Sorry this post is a little long winded, but I like to be methodical when I'm trying to extract a dose of Hopium. I'm sadly doubtful by nature so it takes a lot for me to work up some Hope. I like to be thorough to make sure I'm not bull shitting myself.
So I was scrolling and I saw this:
NYT and other MSM outlets are trying to debunk claims that. . . Trump will be reinstated??
This kinda floored me. Of course, I don't know what's going to happen but. . . wow.
If it's so silly, why are they even trying to debunk it?
So the above link is from John Solomon's JusttheNews website. (I'd rather not share NYT articles on here, and John Solomon is actually a pretty decent guy and solid reporter)
Apparently the NYT has been going on and on about these claims that Trump says he will be reinstated by August.
Solomon's "JustheNews" gets a comment by Lewandowski about the NYT's latest hissy fit.
Lewandowski states:
"I can tell you as a person who talks to the former president on a very regular basis, I’ve never had that conversation with him so I’m not saying it’s dishonest, "I’m just saying that I’ve never heard it."
I took a double take with that: " I’m not saying it’s dishonest "
Maybe I'm overthinking this, but if the NYT was just being totally batshit and making up claims, wouldn't someone who is decently within Trump's inner circle respond with something like: "These accusations are outrageous. Of course ("former") President Trump isn't making such wild claims."
If someone is spreading a bunch of nonsense that would make you look bad wouldn't you want to extinguish that promptly and decisively? If something is definitely not going to turn out true, distance from it entirely, right? (think about how our sweet Kayleigh shut down the "suckers and losers" claim)
But he doesn't do that. He goes out of his way to tell us he can't say they are dishonest. He doesn't even say he thinks that's unlikely. He just tells us he's never heard it.
Unless Lewandowski is just completely zonked on valium or something and has no idea what's going on, there's some reason he's being careful with his words. A claim like this (Trump's reinstatement) doesn't just piss off Dems. It sounds pretty weird to normie Republicans too (Shapiro, Catturd, etc.)
Some other developments:
My vanilla liberal friends are starting to confront me with MSM articles talking about Trump and Flynn's "plans for a coup." Why are they obsessing about this stuff right now?
[Sorry I don't feel like linking to those articles, but with a quick search you can find them]
Also:
FAUCI is having one rough day. HOLY SHIT. I can't believe how fast that dam burst. (already lost a damn book deal I hear).
My Analysis:
We have seen a general pattern with the MSM for the past four years: They obsess over some claim Trump makes, or claims Trump's voters make. They go on and on about how silly it is. They DEBUNK it.
But then. . . their narrative falls apart. And then a little later we see some confirmation Trump might have been right after all. And then: BOOM we learn Trump was totally f*cking right -- and the MSM shit their pants.
Think about the lab leak hypothesis, or Trump's claim that Obama spied on his campaign, or that Comey was sending his cronies to spy on Trump in the White House, or Hunter and the laptop. The MSM was APALLED with all of this: "How could Trump stoop so low, and say something so outrageous" they more or less said. .
And then Trump turns out to be the one who was RIGHT ALL ALONG.
Long story short, I can't help but wonder if we're seeing this here. They're starting to obsess over some supposedly "crazy" stuff Flynn, the Q community, or Trump is saying. They're telling us how silly it all is ("muh. . .Trump cannot be reinstated in August. That's not how that works.").
Why on Earth are they focusing on this stuff ? Trump's not making any big public statements about it. These statements were allegedly made in private. Shouldn't they be focusing on the 'President" Biden's ambitious agenda or whatever they're hyping it as?
I think something's bothering them. They feel the need to "debunk" it. And if they're going out of their way to debunk something normies aren't even hearing about, they must be at least a little nervous.
But like the lab leak theory, maybe the dam will begin to break.
And maybe just maybe it's all true. Hope my way of presenting things is helpful for some of you. I know I'm giving myself hope.
WWG1WGA
My guess is they are trying to gaslight the public and get into their heads that him returning is not legally possible.
They can see the tide is turning on so many fronts all they can do is go back to ORANGE MAN BAD. This is 100% panic.
Their apparent 180 on some stories is a bad attempt at trying to seem unbiased.
it really is quite amazing what DJT has done to these poor people's head...then again fuck em
Rent free baby
haha exactly
Trump does know his real-estate!
Too bad so many of those "spaces" are empty!
They were filled with garbage, so....
Trump: living rent free in the landfill that is the collective leftist mind.
It's fun to watch.
NCSWIC
.... Truth Hurts..
Exactly my friend. We're thinking the same thing. It really looks like panic. If I were a normie, I would think the claim that Trump was going to be reinstated was so absurd it didn't need debunking. But they feel the need to do just that. They're shaky.
I guess you could play devil's advocate and argue they're still trying to milk some money out of the Orange Man Bad routine, but it just feels bigger than that to me.
Deep down they want him to be back in office. Way too much money to be had. They just can't say it out loud.
This is not about money. This is about power.
Trust me fren, they want both BADLY.
Agreed, but the only way to make sense out of their actions is to realize that they are willing to lose a lot of money to acquire power.
Money is Power.
I'm not being difficult here, but you're thinking small.
With money, you have a certain amount of power.
With power, you have collossal amounts of money.
Overall true, but think about the history and what money is.
Whoever controls the money, controls everyone.
Even the most powerful man will eventually fall to whoever controls the money.
The Central Banks are the modern day slave masters.
When you say 'Whoever controls the money...', you are effectively saying 'Whoever has all the power...'.
After all, how does someone 'control all the money' without first having all the power?
Millionaires and billionaires control a (reasonably small) group of people close to them. But globalists want to control the entire population, and that doesn't take money, that takes power.
Some people can be bought, but consider yourself. Would you allow yourself to be bought? Of course not. So, in order to control you (and others), they need power. Money does not do the trick.
Nicely stated. I would imagine anyone who takes the Q phenomena seriously would admit that there's more going on here than money. We talk about things like the ever expanding influence of a globalist cult, a cult that attaches itself to intelligence agencies -- and in some instances, creates them (e.g. CIA) -- throughout the world. A cult that seeks to enact a one world government and establish a nightmarish form of Feudalism. Blackmail networks. Secret societies.
While it is certainly true that seeking lots of cash in the short run is a powerful motive of groups, I don't know how anyone who stops their analysis there could be seriously interested in something like the Great Awakening.
Agree. If it was about money they would have covered Epstein's Island and NXVIUM. Talk about money-generating crazy stories. Crickets from the press. Even the National Enquirer wasn't really interested. "Hollywood actors participating in a sex cult headed and funded by the Seagram family fortune, where the women branded and kept as sex slaves? Billionaire mogul ex-boyfriend of a British and Israeli spy's daughter entertaining the Royal Family, the Clintons, and countless other world elites is a pedophile and has an island with a Temple on it? Nah. What else you got?"
Perfectly put. These organisations likely do not care about stories, clicks, eyeballs or even revenues. They are apparatus. Organs of the (deep) state with even deeper pockets. If it’s in the “news”, it’s for matrix-level reality-bending political propaganda reasons only. Not public interest. And certainly not journalistic truth.
I agree some part of them does want Trump back in office.
But they eventually stopped showing Trump even though the ratings were so good. So I think you make a good observation that they realize Trump = $$$$$, and they wish they could still have that.
But ultimately I agree with ProudofAmerica. While MSM wants lots of money, there's too much at stake with him in office. Look at how they would virtually stop covering Trump when he got too hot to handle (e.g. voter fraud). The media's handlers had too much at stake with Trump in office. So much so that the money's not worth it.
"The Agenda" is more important to them ultimately then money.
I can't disagree with you. One thing is clear. The most powerful have the most money by a extreme margin. They equate money with power. With Trump in office they get to try for both at the same time.
All movies will play at once ;o)
The white hats and black hats are always playing cat and mouse games.
I don't think the black hats have any idea what Trump is going to do. This August 15th Inauguration clearly has them rattled, so they are trying to make the normies upset about it.
But in the history of the last 5 years, none of the dates we thought we were being given secret information about have come to anything. I don't put any weight into it. If it happens, great.
I do think Trump and the White Hats are up to something. But we really need to stop wasting our time trying to figure it out so we can predict it and be right.
It never works. It is really time just to chill. Stay alert. Let's see what happens.
I know of one date that turned out to be correct: June 1st.
I don't remember WHO said that something was going to drop on June 1st, but it was summarily dismissed with all the rest... except this one was right.
It was maybe the Wayfair guy... This is going to bother me. I need to find it, because if they were right with this one, then I don't believe that is a fluke.
I knew he mentioned something in the proximity but I swear that someone said June 1.
I can’t remember who but I just saw that on a post today as well, so you are correct.
maybe fuckberg and FB making a deal to try to save ass....? w/ DJT back on FB and IG...
once AZ audit results are ready he will have an un-interfered platform to BLAST the results?
I think us biting on different dates was Q using us as bait to head fake the deep state into mistakes
I get that. That's where I've been for a couple months now. I pretty much tuned out of politics entirely, focused on some old interests, and learned as much as I could about these vaccines from a biological/medical perspective.
But this stirred something in me because now we have a date allegedly straight out of Trump's mouth. Also, I'm not too caught up on the August date, but rather that there are murmurings that Trump himself is acknowledging that he may return.
In some ways I might actually be more doubtful than you are actually. My doubts don't surround dates so much as the question of whether there's a plan at all. I sometimes worry there aren't enough white hats. And it all seems too incredible sometimes.
The recent dates under discussion, interestingly, are not related to a Q post. Q's post can be so cryptic that you can make a lot of things work. But we are seeing these issues played out in a much less disguised form. We are getting very undisguised discussions about "the big issue" in a back and forth between Trump's camp and the media. I think the media is being less disguised about things; and Trump's camp appears less disguised too.
I dip in and out of Q research, so am certainly no expert, but I don't remember the media ever engaging with Q stuff like they have the past few days. In the sense of putting out there for discussion one of the biggest pieces: Trump's return.
It's funny though because I really can see your position. I've gotten tired of the whole thing. We must just be running on different clocks or cycles :)
It wasnt trump though it was Bannon slipping up on his podcast right? Thats where i first heard about it, and at the end of the day, it's not worth putting too much stock into something that could have been an innocent slip up and/or a Paytriot attempting to get more viewers.
Yeah, Bannon had a slip up. I have no confirmatory evidence that Trump has been making these statements. I might have phrased a few things poorly in my original post, but I'm more interested in why the media is so obsessed with these potential comments (I just checked and there's more articles being posted about it by MSM). So I'm wondering if the MSM is anticipating something. Because Trump is not broadcasting this to the general public. Fox Business even asked Lara Trump if President Trump has been saying this, and she said she didn't think so unless there's something higher up that she's not aware of.
So long story short I didn't post to try to make an August prediction or anything like that, just pointing out it looks like "the plan" really might be true. And that the media might fear that this is the case.
If MSM are saying Aug 15 its likely Bannon did it on purpose to throw them off of the real time frame, maybe to make them sweat, thinking they got til august to plan false flgs but Trump gets things done by July maybe
I doubt catturd is a 'normie', and shapiro is a RINO.
About the MSM....maybe this is the start of the conditioning in the general publics brain that this will indeed happen?
Is Catturd into more below the surface issues? (Federal Reserve, globalism. etc)? i like him and think he is really funny at times, but i just thought he was more your standard Trump style Republican.
i agree about Shapiro. he's pretty bright, but i dislike too much the forms of conservatism he embraces to listen to him much or care what he has to say.
Catturd is anti-Q. I've seen a lot of his twitter posts mocking us. He is defo a normie republican in the sense he knows dems and republicans are a corrupt uniparty, but whether he's into the pedo cabal stuff, I'd say no based on his public attitude and tweet history.
They're trying to get ahead of the narrative, thereby creating the narrative. These people are stupid.
That's an interesting point. I could see that.
They are obsessing because they want to bring him in on false charges. They want to stir the pot and anger the Left.
I thought about that too. Worth considering. But I think they'd have a much better time of putting Trump in a legal jam with the NY prosecutor, trying to go after his finances in some way. I think they'd be grasping at straw there too, but trying to get Trump on a coup attempt would be kind of looney tunes in terms of legal argument. Just think of how embarrassingly bad the Dems legal arguments were for the January 6th "case."
And those charges were brought in the much less stringent context of impeachment. If they try something even dumber in a criminal court, I can't see how it won't flop.
i cant believe we caught them red handed fabricating and falsifying evidence at that impeachment a few months ago and nothing fucking happened. Unreal.
Telegram channels are saying this is a way of gearing up for his arrest. The first arrest as Q says. All for show.
That to me is nonsense though. It will spark the civil war the DS want and Q is desperate to avoid.
Sound reasonable to me fren.
Fauci emails = 3 Gorges Dam? I like it!
Hey good connection!
They don’t want Fauci email release to be spoken about so they gaslight with a fake a Trump story fed to their favorite Propoganda (see Hillary Clinton emails) shill aka Maggie Haberman. Don’t talk about this at all! Don’t feed their dialogue. Don’t give it a single breath.
it is true that Fauci is the most important news right now, but the MSM is actually covering it. Just in a God awful way. They are somehow trying to give this a positive spin. It's incredible.
I really haven't seen the August return story all that much when I'm scrolling though the news sites so I'm not convinced it's being used to drown out the Fauci story. They're mostly just spinning the shit out of the Fauci story.
i have no idea what's going to happen just keep in mind the recent "debunk" retractions the MSM has made lately....?
Yeah good point
Trump will not be reinstated because he has been president the whole time. These coordinated articles are an attempt to rally anti Trump sentiment by stating as fact a notion they have correctly guessed.
Getting in front of the narrative?
IMO, this is being "thrown" out there to take away from the audits and now the Fauci emails.
Hey thanks I'll check it out.
huh, really? I checked and they only have like a 12 year difference between them I think. I wouldn't think Hussein would cross paths with her until later on.
Ah ok, just did. That's Haberman in the picture?
Trump stories = clicks = $$$$$$
This has always been the case. I wouldn't read too much into it past that. MSM is ALWAYS going to cover the latest Trump narratives.
One thing, I think, is that they are nervous becuase Trump has an enormous amount of power. He got that power simply by promising, and then doing, things that Amercans liked, but the MSM and the rest of the Left do not understand this.
AND if August comes and goes and...............................nothing happens? just asking.
I'm not really focused on the date but the very fact that there are murmurings that Trump is making this claim. Also the media seems so interested in it. And a person on the Trump team more or less gave us the classic: "I cannot confirm or deny."
For me personally, that stuff seems weightier to me than your standard Q proof type thing (I'm kinda sick of them honestly), but that's just my very subjective impression. It's just about the closest we've gotten to open acknowledgement.
But of course, I have no idea in terms of dates., For me, at the moment, it just kinda feels like the plan is for real. It's been a while since I've felt this. But I wouldn't bet the farm on it either of course.
nobody here is datefagging. We're just dicussing theories.
The media covering DJT's possible reinstatement is unintentionally planting mental movies into the public's minds. The more they cover it, the more emotionally real it becomes to people.
AUGUST IT IS
‘The 25th Amendment... will come back to haunt (Biden)’ -45
Just wait til they start debating whether he can run for a 3rd term because his 2nd term was interrupted.
i think all of us here have this hope and maybe some other ppl are more certain....i cant get my head wrapped around DJT being re-instated...we are certainly in unprecedented waters but i just cannot picture it happening :(
I have a difficult time seeing Trump getting ushered back in the WH without an election but think of all of the things that have happened in the last year that if someone said they would happen before they did almost anyone would call them a conspiracy nut. We are in unprecedented times and the old rulebook has been thrown in the trash.
To be honest, it's really hard for me to picture it either. But these very recent happenings and media stories have been the closest to letting me "picture it."
Maybe it comes down to learning style or something. Most of the Pompeo tweet connections did nothing for me.
Here we actually do seem to be seeing the two major camps at least try to out bluff each other.
Oh and if it does really happen, I think it would have to be something like:
Biden --> Biden forced to resign --> interim military government -- > Trump.
But of course, my guess is as good as anyone's.