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posted 3 years ago by BQnita 3 years ago by BQnita +393 / -0
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– bubble_bursts 77 points 3 years ago +77 / -0

It is important to understand what this protective order does. This is not to compell discovery from the defendants nor is it to ensure the defense does not destroy any evidence. I am sure those are covered by the law already.

This order pertains to information disclosed by Durham to the defense and also to any witnesses. It is possible that there is a lot of information that will be presented, and it is possible to take bits and pieces and leak it to the media to make it sound (in the typical MSM manner) like the case is falling apart or they are clutching at straws or even that the defendants are not guilty.

This order ensures that the defense and witnesses do not share any of this information to anyone without authorisation (think media). Not that this will stop them, but when they do it, it will trigger more indictments.

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– merf 21 points 3 years ago +24 / -3

Yeah this order looks rather boring to be honest. From my reading of it, government will provide the defense with material showing Sussman's guilt and this order binds the defense to take proper care in securing it.

The only way it gets interesting for us is if the black hats leak something.

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– bubble_bursts 29 points 3 years ago +29 / -0

It could also mean that the information showing Sussman's guilt would disclose other people who might be indicted, and they want to control the release of that info.

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– ShmellyTunaMelt1 11 points 3 years ago +11 / -0

yup, the last part is about designating information as "sensitive" at will.

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– MAG768720 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

Bingo. They want to keep a lid on future prosecution targets.

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– battleofbrooklyn1976 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Probably not.

If that was the case, the indictment would be sealed. They definitely have to tell the defendant the real names of the people in the indict like the guy they called Tech Executive 1, because that person Is a witness. This must be revealed.

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– bubble_bursts 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Exactly, but they dont want to leak the identities of people like Teck Executive 1 just yet, even if they have to share it with the defense

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– battleofbrooklyn1976 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

They can't reveal the names. It's against DOJ policy. Only the person being indicted is named.

Tech Executive 1 would know immediately they were talking about him. They aren't hiding anything from him.

Also everyone from that indictment have come forward and indentified themselves

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– bubble_bursts 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Then let me rephrase it. Maybe they dont want to reveal identities of other people related to this indictment, people who have not yet been indicted or charged, but who could potentially be charged in future.

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– Callmejuls 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

Which they will when they feel the squeeze as the python wraps around their throats

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– BabylonNTing 5 points 3 years ago +6 / -1

<rubs hands together>

This is getting good!

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– battleofbrooklyn1976 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

In discovery, the government is required to show everything related to the evidence the prosecutors intend to show at trial. It's broader than just "showing guilt". You also have to include exculpatory evidence too. For example, if cops say you committed a robbery at 9pm on the west side of town, but they have a parking ticket for your car on the east side of town for 9:05 pm.

Or

If the eyewitness who identified you, spent the previous six hours in a bar.

Or

If the police interview shows the witness saying they were 35% sure the night they saw you was the same night as the crime.

All of these need to be disclosed or else there could be a Brady rule violation and a mistrial declared.

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– BabylonNTing 2 points 3 years ago +3 / -1

Selling 🍿🍿🍿 giftcards!

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– greenfrogracing 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Member the changes re: Presenting classified info to grand juries? Changed just before Trump "left office"

Connected?

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– bubble_bursts 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Its interesting, but this is related to the actual case where as that order was related to Grand Juries, when they are yet to indict someone. But together, it all paints a picture of an operation that is tightly contained with no leaks.

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– arathyra 43 points 3 years ago +45 / -2

Remember that time all of the FBI agents had "cell phone problems" which resulted in them all being wiped? I guess this will prevent that!

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– deleted 34 points 3 years ago +34 / -0
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– mmtwo 11 points 3 years ago +11 / -0

these people are stupid

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– aquasmurf 30 points 3 years ago +30 / -0

Let the games discovery begin!

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– Blurpy 17 points 3 years ago +17 / -0

They already know everything. Every Single Thing.

Source for that ☝🏼 statement: https://qposts.online/post/571

This is all just a show for the sleeping to be awakened gently before the firing squads begin.

Bonus source, from the same week in January 2018: https://qposts.online/post/636

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– deleted 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0
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– Suckitreddit 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Maxine Waters…Q abbreviations

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– Blurpy 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

MW is Maxine Waters, Senator from California.

https://qposts.online/post/491

https://qposts.online/post/636

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– bubble_bursts 24 points 3 years ago +24 / -0

My guess is to trap them if they selectively leak it to media as usual

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– JohnCClark 12 points 3 years ago +12 / -0

So Durham will be handing evidence over the defense counsel. This order says defense counsel has to keep it secret. He won’t, but the indictment Durham wrote already said what it said… taking the wind out of any efforts to leak / spin.

Tells me that defense will soon be in custody of information leading to the arrest of… well, let’s just say Durham is looking out for this guy’s physical security.

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– DaesDaemar 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Thanks for sharing details (date, etc) and a link.

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– HunnyB 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I have no idea what that meant but yay!

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