To the mods credit, I have been allowed to stay as someone who is openly not a Q believer.
Now, I'm not sure if anyone else has gotten that privilege, but I haven't been banned yet.
However, I have said before that if only 4-6% of people will never wake up, then this site should open the fucking floodgates. For every 100 shills, 94-96 of them will leave here Awakened after seeing the evidence, if Q is right. You'd literally be a Great Awakening unto yourself.
Confirmed. The sidebar is law. Yes this WIN is for "Q believers," but that rule is directed towards shills. This guy is open about his beliefs and is clearly looking for solid evidence (even though I feel there's plenty to go around). Be respectful, be civil, that's all we ask.
Just out of curiosity, why do you think the media and all social media churns out thousands of intensely negative, anti-Q articles, desperately straining and striving to get you to not put any credence in it?
Doesn't it seem even a little bit obvious to you that, when the deepstate, CIA, media, social media and left-wing zealots are vehemently, even insanely opposed to something and willing to lie endlessly about it, then it must be real—and GOOD for America?
Well, I don’t accept the position that I am obligated to take any position on any issue just because someone I disagree with, or even find evil, takes the opposing side.
I would never give someone that much control over what I believe, especially someone that I don’t trust.
So no, I will not consider the Q movement valid based solely on the mainstream media taking the position that the Q movement is nonsense.
I will also not take the position that the Earth is flat simply because Q believes the Earth is round.
Because again, it’s absurd to give anyone, especially the MSM, that much power over what you believe is true about reality.
If you’re going to ask me to defend Clinton, you’ll want to find someone else. I’d put money down that despite my vehement opposition to Trump, I probably put more words out against Clinton in 2016 than anyone on this board. I do not care for her.
Well, I don’t accept the position that I am obligated to take any position on any issue just because someone I disagree with, or even find evil, takes the opposing side.
It's not about obligation. It's about common sense.
Anything the lying media are breathlessly shrieking about being evil is obviously very threatening to them. Therefore it is, in all likelihood, good for America.
Taking a position just because the media is saying otherwise makes you just as easily manipulated as if you were taking a position just because the media says to do so.
The trick to critical thinking is to not assume anything.
Perhaps the media does lie and twist the truth. What that means is that you look at every one of their claims critically. Some of it might be the truth. Some of it might not be. Critical thinking is to assume you don’t know, and to evaluate the claim from a neutral position.
If you’ve already decided the outcome based entirely on your assumption about the source, then you aren’t thinking critically. You’re just letting yourself be manipulated in the opposing direction of the sheep. Which is still being manipulated.
You can never forget, either, that just because a person posts here and considers themselves a "Q follower," that still doesn't mean they're awake. You can look at everyone in a thread, and quickly see that they all draw different conclusions.
That's because it's guesstimation, research that may or may not be influenced by negligence or confirmation bias, and entirely subject to the perspective of those in the same room.
There is nothing more valuable, however, than when everyone in the same room (here) draws the same, exact picture. It happens outside of these .Win sites, even on reddit, for those with beliefs the polar opposite of those here. Simple news reports affirm what people here collectively say for weeks - "Future proves past."
Like bread, the truth must sit in the oven until done. How long it takes, when you know neither the temperature of the oven nor the time it takes for the bread to cook - that's the factor of uncertainty every Q Follower must deal with. Likewise, the cause itself is noble:
We all want to see an end of the oppression of the American working class at the hands of a merger of Corporate and Government oligarchs - rather than turning to failed ideologies like Marxism, Democratic Socialism, and racial nationalism - the majority of those here believe that experts, who themselves elected to side with good, seek to abolish this system of servitude that threatens our liberties, our livelihoods, and our way of life.
If we're right - enjoy the privilege of moderating what will become a fantastic oven. Once they're in, they'll never be out.
I assume that 4-6% number is for after the hard evidence that covid was all a scam to enrich the elite, restrict liberties, and fraud an election. This is obvious to anyone paying attention, but if the public at large became aware of this they would unite against a common enemy.
I did get a couple of bans, but I think that was when a particular mod that has since relinquished their powers was going on a ban hammer spree.
I think after August and nothing happens, it will be unrealistic to expect zero anti-Q discourse. There is a fine line between presenting your argument and stance logically, which should be encouraged versus those who come here from Patriots and elsewhere to troll.
I myself have zero reason to trust some secret open plan that I am not involved with. At least not directly. However the Hopium runs rich here. Real hopium like Wins of the Day and general information that you will not find anywhere else. Even if Q is just an idea that lit a fire in those of us to come together and fight against this evil, then it has done more than enough. That said, however, if there is a Q plan... any day now would be appreciated. No I don't think we have to go to the exact precipice, this is high enough.
I’ve said before and I’ll say again: either I am way, way wrong, or Q believers are way, way wrong.
And neither of us believes we’re wrong.
But if I’m wrong, I lose nothing but a little face. Q people can rub it in forever that they were smarter than me, but as I’m not a pedophile, I really have nothing to worry about if Q is real.
So I have no problem waiting for the Plan. Whether Q shows up or not, I am going to be just fine in that world.
I am not certain that most Q people can make the same claim, which is why I think people are distrustful of me being here. Quite simply, every Q believer has a lot more to lose if they’re wrong than I do.
I don't think we have anything to lose except what many of us will have to do, if there is no plan. The Plan and belief in Q are what keeps some in check, including myself. I will wait patiently as long as possible, but there is a point where I will wait no longer. I hope and pray that when it starts, I will not be alone, but if I am, I will not stop until I can no longer continue, and that will be the end of my story. I pray for peace, but I'll give everything I've got for Freedom.
Not quite. If Q is correct, you lose your illusions. If Q is incorrect, we lose our illusions. The loss is equal. The only difference is that it would not be our first rodeo.
The illusions you are going to lose, we already lost those.
Its going to hurt you a lot more to lose yours. We could be wrong and it changes nothing for us, dogged pursuit of the truth will continue, regardless of what develops, we validate, we invalidate, we press forward -- and unfortunately for normie reality widespread individual self-interest didn't build this machine accidentally. 3 things:
Social Engineering is very real and ongoing. The intent can be measured by the result. Highly collaborative across too many industries and sectors.
Too much unchecked corruption across too many industries and sectors -- including, and especially law.
To be fair, you guys don’t give us a lot of credit for what we’re capable of imagining.
I absolutely believe there are rich pedophiles that get away with it and should be brought to justice.
Where you start to lose me is with Q himself and the belief that Donald Trump is leading some shadow group in hidden, genius moves against a cabal and so forth.
We agree on the general problems. Nobody has any illusions that the media can distort the truth and manipulate us. We agree that rich criminals get away with things. We agree that politicians lie through their teeth.
We get it. We just don’t buy the story that Trump isn’t an exemplification of these problems rather than some mastermind against them.
So I respectfully disagree. I would not melt if Q turned out to be correct about everything. I would be surprised that I underestimated Trump, but that’s it. I’d reevaluate and move on with my life and be glad someone as apparently capable as Trump is handling it.
And that is really not a terrifying future. Which is why I’m not really afraid of you guys being right whatsoever. I just do not believe that you are.
which is why I think people are distrustful of me being here
Well I think the flare doesn't help either.
Anyway, what others contingent on the plan have to come to terms with is putting so much faith in a plan that may or may not be real. Rationally speaking, even if the plan was 100% foolproof undeniable, it would still be foolish to trust that it will carry out perfectly as intended. The Q plan, in reality is many different plans happening all at once. Moves and counter moves. People need to also accept that fact that the good guys can in fact lose. That nothing is assured until it occurs. Is Trump gonna be reinstated? Maybe. But we won't know until it happens.
If we're still saying "trust the plan" in the start of 2022, then it's long past time to start making your own plans. Most people here, however seem to grasp and understand that and I think at the end of the day, all of us, yourself included just want a resolution to all of this BS with the least amount of casualties. I think if push comes to shove and things need to go hot, that we'll do what needs to be done... albeit begrudgingly.
To the mods credit, I have been allowed to stay as someone who is openly not a Q believer.
Now, I'm not sure if anyone else has gotten that privilege, but I haven't been banned yet.
However, I have said before that if only 4-6% of people will never wake up, then this site should open the fucking floodgates. For every 100 shills, 94-96 of them will leave here Awakened after seeing the evidence, if Q is right. You'd literally be a Great Awakening unto yourself.
Confirmed. The sidebar is law. Yes this WIN is for "Q believers," but that rule is directed towards shills. This guy is open about his beliefs and is clearly looking for solid evidence (even though I feel there's plenty to go around). Be respectful, be civil, that's all we ask.
Just out of curiosity, why do you think the media and all social media churns out thousands of intensely negative, anti-Q articles, desperately straining and striving to get you to not put any credence in it?
Doesn't it seem even a little bit obvious to you that, when the deepstate, CIA, media, social media and left-wing zealots are vehemently, even insanely opposed to something and willing to lie endlessly about it, then it must be real—and GOOD for America?
Well, I don’t accept the position that I am obligated to take any position on any issue just because someone I disagree with, or even find evil, takes the opposing side.
I would never give someone that much control over what I believe, especially someone that I don’t trust.
So no, I will not consider the Q movement valid based solely on the mainstream media taking the position that the Q movement is nonsense.
I will also not take the position that the Earth is flat simply because Q believes the Earth is round.
Because again, it’s absurd to give anyone, especially the MSM, that much power over what you believe is true about reality.
Just curious. What is your position on the Clinton email leaks?
Ha. Which ones?
If you’re going to ask me to defend Clinton, you’ll want to find someone else. I’d put money down that despite my vehement opposition to Trump, I probably put more words out against Clinton in 2016 than anyone on this board. I do not care for her.
It's not about obligation. It's about common sense.
Anything the lying media are breathlessly shrieking about being evil is obviously very threatening to them. Therefore it is, in all likelihood, good for America.
Taking a position just because the media is saying otherwise makes you just as easily manipulated as if you were taking a position just because the media says to do so.
The trick to critical thinking is to not assume anything.
Perhaps the media does lie and twist the truth. What that means is that you look at every one of their claims critically. Some of it might be the truth. Some of it might not be. Critical thinking is to assume you don’t know, and to evaluate the claim from a neutral position.
If you’ve already decided the outcome based entirely on your assumption about the source, then you aren’t thinking critically. You’re just letting yourself be manipulated in the opposing direction of the sheep. Which is still being manipulated.
You can never forget, either, that just because a person posts here and considers themselves a "Q follower," that still doesn't mean they're awake. You can look at everyone in a thread, and quickly see that they all draw different conclusions.
That's because it's guesstimation, research that may or may not be influenced by negligence or confirmation bias, and entirely subject to the perspective of those in the same room.
There is nothing more valuable, however, than when everyone in the same room (here) draws the same, exact picture. It happens outside of these .Win sites, even on reddit, for those with beliefs the polar opposite of those here. Simple news reports affirm what people here collectively say for weeks - "Future proves past."
Like bread, the truth must sit in the oven until done. How long it takes, when you know neither the temperature of the oven nor the time it takes for the bread to cook - that's the factor of uncertainty every Q Follower must deal with. Likewise, the cause itself is noble:
We all want to see an end of the oppression of the American working class at the hands of a merger of Corporate and Government oligarchs - rather than turning to failed ideologies like Marxism, Democratic Socialism, and racial nationalism - the majority of those here believe that experts, who themselves elected to side with good, seek to abolish this system of servitude that threatens our liberties, our livelihoods, and our way of life.
If we're right - enjoy the privilege of moderating what will become a fantastic oven. Once they're in, they'll never be out.
I assume that 4-6% number is for after the hard evidence that covid was all a scam to enrich the elite, restrict liberties, and fraud an election. This is obvious to anyone paying attention, but if the public at large became aware of this they would unite against a common enemy.
I did get a couple of bans, but I think that was when a particular mod that has since relinquished their powers was going on a ban hammer spree.
I think after August and nothing happens, it will be unrealistic to expect zero anti-Q discourse. There is a fine line between presenting your argument and stance logically, which should be encouraged versus those who come here from Patriots and elsewhere to troll.
I myself have zero reason to trust some secret open plan that I am not involved with. At least not directly. However the Hopium runs rich here. Real hopium like Wins of the Day and general information that you will not find anywhere else. Even if Q is just an idea that lit a fire in those of us to come together and fight against this evil, then it has done more than enough. That said, however, if there is a Q plan... any day now would be appreciated. No I don't think we have to go to the exact precipice, this is high enough.
I’ve said before and I’ll say again: either I am way, way wrong, or Q believers are way, way wrong.
And neither of us believes we’re wrong.
But if I’m wrong, I lose nothing but a little face. Q people can rub it in forever that they were smarter than me, but as I’m not a pedophile, I really have nothing to worry about if Q is real.
So I have no problem waiting for the Plan. Whether Q shows up or not, I am going to be just fine in that world.
I am not certain that most Q people can make the same claim, which is why I think people are distrustful of me being here. Quite simply, every Q believer has a lot more to lose if they’re wrong than I do.
I don't think we have anything to lose except what many of us will have to do, if there is no plan. The Plan and belief in Q are what keeps some in check, including myself. I will wait patiently as long as possible, but there is a point where I will wait no longer. I hope and pray that when it starts, I will not be alone, but if I am, I will not stop until I can no longer continue, and that will be the end of my story. I pray for peace, but I'll give everything I've got for Freedom.
Not quite. If Q is correct, you lose your illusions. If Q is incorrect, we lose our illusions. The loss is equal. The only difference is that it would not be our first rodeo.
The illusions you are going to lose, we already lost those.
Its going to hurt you a lot more to lose yours. We could be wrong and it changes nothing for us, dogged pursuit of the truth will continue, regardless of what develops, we validate, we invalidate, we press forward -- and unfortunately for normie reality widespread individual self-interest didn't build this machine accidentally. 3 things:
To be fair, you guys don’t give us a lot of credit for what we’re capable of imagining.
I absolutely believe there are rich pedophiles that get away with it and should be brought to justice.
Where you start to lose me is with Q himself and the belief that Donald Trump is leading some shadow group in hidden, genius moves against a cabal and so forth.
We agree on the general problems. Nobody has any illusions that the media can distort the truth and manipulate us. We agree that rich criminals get away with things. We agree that politicians lie through their teeth.
We get it. We just don’t buy the story that Trump isn’t an exemplification of these problems rather than some mastermind against them.
So I respectfully disagree. I would not melt if Q turned out to be correct about everything. I would be surprised that I underestimated Trump, but that’s it. I’d reevaluate and move on with my life and be glad someone as apparently capable as Trump is handling it.
And that is really not a terrifying future. Which is why I’m not really afraid of you guys being right whatsoever. I just do not believe that you are.
Well I think the flare doesn't help either.
Anyway, what others contingent on the plan have to come to terms with is putting so much faith in a plan that may or may not be real. Rationally speaking, even if the plan was 100% foolproof undeniable, it would still be foolish to trust that it will carry out perfectly as intended. The Q plan, in reality is many different plans happening all at once. Moves and counter moves. People need to also accept that fact that the good guys can in fact lose. That nothing is assured until it occurs. Is Trump gonna be reinstated? Maybe. But we won't know until it happens.
If we're still saying "trust the plan" in the start of 2022, then it's long past time to start making your own plans. Most people here, however seem to grasp and understand that and I think at the end of the day, all of us, yourself included just want a resolution to all of this BS with the least amount of casualties. I think if push comes to shove and things need to go hot, that we'll do what needs to be done... albeit begrudgingly.
Fascinating read. What is the point and context of sharing it here?