your friend, and walked away.
Walked away. You said it yourself.