White hats could hack that password on a local machine in a couple hours with normal cracking brute force tools.
This is to expose them - they already have it all.
If the password is hacked we still don't know who had it, and why. We think Dominion had it, judging from their lording behaviour at the elections. Trouble is they are muh privacy about their passwords. How does one persuade them to admit they had them, or maybe someone can trap them into using them again?
Their security for the election was so lax, maybe the security to their email boxes was similarly lax? Anyone tried hacking those? I think so. But then we have to dial back the courtly narrative to something that is admissable in court.
A good lawyer never asks a question he doesn't already know the answer to. I'm guessing they have hacked the passwords and asking for them is just to show the public how crooked the election was!
fun for us if they hack, but that evidence won't stand up in court. We need some red-handed, sure as eggs, bona-fida verified data, or even a good argument with several points, that proves beyond a resaonable doubt that x did y. This tactic of using the media to provoke a response, allows the defence to save face, if they can, legally. So they offer short-cuts for the defence to bite on.
However, there are many routes up the mountian. What if nothing is forthcoming? Not even a knee-jerk from the social media hype?
Can they see who or which computers were communicating with timestamps? sure, IF so, who is the recipient? No doubt some sort of login was already detected, when they did the deed. IS there data being held by private or national-size servers? Who owns/runs those? This way lies legalese minefields: Are we allowed to just go hunt through some server's data base? I think not. I'm sure governments already do, but they won't admit to it. [insert: Spies, five eyes; NSA etc.]. To gain access with a search warrant, the court must first order one. It's a strategy that has a variable that is determined in court, by possibly biased judges and can mean the defence's involvement or even derailment claiming muh privacy. It has a extra step in the process, and requires some planning.
They can also triangulate the non-voters from cross-checking voter rolls against Dr Frank's 6th polynomial curves, but that will only prove that a numbers racket happened, and ballot destruction and stuffing occurred, until it is followed with a knock-around that some are balking at, on grounds of privacy rights or something. Determination will be needed to overcome resistance, even to the grass-roots level when canvassers could be attacked in the street by agitators. This may win Trump his re-instatement, but it is hard work. It could also turn into a bloodbath.
They have found algorithms used with a very high correlation, so high, it's unnatural. Nice but it needs to be part of evidence because we have not pointed to the perpetrator ... yet.
I believe this exercise is to publicize the situation rather than solve it (the solution being military and independent of this work) and also to see how much rope the bad guys will take before their trial. I.e., like Raffensberger, there had been an opportunity to back out and work with the good guys.
If they obtain the passwords in the manner suggested, they run the risk of any evidence discovered being excluded from potential court cases. The approach the auditors are following may take longer but it is assuring evidence obtained will stand up to legal scrutiny.
Quit asking for passwords, and arrest them all on conspiracy charges. It is impossible for all of them to "not know" who has the password, therefore there is a legal reason to support conspiracy charges.
White hats could hack that password on a local machine in a couple hours with normal cracking brute force tools. This is to expose them - they already have it all.
If the password is hacked we still don't know who had it, and why. We think Dominion had it, judging from their lording behaviour at the elections. Trouble is they are muh privacy about their passwords. How does one persuade them to admit they had them, or maybe someone can trap them into using them again?
Their security for the election was so lax, maybe the security to their email boxes was similarly lax? Anyone tried hacking those? I think so. But then we have to dial back the courtly narrative to something that is admissable in court.
Seconds. Pink1
A good lawyer never asks a question he doesn't already know the answer to. I'm guessing they have hacked the passwords and asking for them is just to show the public how crooked the election was!
WHO BUILT THE CAGES JOE?!
WHO’S THE BIG GUY JOE?!!!
Who’s going clean your toilets Donald trump?! - Kelly Osbourne
“WHERE ARE TURTLES????” - Michael Scott
Damn i miss Trump. He gave all the best intel hidden in quips against his political enemies
last i heard dominion has passwords.
Who has the football? That's my concern.
lol.
BRING ON THE HACKERS!
fun for us if they hack, but that evidence won't stand up in court. We need some red-handed, sure as eggs, bona-fida verified data, or even a good argument with several points, that proves beyond a resaonable doubt that x did y. This tactic of using the media to provoke a response, allows the defence to save face, if they can, legally. So they offer short-cuts for the defence to bite on.
However, there are many routes up the mountian. What if nothing is forthcoming? Not even a knee-jerk from the social media hype?
Can they see who or which computers were communicating with timestamps? sure, IF so, who is the recipient? No doubt some sort of login was already detected, when they did the deed. IS there data being held by private or national-size servers? Who owns/runs those? This way lies legalese minefields: Are we allowed to just go hunt through some server's data base? I think not. I'm sure governments already do, but they won't admit to it. [insert: Spies, five eyes; NSA etc.]. To gain access with a search warrant, the court must first order one. It's a strategy that has a variable that is determined in court, by possibly biased judges and can mean the defence's involvement or even derailment claiming muh privacy. It has a extra step in the process, and requires some planning.
They can also triangulate the non-voters from cross-checking voter rolls against Dr Frank's 6th polynomial curves, but that will only prove that a numbers racket happened, and ballot destruction and stuffing occurred, until it is followed with a knock-around that some are balking at, on grounds of privacy rights or something. Determination will be needed to overcome resistance, even to the grass-roots level when canvassers could be attacked in the street by agitators. This may win Trump his re-instatement, but it is hard work. It could also turn into a bloodbath.
They have found algorithms used with a very high correlation, so high, it's unnatural. Nice but it needs to be part of evidence because we have not pointed to the perpetrator ... yet.
if they have access to the box (which it seems they do) it's really, really simple to find out the passwords using software suck as kali or l0phtcrack
I believe this exercise is to publicize the situation rather than solve it (the solution being military and independent of this work) and also to see how much rope the bad guys will take before their trial. I.e., like Raffensberger, there had been an opportunity to back out and work with the good guys.
If they obtain the passwords in the manner suggested, they run the risk of any evidence discovered being excluded from potential court cases. The approach the auditors are following may take longer but it is assuring evidence obtained will stand up to legal scrutiny.
Surprisingly passwords are often stored in just that manner. Still not a good idea to risk a carefully structured legal case by taking a shortcut.
If Maricopa doesn't have passwords, it proves they broke chain of custody the instant the votes were counted.
Uh, Dominion and ES&S?
Can anyone click the 'Forgot Password' link and get yourself a new one ?
I KNOW THE PASSWORD!!!
u/#cmon
Duh - Dominion and a bunch of people in Chyna have them
Why does this sound like Trump
"I will teach them."
Dominion
Dominion does....they ran the show. I don't think the MC officials ever had them.
Quit asking for passwords, and arrest them all on conspiracy charges. It is impossible for all of them to "not know" who has the password, therefore there is a legal reason to support conspiracy charges.
the password is: 123