What kind of idiotic comparison, this is not an ' everyday visit ' or thing, this is a bioweapon, we are in fucking war, wake up.
Think if someone in your family went there to take the jab (THAT IS A BIOWEAPON NOT A REGOULAR VAX! AND THEY DON'T KNOW THIS.) and you got afraid for his/her life, only after a while, when people starts to drop around, you get to know that person has been injected with a placebo and it's safe
doctors are telling people they're getting a vaccine but giving an experimental gene therapy instead, I'm not sure how this is different from your example.. are you agreeing with us?
Informed consent is different from deceiving a patient. The bait and switch is what I have a problem with. Instead if she had provided the patients information about the vaccine and allowed them to make up their own mind, I would not have a problem. The deception is the issue.
can you really give informed consent if you have a family to support and your job or government requires injecting unknown substances into your body to keep that job? I don't think so, and big pharma doesn't disclose or have liability. the problem with your analogy is saline is 100% proven to be safe, and used as a placebo. Removing a kidney is obviously not, nor are experimental drugs.
Big pharma has not given information to people such that they can make an informed decision. I agree with you on that. People that are more or less being forced to choose between their job and their health freedom have been placed in a terrible position, everyone should have the choice.
The saline is safe, yes, but it was not what the patients agreed to be injected with. Its a moral issue. Am issue of deceiving someone whom you are supposed to trust. If I go to get a tetanus shot and they give me a flu vaccine instead, I'd be pretty angry, it was not what I asked for. This is my issue, not that the saline was safe or not, but that she deceived her patients.
So because they won't know the difference, it doesn't matter that they were decieved? If someone lies to me, I need to know, so that I do not trust that person any longer. I refuse to not learn from mistakes.
You can justify this saying we are at war and all options should be on the table, but we are talking about our fellow human beings. We are supposed to be coming together, not deceiving. How do you think these people will view this nurse and people like us after they find out they were deceived. Do you think they will now have any chance to be convinced to come to our side? (yes j know they probably wouldn't since they were already getting the shot, but what if the nurse had given them jnfo or warnings ahead of giving the shot, rather than just deceiving them?)
Tell me genius, how does she tell them it's poison? They'll fire her and she wouldn't have saved 8k plus lives. Medicine already barely heals anybody and they clearly kill millions. Informed consent lmfao, nobody has ever had informed consent based on the facts when it comes to this fake vax.
Us is the members of this board, patriots, the q movement, those that want America to once again be the shining light in the world. Those that want to root out and destroy the rot and corruption.
Have you been to a hospital in the last few years? They no longer tell you what they're doing or ask permission before sticking shit in your arm/injecting shit into you.
I had to stop a nurse and ask her what she was giving me last time I went because she said nothing, wiped down my arm, and just pulled out a needle. Same thing when they were hooking me up to an IV.
Shockadee, your point is valid, and I agree with you that, of course, I wouldn’t want a medical professional performing (or in this case, not performing) a procedure.
However, there’s a rare exception to everything, and in this case I’d suggest the nurse has a valid argument that she’s adhering to sections 2, 3, 7, & 10 of the Nuremberg Code.
We’ve been down this road before in history. Doctors failed to uphold their Hippocratic Oath, and claimed “just following orders” and that’s why we have the Nuremberg Code.
It appears that most doctors are currently playing dumb, pretending that they have no knowledge of the danger of the shots they’re giving, to cover their ass if/when the shit really hits the fan. This nurse isn’t playing that game.
Next time you are at the doctor's, maybe they will remove a kidney without asking you? How would you feel?
What kind of idiotic comparison, this is not an ' everyday visit ' or thing, this is a bioweapon, we are in fucking war, wake up.
Think if someone in your family went there to take the jab (THAT IS A BIOWEAPON NOT A REGOULAR VAX! AND THEY DON'T KNOW THIS.) and you got afraid for his/her life, only after a while, when people starts to drop around, you get to know that person has been injected with a placebo and it's safe
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I won't even waste time to give you an answer, DFTT/S
That guy's an obvious shill. Comparing non consenting organ harvesting to effectively a placebo.
What is DTFF?
doctors are telling people they're getting a vaccine but giving an experimental gene therapy instead, I'm not sure how this is different from your example.. are you agreeing with us?
Oh yeah! A genocidal jab!
Informed consent is different from deceiving a patient. The bait and switch is what I have a problem with. Instead if she had provided the patients information about the vaccine and allowed them to make up their own mind, I would not have a problem. The deception is the issue.
can you really give informed consent if you have a family to support and your job or government requires injecting unknown substances into your body to keep that job? I don't think so, and big pharma doesn't disclose or have liability. the problem with your analogy is saline is 100% proven to be safe, and used as a placebo. Removing a kidney is obviously not, nor are experimental drugs.
Big pharma has not given information to people such that they can make an informed decision. I agree with you on that. People that are more or less being forced to choose between their job and their health freedom have been placed in a terrible position, everyone should have the choice.
The saline is safe, yes, but it was not what the patients agreed to be injected with. Its a moral issue. Am issue of deceiving someone whom you are supposed to trust. If I go to get a tetanus shot and they give me a flu vaccine instead, I'd be pretty angry, it was not what I asked for. This is my issue, not that the saline was safe or not, but that she deceived her patients.
The deception came from the ones who created the gene therapy and then called it a vaccine. THEY are the guilty ones.
Agree with those here that she is a hero, but once again, this is not “gene therapy”
I absolutely agree with this statement.
war is war bro
i commend this hero.
none of these people will even know the difference since apparently vaccinated people catch "covid" just the same as anyone else.
The vaxxed make the covid. Util the Vax there was NO covid. It was all psyops.
So because they won't know the difference, it doesn't matter that they were decieved? If someone lies to me, I need to know, so that I do not trust that person any longer. I refuse to not learn from mistakes.
You can justify this saying we are at war and all options should be on the table, but we are talking about our fellow human beings. We are supposed to be coming together, not deceiving. How do you think these people will view this nurse and people like us after they find out they were deceived. Do you think they will now have any chance to be convinced to come to our side? (yes j know they probably wouldn't since they were already getting the shot, but what if the nurse had given them jnfo or warnings ahead of giving the shot, rather than just deceiving them?)
You are seriously stupid. She saved their lives. Fuck off until you can think logically.
Yes she saved lives, while doing nothing to build trust in an industry that will soon loose all public trust.
Placebos exist
So do patients rights.
The patients in Germany do not give informed consent. And have no clue they are participating in an experiment.
Unfortunately this is the reality of most countries around the world.
Tell me genius, how does she tell them it's poison? They'll fire her and she wouldn't have saved 8k plus lives. Medicine already barely heals anybody and they clearly kill millions. Informed consent lmfao, nobody has ever had informed consent based on the facts when it comes to this fake vax.
What part of bio-weapon do you not understand? She saved a lot of lives by giving them saline instead of the death serum.
She took the patients trust in us and people that support our movement.
Us is the members of this board, patriots, the q movement, those that want America to once again be the shining light in the world. Those that want to root out and destroy the rot and corruption.
Taking my kidney versus not giving me poison. You may want to re think your bias.
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Warp Speed was a good thing
The Vax is a bioweapon
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Have you been to a hospital in the last few years? They no longer tell you what they're doing or ask permission before sticking shit in your arm/injecting shit into you.
I had to stop a nurse and ask her what she was giving me last time I went because she said nothing, wiped down my arm, and just pulled out a needle. Same thing when they were hooking me up to an IV.
"Uh, what's that?"
"It's for your IV."
"What IV?"
"We're gonna put you on an IV." 🙄
They do that in China
Do you trust Chinese doctors in China?
It is called resistance!
Shill detected, deport
nice reaction, do you treat everyone you disagree with this way?
Shockadee, your point is valid, and I agree with you that, of course, I wouldn’t want a medical professional performing (or in this case, not performing) a procedure.
However, there’s a rare exception to everything, and in this case I’d suggest the nurse has a valid argument that she’s adhering to sections 2, 3, 7, & 10 of the Nuremberg Code.
We’ve been down this road before in history. Doctors failed to uphold their Hippocratic Oath, and claimed “just following orders” and that’s why we have the Nuremberg Code.
It appears that most doctors are currently playing dumb, pretending that they have no knowledge of the danger of the shots they’re giving, to cover their ass if/when the shit really hits the fan. This nurse isn’t playing that game.
True enough, and I appreciate your well thought out response.
I have no argument against this, other than the moral issue at hand.
People downvoting but I actually agree.
If she didn't want to actually administer the treatment she should have openly refused in protest or quit.
Administering things without telling people is wrong. That's what this whole shit is about, isn't it?
The other thing is that it fucks up the stats.
And, if people went there to get the vax, they'll just go get it again anyway.
I think her intentions were purest, but that doesn't change that what she did was a mistake.
Such valuable insight....