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Wondering about the effectiveness of taking Quercetin and zinc as a prophylactic as there is no source of ivermectin and HCQ in Canada? Would love to hear from anyone with expertise or experience as to whether effective.
posted 4 years ago by CanuckGop 4 years ago by CanuckGop +31 / -0

Thanks in advance.

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– Windows8866 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

Y’all still have horses up there? You can find ivermectin in horse deworming paste. Sold here in farm supply stores. Last time I was in Canada y’all still had beautiful farms too.

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– pepewarrior0102 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I've heard that you should put it all into a container and mix it around, since the medicine supposedly is sometimes concentrated at one end of the tube. (Not an endorsement)

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– Slyver 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

That is excellent. Add vitamin D and you should be set.

I don't know for sure if you can in Canada, but in America you can get Ivermectin for animals on Amazon, or just about any farm store.

The dosage for that paste is ~1/12 of a tube per 100lbs body weight per dose. For that brand there are notches on the tube plunger, so two notches is one dose per 100lbs body weight (Just stick your thumbnail or a knife edge in the appropriate notch and push the plunger). For higher weight use more notches, e.g. 150lbs use 3 notches per dose, 200lbs 4 notches, etc.

If you push out too much, don't fret. It is well tolerated, so even a relatively large variance in dosage won't do you harm according to the data I've seen on it.

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– crazycloud2 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

There is a twisty thing on the notched plunger. You set it for the notches you want then turn it to stop the plunger at the right amount.

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– Slyver 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Haha, oh shit.

I'm an idiot...

Thank you!

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– AroomaNuminahh 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Dear OP, I have nothing to offer that hasn't already been posted. I just want to say that we STILL love you guys & gals from north of our northern border. You all have ALWAYS been our closest allies - especially when we were in trouble (and I'm talking about how you took care of our people on 9/11). I will continue to pray for Canada and the wonderful people I know from there. I hope to come see you some time when better days are back again. Please take good care of yourself and be especially kind to some of our Canadian Brothers and Sisters if they seem a little mixed up these days. They need your love, help and guidance. Working/learning/serving/praying together, we make ALL of America, great again!

"Oh, CANADA!" Love y'all!

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– corrbrick 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Don't forget when Canada pulled many hostages out of our embassy in Iran.

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– AroomaNuminahh 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Wait! What? You are educating me to a part of history, of which I was unaware. God bless our dear Canadian Brothers & Sisters! May we ALWAYS stand united!

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– corrbrick 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Oh America was all ga-ga over Canada after they pulled that off!

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– Cyphr 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

https://c19quercetin.com/

Summary of clinical studies. 79% improvement when used during the early stage (first 5-7 days) of a virus infection. It is a natural Zinc Ionophore similar to HCQ.

https://covid19criticalcare.com/covid-19-protocols/i-mask-plus-protocol/

Use Ivermectin as the primary medicine (horse paste) augmented with Quercetin, Zinc, vitamins C and D, etc.

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– NanaQ45 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Canadians need to start questioning the murder of the Sherman's as they manufactured HCQ in Canada as an off brand. Pretty convenient their murder was, don't ya think?

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– radx4 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

I bout Ivermectin from India here: https://my.indiamart.com/

Not sure about shipping to Canada, but worth a try.

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– gnuguy 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

In nyc, so didn't have any access to HCQ (and I hadn't heard of Ivermectin back then) so read up on elderberries (that contains quercetin) with zinc, which is readily available in the vitamin aisles of stores/drug stores. It says it is a method to fight colds, which makes sense too. I got a gummy type and have taken it for the entire time since April of 2020 as well as my daughter. Despite the chicom virus hitting many family members and people at work, we have managed to avoid it. I can't say whether it is just a placebo or not. But again, I've avoided the virus. I did get the jab though for other reasons (taking care of elderly mother and not wanting to be out of commission for two weeks and not able to provide for family). My daughter has stayed away from the jab. I told her I think it was the right decision for her.

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– SmartGuy 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Read Aajonus Vonderplanitz all pharmaceuticals are scams viruses are endemic to human cells not contagious the only contagious viruses are man made and are injected

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– SJBHamilton 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Eat foods high in quercetin and zinc.

Supplement with Vitamin D.

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– NorthusMaximus 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Valleyvet.com duravectin ivermectin. 4.99. Bet they'll ship to Canada. Or get a friend in the USA to ship you some. You don't have feed stores for livestock there? Have them order it for you if they do not carry any ivermectin paste wormer for horses. But I bet they do!

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– DontAsk 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

A pulmonologist I used to watch on YouTube took NAC, quercetin, zinc, and vitamins C and D. He treated COVID patients and never got sick. He also had patients lay on their bellies to open up their lungs (the fluid would then pool into the small part of the lung giving more surface exposure to oxygen) So that's a handy thing to know!

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– EmotionallyDrained 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

You have a 99.9x% chance of surviving a covid infection, yet you want to put foreign chemicals in your body FIRST just in case?

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– peanut115 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

We have used it, as well as some extended family members and friends. Very effective. Be sure to use all the support vitamins as well (though some we know haven’t done all the support and it still worked fine).

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– Tree_Frog 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Here's a recommendation for prophylactic treatment for COVID by the Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care alliance (FLCCC). It has the dosage levels for the vitamins/supplements. Unless you're a health care worker or exposed on a regular basis, I don't think Ivermectin is necessary if you take the rest of the protocol. Dr. Zev Zelenko says in his interviews that zinc and quercitin are essential, because they stop the reproductive cycle of the virus, including flu and RSK.

https://files.catbox.moe/pks28l.pdf

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– Rose1959 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

This is the current protocol (dated Aug 11 2021; see on the bottom) that TreeFrog has posted. It's twice a week now; previously it was once a week. And I think Dr Z says EGCG (green tea ingredient) is ~interchangeable with quercetin. (oops...this EGCG tidbit was mentioned below; I did not see...)

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– inquimous 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I don't know about prophylaxis, but I find 1 ZN (23 mg)/quercetin (800 mg) will dry up my stuffy head in about half an hour, better than Flonase or antihistamine because it even opens the Eustachian tubes. (prob. shouldn't use every day) Don't know which is the drying agent, but I suspect the ZN because I have seen it in a homeopathic compound called Sambucol "to take at first sign of a cold." It is also instant drying, but I like the quercetin better.

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– Matthew246Truth 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Read this for a primer:

https://www.aestheticsadvisor.com/2021/07/is-quercetin-same-as-quinine.html

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– Matthew246Truth 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Hope it helps, Fren

Wish you well

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– inquimous 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

No idea. And in general I don't know that it's a great idea to just take stuff routinely, because very very few things only affect one thing in your body and whatever you take in has to get along with all the parts. Quercetin, for example, is anti-inflammatory all over. I'm practically a hermit and take one if I go somewhere around people, but then I discovered it would open up my ears after they were plugged for weeks and nothing else worked.

There is quite a lot of information about quercetin. For a start, https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33034398/ Plenty more in sidebar links.

This article is interesting: Repurposing Ayurvedic medicinal plants against SARS 2. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33561649/
Besides quercetin, gingerol and curcurmin are moderately effective separately, maybe better together because they all target different parts of the virus. Eat more ginger and cucumber. It is also good to consider all chemical intake against your body's ability to metabolize and excrete it. This is why the drug ads on TV always add "tell your doctor if you have hepatitis-kidney failure-on dialysis" etc. That wonder drug might clear up psoriasis and be the last straw for your liver. So I would not blindly recommend any doses, I would take what info looked relevant, printed out and official looking, to my doctor and ask him if it would pose any interaction problem. But I have a cool doctor who would actually research it.

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– DextertheCat 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Quinine is the actual natural substance that Chloroquine and HCQ are synthesized from. It comes from the Cinchona Officianalis tree in central and south america. It is an herbal supplement, so it is readily available online. It has to be used with zinc to actual inhibit viral replication in cells.

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– deskfan 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

https://rumble.com/vl499z-dr.-peter-mccullough.html

Dr. Peter McCullogh says its effective. Interview is long, but worth the time.

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– PlumberFag 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Tractor supply got ivermectin, as well as penicillin if you ever need it. Penicillin is the injectable so you gotta get some needles and plungers too.

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– OregonAngel2 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Durk Pearson and Sandy Shaw are brilliant biomed researchers and authors of Life Extension. Back during H1N1 they researched and came up with a formulation that was effective. When Covid came along they updated the formula with the latest info.

As you might guess it has the things that you may have heard of that are useful plus some not so well known. All ingredients are safe and effective against a range of viruses - and generally good for you.

A neighbor had covid and we gave her this and she immediately felt so much better. I have been taking it at a low dose for years, and more recently 4 caps per day. I have no finial interest in the company - just sharing because it is so well formulated.

https://lifepriority.com/product/v-guard-2/

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