My favorite cousin in my wife's family has consistently been a pleasant, non-controversial person who never took a political position at any family gathering. Then yesterday she went nuts on Facebook, chiding anyone who hasn't had the shots as selfish, ignorant, dangerous and unworthy of medical care if they get sick. She said medical professionals are overrun and people with non-covid needs cannot get treatment as a result of all the rest of us who, through our refusal to get vaccinated, are allowing covid to mutate over and over again because herd immunity can't happen until we all get vaccinated.
We all know her facts are wrong on all counts, and I also know I won't succeed arguing that (1) it isn't a vaccine, (2) the shot has killed 45,000 so far, (3) people with natural immunity do better with covid than people with the shot, (4) hospitals have plenty of capacity, the hysteria is counting only beds designated as ICU beds without regard to the other 95% of the hospital's beds, (5) people with shots are getting and spreading covid variants, so more people with shots makes no one any safer.
BUT. This argument will work against her approach:
She is overweight by 100 pounds. She frequents donut shops and fast food all the time. No one has ever angrily outed her for making dangerous lifestyle choices that have made her a high user of medical professionals. Her selfish eating and nutrition choices have made her need knee replacements, back surgery, insulin use, heart troubles. She has hogged much more than her fair share of medical care directly as a result of her choices. How would it go if I posted on Facebook about heavy people in exactly the same way she posted about people who choose not to get the vaccines? What if I said she doesn't deserve medical care when she has her inevitable heart attack or diabetic side effects? Or when she gets covid21 because she has no natural immune system both from lifestyle choices and from taking the Pfizer shot?
How about calling out alcoholics the same way? Or drug users, or smokers, or reckless drivers? By her logic, why hasn't she gone nuts about those people who selfishly divert medical attention to their own life choices?
These people need to see that they have lived among people who make choices every day that have societal costs and if they want to call out selfish, ignorant, dangerous choices that make people unworthy of medical treatment, then they'd better be prepared to address themselves because FAR MORE people die of heart disease, lung disease, cancer, diabetes, strokes and early organ failure due to selfish lifestyle choices than covid19.
My wife's cousin has let the media turn her into a soldier without her knowing it, she needs to be told directly and loudly that her militant approach is not a path she wants to continue taking.
I hear that the shot is making people nutty.
Makes people super agro
She seems to be a 100% ignorant fool….which means it’s a complete waste of time to converse with her. Though, I love your counter argument…most people can dish it out but only those smart enough to know that they don’t know everything can take it…she ain’t smart. Anyone shaming on Facebook is a coward and too ignorant to know better. Let her continue her relationship with donuts…
Remember herd immunity cannot happen with this vax because it does not stop transmission
And because it doesn't stop infection either, it induces selection pressure on the virus to mutate. A mutation that evades the "vaccine" will have enhanced fitness and will become more prevalent.
Are you going to be the one that tells her?
I did. She tried to say it is different because my failure to vaccinate affects her directly. I simply asked her when did I give her covid or use medical professionals for it. She had nothing.
Her selfish diversion of medical resources and attention affects everyone by driving up costs of treatment.
Nobody is forcing people to leave their house either. You can have groceries delivered to you.
Just do what Brandon Straka did and..."walk away."
Rub the Nazi shit in her eyes, because that's what she's becoming. She's letting herself be turned against a subsection of her country, turning them into 'the other,' dehumanizing them so it will be ok to let millions of people be marked, segregated, incarcerated/interred, killed.
Very few will change their mind(s), as they are so brainwashed they cannot see the truth or any explanation will go under their radar. It is a shame, but very few will see the truth because their minds are like concrete, thoroughly mixed and permanently set.
I doubt it. If she has long been overweight and had all these problems, she has perfectly justified her weight in her mind by now. And she can always legitimately blame the medical industrial complex for the costs. If this is a sudden change of opinion, what caused it? Why does she hate you so much now? (that's what I'd say, if I thought she had been fond before).
There is one difference between her arguments and yours. Yours can be backed up by facts.
Well...did you?
Yes.
More Power to You! Hopefully she will wake up and thank you later.
Damn good post.
Maybe in person when the time is right. But people get more entrenched when things are in writing and in public. Plus you are guaranteed to get quoted out of context and dragged into more arguments, including the "you're right but you were still mean" which is kind of hard to defend.
Never try to outstink a skunk. Even if you win, it'll be a long time before you can shake the smell.
Yeah, I’m beyond tired of being lectured and attacked about hygiene and health by homos and fatties. Nope shut your mouth lol
It really sucks to hear this! I too have had close friends and family flip with all of the pressure the media is exerting. My mother is now sending me text messages with useless sheep propaganda. IMO - the movie looks like it is almost over. I'm praying for a quick ending with the hope we can save a lot of the vaxers.
Let er rip wins.
I think a large number of statist people are mad (angry, unreasoning) (pseudo) scientists. They spout 'trust the science' while intentionally ignoring the scientific method. The Abeka curriculum emphasizes the scientific method throughout the years, but spells it out in the 7th grade. I wonder how many other 'science books' do likewise? (my bet- not many!) The science is unsettling to say the least on these so-called vaccines:
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1012644/Technical_Briefing_21.pdf
https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04368728?term=NCT04368728&cntry=US&draw=2&rank=1
https://www.medalerts.org/vaersdb/findfield.php?TABLE=ON&GROUP1=CAT&EVENTS=ON&VAX=COVID19 700,000 adverse events is a travesty and tragedy!
https://www.redvoicemedia.com/video/
I pray for you to be able to share this news wisely and winsomely and your family that they will see the light (and the real science) on these vaccines. We love you, WinsAnon!
HIV positive people have weakened immune systems. Should the government, and corporations be allowed to mandate [medical] discrimination against them for being walking germ incubators?
Tell her to add a mask for every 10lbs she is overweight. You won’t be able to hear her anymore and she’ll slowly suffocate- Trust the science.
Becoming a bunch of Karens about health is not going to help anything! Leave her alone to figure it out....
Hey anon, she's caught up in mass psychosis. The best thing to do is send her that mass psychosis video to the link, with a concerned response
"Hey anon-cuz, i have never seen you like this before. I think you might want to watch this video about mass psychosis, because i'm a bit worried that what you said is so out of the norm of what i know about you. here's the link "
I understand the sentiment ,(and did not vote here) but they are as unlikely to listen to reason stated snidely as you are to listen to their illogic.