Does anyone know of any real arguments Q might not be real? All I seem to hear is retarded shit like "Q's predictions have never come true" from cunts who don't even know what it is
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No one can argue against Q that has actually looked into Q.
Agreed. I have yet to read a debunking of Q that has actually quoted even a single Q post.
What gets debunked, 99+% of the time is an anons hypothesis/ datefagging that passes and therefore Q is a LARP.
If anything, I'm seeing more proof of Q being legit since Biden installed than what was found during Trumps admin. In that during Trump it took some real digging to answer the questions initially, but now the answers come at us without the questions.
Yeah, what do you mean by "real"? Like, is it a person? Irrelevant. Whatever it is, be it a person, a group of people, an AI, a psyop etc... it showed people a different way of analytical thinking. Sometimes I feel like I learned a new skill, that I can apply anywhere, even in work.
Yeah this is what i'm getting at ;) all this movement is is the search for truth.
So they enemy exposed their own crimes? Sounds logical.
Q is a PSYOP, a white PSYOP. There is no denying that Q is a psychological operation in part.
Vs black
Rule number one to be here. Must believe in Q. Must dig n research for yourself. Deportation canons are hungry
You make it sound like a religion. Not helpful. People need to understand that the Q posts had two functions:
+To mislead the bad guys so that they made hasty and inappropriate decisions.
+To make people think and do their own research.
You could argue that there was a third function, which was to provide proof that Q knew things in advance and that Q communicated with Trump. That comes under the heading of "Q proofs", which wasn't really important other than to satisfy those who needed some sort of confirmation. But really it was a distraction.
Define real?
The Main Street media knows it’s real.
I believe not even the libtards think: Q is not real; anymore.
Honest answer.
From my end, it’s not about proving that Q is not real. It’s about proving Q is real. You can’t prove a negative.
You guys believe the worst case scenario is that Q is a psyop designed to pacify you and prevent you from taking kinetic action to preserve Trump’s Presidency.
I think it’s worse.
I think Q is a nobody. Just some internet troll among the thousands who were claiming to Be Somebody Important and know The Truth.
I don’t think he’s part of any plan to pacify you. I don’t think he had any more plan than to say stuff on the internet and enjoy the attention.
I’ve been reading Q’s stuff since his first posts on 8chan, and to date, I have not seen a single post that was impossible to have been written by a 20 year old nobody. Which is the same reason I think he stopped posting. Because he really doesn’t want to be identified as a 20 year old nobody by people as passionate as you.
The single greatest thing you can do to start your Great Awakening is to unmask Q and prove that he even has the capability of accessing top secret information. If you could at the very least prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that Q MUST be a high level intelligence agent or military operative, Q’s credibility might actually be enough for nonbelievers to spend time reading his stuff.
The greatest red pill will be proof that Q is who he claims to be. Without that, nothing he says matters to nonbelievers whatsoever.
Because so far, I have not seen the smoking gun post that literally could not have been written by a bored teenager, which is the primary reason that despite me being in this community longer than many of you, I am not a believer.
Certainly not denying it's not exactly out of the ordinary. But it was still called as a matter of fact with no reference to any other number like 52-48 51-49 or otherwise. But, like I said, it's one of many.
Another one, search up Barcelona on any of the sites. Don't have the post off hand. Keep in mind that it's the city where Mc Cafe was being held. I'd like to provide links but not in a position to do that rn. Either way, they're out there. Look at the bottom right portion of the screen and read that it makes reference to bIacktriangIe right next to the bigger message. Note the time this was posted and then have a gander at what Mc Cafe wears on his finger.
Again, there's more.
Search up 53-47 Senate. Note the year. Then look up who said it first. It's been posted since 2018ish. That's one of many, but am big tired atm.
Take a look at a timeline of the Senate.
https://www.senate.gov/history/partydiv.htm
When was the last time either party had more than 55 seats? It’s been a while.
Q pointing to the top of the bell curve is not really an impressive prediction. Almost every political analyst on the planet has been accurately predicting somewhere between 45-55 and 55-45 breakdown since the 80’s.
All it means is that Q is either a news junkie who was relating someone else’s predictions, or dabbles in his own political analysis. But it’s not a skill that requires top secret credentials or a knowledge of some secret plan. It just requires someone with a television with a cable news connection.
Now, if he had predicted a 60-40 split, or a 70-30, or a 17-83, then there would definitely be something to consider. But not a prediction that involves just pointing at the top of the bell curve.
The entire Q operation is a resounding success thus far. There is no more need for new posts. Q can fade away because the effort to instruct the People on how to question the Government and Press has been sufficiently achieved to the aims of the counter-insurgency. We act autonomously now, without need for the Q mentorship.
It is fair to view it all as a pacification effort, but that's not a bad thing. In fact, it is intentional.
Please read fully the following Q post and linked manual. It will address literally all your doubts into Q's authenticity.
https://qalerts.app/?n=4008
The Q operation's mission is a part of the COIN Counter Insurgency Guidelines. Emphasis on page 17 onwards, detailing the Intelligence flow (watch the water).
The goals are to enforce national pride and trust in the Government(Military), prevent domestic uprisings through the insurgents' use of divisive propaganda tactics and tribalism, secure a solid economic state, and create a team that can quickly and effectively counter disinformation read "The Information Contest" on page 21 as soon as it is spun by the Media.
The Military has chosen the population-centric approach to avoid open bloodshed as much as possible.
Trust in Legislature and Judiciaries is at an all time low, but trust in Military and police pre-Covid was at an all time high under Trump.
An insurgency REQUIRES a push back from the population to work. If they can't muster up "white supremacist" groups to support their narrative and confront ANTIFA in an all-out street war, they lose.
The Counter-Insurgency requires a passive population so the Military can act freely without shooting the people they are sworn to protect.
So what part of this Q drop is supposed to make me no longer doubt that Q is a high level government operative?
Literally everything he says in that post is rehashing the document he cited, which is publicly available.
This is a book report over something he read. I am teaching students right now who are writing exactly this type of thing.
I’m not sure how this proves what you claim. All it proves is that he likes reading government documents about warfare, which is true of 95% of GAW.
Q is literally giving you the playbook that made the operation.
Q is a small aspect of the intelligence arm of the Counter Insurgency taking place under the US Military heads' jurisdiction.
What Q is doing checks all the boxes in the COIN method of increasing faith in the government and establishing a group that is trained to quickly get on top of the Propaganda Media.
I can tell you didn't bother to read the guidelines, because Q is tracking with this section exactly:
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The ONLY way the Military could effectively succeed in the battle for narrative control is to create a massive thinktank that could counter the Media's narrative supremacy faster than they can spin lies up. There is not enough money in the world to do that, even if they could keep the thinktank hidden and safe from spying insurgents.
Enter Q.
The Q Operation is a grass-roots/crowdsourced thinktank used to counter Propaganda narrative shifts and to disseminate the Truth and whittle apart the lies.
The only group you can target that has the abilities, tools, and wherewithal to take down the Media's Propaganda are shitposters.
Enter Anons/Autists.
The cover of anonymity on boards like 4Chan and 8kun allowed for uncontrollable passage of ideas. By recruiting this group, and giving them a literal game/puzzle to solve, Q conditioned them psychologically to find reward in taking down Propaganda lies.
Q is a Military Operation, plain and simple. The strategy has been used before, but never domestically, at least to this scale. Probable deniability is essential in protecting all parties involved, and is used extensively. That you are questioning if Q is real or not is the greatest defense Q has, and is a necessary component of the Counter Insurgency. The Government must look like they are in control, not the Counter Insurgents.
If the Media could prove 100% Q is real and that Flynn or Trump are responsible for the Operation would immediately be able to claim their victory -- being able to levy charges against Patriots under pretenses of a coup. There is a fine line between Insurgent and Counter Insurgent, and domestic fights heavily muddy those waters.
If you can't see it after reading through the guidelines and piecing it together, then guess what...
You don't have to.
The Operation is a success, Anons autonomously act to counter Propaganda as they were trained to do, Q no longer needs to post, and the People of the United States are swelling with Patriotism in a way never before seen.
Read the manual through, and you'll know. We won.
The population-centric approach has worked. The Insurgency is over. There is no way they can reverse the Patriotism and support of the Nation. They can't work fast enough to divide us. There are too many hands against them.
It's over. The DeepState is dead.
Q being a LARP is FAR TOO EFFECTIVE for it to be a guy in his basement. Had there been no Q, we would not have this swell of Patriotism and anti-Propaganda sentiment in the common population. Admit it, even if a LARP, it has been overwhelmingly positive for the fate of our Nation.
I am reading every word you say and understanding it.
But I don’t think you’re understanding me.
You’re telling me what you believe to be true, because you accept Q is who he claims to be.
What I’m asking for is proof positive, undeniable, that Q is actually this intelligence arm that you believe he is.
I understand that IF I believe Q is doing these things, then this is how I would interpret Q’s posts.
But if you’re like me and the majority of other people, you haven’t accepted yet that Q is the intelligence entity that he claims he is. So the narrative you’re delivering doesn’t make much of an impact, because you haven’t yet proven the foundation of the argument, which is that Q is who he claims to be.
Paraphrasing a publicly-available government document on counterinsurgencies isn’t proof of that.
If, say, he was paraphrasing and then leaking to us for our own verification a highly classified intelligence document that is then in some way validated by the agency he leaked it from, THAT would be evidence that Q actually has info that nobody else does.
Has anything like that happened without me noticing ?
I can’t simply accept that Q is an unverifiable agent and that the inability to verify his credentials is proof that he’s real. That’s a non-falsifiable claim. That’s a strategy that only works when discussing God, and I don’t think Q is God.
If that did happen, the Operation would have been a failure. People's lives are on the line.
What we got are proofs; numerous time-sensitive cases of probable deniability that, when taken all together indicate a statistical impossibility that it is simply coincidence.
Honestly, what more can I do to convince you? Probably nothing, because you're not willing to be convinced by anyone other than yourself. Which leaves you with one option:
Read through the first 2500 Q posts.
That section of time has the largest volume of proof events. The sheer volume of "happy coincidence" events coinciding with Trump's Twitter feed is shocking.
In summation...
Effectively, you're asking me to explain in detail the proofs in something as extensive as the Old Testament which indicate it is based on real historic events without having actually read the Old Testament AND also not even bothering to look at alternate sources of History as well. Which leaves me with no foundation to begin making connections.
In other words, no matter HOW I phrase it, your lack of prerequisite knowledge in the matter means you'll never be able to make the connections. If you continue to not read what is absolutely required to understand just how extensively Q has been proven, I can't help you. There's a term for that state of mind and it's called willful ignorance.
Let me try to help you understand this way.
I am absolutely certain the sun is actually an alien egg, and the alien inside is controlling our minds and making people homosexual, and the only way to save us is to blow it up.
You’d call me a lunatic.
I would say it makes perfect sense, as long as you read my fifteen hundred pages of vague prophecies and decode messages sent by the alien’s thralls. You need to read it to understand, and if you don’t, then you’re being fucking ignorant and it’s not my fault.
You’d call me a lunatic, and ask why you should invest literally any time in proving my theory by reading my resource.
If I’m just a nameless person, you ignore me and move on with your life.
If it turns out I’m an astrophysicist who specializes in solar science, you’d still think I’m a lunatic, but you might be interested in seeing if I could prove what I’m saying and read my sources.
If I claim to be an astrophysicist but I have to stay hidden and can’t prove it because otherwise the Sun Alien will kill me, you would ignore me and move on with your life.
That’s what Q is for nonbelievers. Instead of a Sun Egg Alien, you are telling me that Trump and a nameless internet phantom are responsible for fighting an international cabal of pedophilic vampires, and it makes some sense if I just accept that as the truth and then read all your sources and try to make the same connections.
I might be willing to entertain that if Q is who he claims to be. But if I can’t prove it, then I assume he’s just another random guy ranting about sun aliens. And there are a million of them, and Q hasn’t distinguished himself with actual proof that he is who he says he is.
So most people just ignore it and move on.
If you can’t prove that Q is the astrophysicist in my analogy, then that’s the likely fate of any Great Awakening. People ignoring it, because nobody besides GAW accepts that Q is who he claims to be.
Does that help? The first step is always to verify who is talking to you. If you can’t do that, you can’t (and shouldn’t) trust a single word you hear. And I can’t verify who Q is or what his credentials are yet.
You're talking to the wrong dude for that line of thought, my friend.
I'll read/investigate just about anything, no matter how asinine it might seem at its premise. I'm of the "include all angles, regardless of where they originate, and eliminate the fallacies" camp.
No one should be happy settling on the knowledge they have. If you stop learning, you stop living, and you don't know what you don't know.
My name is accurate in more way than one. I'm always half asleep, both physically and psychologically, which allows me to explore the craziest notions and not get too attached. Most of my family, as I have come to find out, do not have this filter and I've now learned to be careful in sharing the more insane theories I read because they begin to think that I think they are real.
As far as Q goes, I think the primary conflict with your understanding is this:
I'm trying to show you WHAT Q is.
You want to know WHO Q is.
The latter will likely never come to pass, so your disappointment will be perpetual.
If you want hard proofs, without doing the work yourself, there are tons of videos compiling them all.
Is that what you want?
This one and its sequel convinced me that it wasn't just mere coincidence: https://www.bitchute.com/video/4cQc9X9l0a5Y/
If you won't read it from the horses mouth, and you won't watch the above, and you won't look look at what I've provided in retrospect, then I can't help you.
Which is the problem, really. Normies just can't think like autists. Some brains just can't put the pieces together without it being spelled out for them, I guess. Some people can solve picture mazes by sight alone, and some people can't. No one is to blame, it's just how it is.
And the unique photos taken from AF1 ?
There have been multiple photos that people claimed were unique that turned out to be ripped from someone’s unknown Photobucket account. Remember George News?
It’s extremely difficult to prove uniqueness of photos on the age of the internet. There are almost certainly thousands upon thousands of photos of Trump you’ve never seen squirreled away in people’s private albums. Doesn’t mean the person who took them was anyone special.
I promise that if there are vampire pedophiles running the world and eating our children and controlling the weather and poisoning people with a vaccine, I absolutely want to know.
Vampires is sort of a colloquialism. The whole, “drinking the hormones harvested from human children to stay healthy and young” feels a lot like a modern day take on vampires, who drink human blood to stay healthy and young.
Vampires are an overt manifestation of society's collective subconscious. They know the banks and global elites are draining us dry, and that it's done through careful, meticulous planning, but they just can't face what it all means and how hard it is to understand and to even begin changing it all.
Definitely real. In complete control? Still waiting on that proof. Vaxxed people, presidents, and good guys getting punished and dying. Still waiting on the Twitter message from Trump “The storm is upon us” Hopeful but only depending on God so far.
Q NEVER EVER said the twitter message would be from Trump. Reread the post. Its misinformation like that that gives the movement a black eye. My fellow Americans can literally be said by any citizen to another. At this point my money is on pompeo sending out that tweet. Hes still active on Twitter. Think back to his sons tweet how proud he was of dad and nobody else knows be he knows who his dad is and he couldnt be more proud of him. At this point people need to go back in and reread posts. A fresh perspective on them is necessary for all.
Remember when Trump retweeted a photo from an account reading
WE ARE THE CALM BEFORE, DURING, AND AFTER THE STORM.
Captioning it with “STRENGTH!”
And within minutes Twitter took down the original post?
And then Q confirmed “trolling can be fun!”
Keep in mind, Trump is the one who originally said
CALM BEFORE THE STORM
and kicked this thing off.
He knows what he was retweeting, and he knows the implications of said tweet and what it means to the Q movement.
There is definitely something going on. I do think it's possible Q could be a black hat operation to keep patriots from actually fighting but I do think this possibility is small.
There have been some ridiculous predictions. For example, the cabal had puppeted north korea. In addition, there was an undeclared ware between the cabal and the good guys including firing missiles at seattle and airforce one. If you think about it logically for a minute both of these are preposterous suppositions. Second, its anonymous internet postings without any kind of documentary back up. Lots of predictions for arrests and trials that never occurred. Bill barr as the stealth bomber? Come on.
if Q were fake, the media wouldnt be atrack anons 24/7
This poster seems like a shill to gather info and Great Awakening names of posters and their replies/comments! Now I add my name to 'their' list! [They're coming for us, folks...]
There is no argument. It's not for anyone to convince anyone else. They need to dig n research for themselves . That is the key. They are lazy n closed minded sheep. They want to know? Tell them dig n research n think for themselves.
That's the Anon way.
Qis real, because we see it and can read it. The Question isn't whether it's real or not, but whether it's relevant or bullshit.
Can't be debunked.... being directed to do your own research on important topics is a good thing.
There is no fucking possibility Q would be fake.Too many coincidences,and nobody who researched it ever a bit can claim it is fake.Simply. Only thing to be concerned about Q is the possibility of Q being deep state PSYOP against us to make us not active.
But about those thing all people here could have simple solution: having backup plan in case shit hits the fan.
So hope and pray for the best,and be prepared for the worst - to not risk too big cost.
As those ancient Chinese bastard Sun Tzu said:
and:
PS: And if anybody would say that is dooming - shut the fuck up,and read again things those ancient Chinese motherfucker strategist said ! There is no man without doubt,there is no man who wouldn't panic. But our duty is to stand up and win.To save the children and to save our fucking future,to save our families and ourself. Whatever happens.
Sole purpose I mention those dooming scenario is simple:
So if anybody is scared that military wouldn't come - fear not, rather be ready to spit on devil and his servants be ready do the job yourself with holy fury.
By the almighty God - Nothing Can Stop What is Coming - and that also means: Nothing Can Save Wicked Idiotic Cabal. Nothing.
Whatever would happen : WE. SHALL. WIN. Because there is no only Q plan,there is also plan of almighty GOD.And we are on his and his justice side.
Q and Trump are bound at the hip like Siamese twins. There are enough proofs to show this is true. No other conclusion can be reached if you go through the first 2500 Q posts. They are working together. Period.
The only instance where Q is a psyop would also mean Trump has been working with the DeepState Cabal from they very start and is a double-agent and a false prophet.
This "Q is a Cabal run psyop" theory is very objectionable, however, because of the ACTUAL and DEVASTATING gains Trump and his team have had against the DeepState. There are some victories that are far too damaging to the Global Elite that they cannot be overlooked as calculated sacrifices.
What puts a final nail in the coffin that Q and Trump are both Cabal, is their emphasis on Prayer, Christianity, and Anti-Satanic overtones. If you take the religious aspect seriously, none can invoke the name of Jesus Christ and still gain favor from Satan.
Philippians 2:10-11
"10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth, 11 and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father."
Satanists cannot cross that line, which is why even though it is in his best interest to coerce Christian Democrats, Biden cannot play the religious card and praise Jesus as openly as Trump.
I'm convinced he's possessed (or at least he thinks he is) and doing so would excise the demon.
One thing I keep telling my relatives about the Satanic-worship allegations is this:
Well said