And I contacted them but I haven’t heard anything back yet. It’s getting close to the time that I’ll have to send my response into my employer who has already said if you don’t get the shot, you’re fired.
What i find most interesting is that the FDA approved vaccine Comirnaty is not even available, so the mandates have been issued using medication under EAU surely this fact alone is enough to make the mandate null and void.
The Comirnaty is simply not available for obvious reasons and is legally distinct from the Pfizer vaccine but is interchangeable - it's just another deception to co-erce to join in the medical trial.
Further to this, this is in contravention of point 1, 2, 3, 6, 7 & 9 (arguably even 1 or 2 more) of the Nuremburg code, surely this should hold some weight especially in the military ?
As a veteran, I encourage all of my still-active buddies to take the discharge if they can. Something most don't know is that once you've fulfilled your first 4-6 yr enlistment, they Cannot take your veteran benefits (VA/ Post 9-11 GI Bill). I know because I was thrown a 9 member squad of soldiers being Chaptered out of the military for various offenses (DUI-Drug use-pattern of misconduct etc. with other than/ dishonorable discharge). I spent a year doing nothing but chaptering soldiers out, working closely with JAG lawyers and Chapter regulations.
If you aren't SF/SEAL etc. and haven't signed a contract that states you have to pay pack your training costs (and I'm even wondering if they can do That after a certain time period) they can't do shit to your enlistment benefits once your first enlistment contract is fulfilled..
If you haven't fulfilled your contract, then you've only invested 0+ years (Less than 5 usually) and it's not in your best interest to give two shits about those benefits. Get college money another way. It's not worth your life and health to care that much.
I applaud them attempting to sue, but I don't think it's going anywhere. As someone below pointed out, You can't sue the military. It'll probably get thrown out.
One of the reasons I got out (out of the 5, 457, 892 reasons) is that the COC will lie through their teeth to soldiers every chance they get. They know most soldiers won't take the time, or be motivated enough to actually look up what is/ isn't, true, what is allowed and what isn't under AR's and UCMJ. It's an exhaustive, complicated and dense legal code.
Every fucking day SGM/1SGs and NCO's are lying to their soldiers. Every. Fucking. Day, over things from incredibly weird bullshit, up to major regs like how much leave you can have if a family member dies. I don't doubt for one single second they're lying about this mandate and what they're allowed to do and if they're allowed to take your benefits, or charge you for training. They can threaten and bitch all they like, but once JAG gets involved, they're always put back in their lane and told what is real, and what is simply their abusive control fantasy.
Lastly, I encourage everyone in the military to get out. Now. This gov't is not only illegitimate, they're are a fascist regime with Marxist paint splashed all over them. We gave an oath to the Constitution--not a President, not a gov't administration--and if you stay in, you WILL be asked to do things against that oath. If not today, next week or next month. Look at Australia. Take the Get while the Getting is Good, and on their dime. Do not be that Guy who will stand before a Tribunal one day and claim you were "Just following orders". Maintain your Honor, your Integrity and your personal courage and remember what you raised your right hand and swore to do. Against ALL enemies--foreign and DOMESTIC.
Good luck. In the past, lawsuits brought against the Fed Govy by AD Service Members have Ben thrown out, due to the "no lawsuit clause" listed in the contract that EVERY service member signs upon entry. If you can't sue for damages sustained in training that aren't the fault of the service member, and can't sie for damages caused by other "vaccination programs" like anthrax and smallpox, I highly doubt this one will be successful. Not trying to doom, just trying to bring a little more context to their struggle.
"EUA products are by definition experimental and thus require the right to refuse. Under the
Nuremberg Code, the foundation of ethical medicine, no one may be coerced to participate in a
medical experiment. Consent of the individual is “absolutely essential.” A federal court held that
the U.S. military could not mandate EUA vaccines to soldiers. Doe #1 v. Rumsfeld, 297
F.Supp.2d 119 (2003). The court held: "...the United States cannot demand that members of the
armed forces also serve as guinea pigs for experimental drugs." Id. at 135. No court has ever
upheld a mandate for an EUA vaccine."
I read this one includes federal employees and contractor employees as well, so it's a combined lawsuit encompassing all the groups impacted by the EO rather than just the military. Wondering if that will allow it to play out differently.
Anthrax, smallpox, yellow fever, etc. would be in the same category as COVID-19 with a 99.98% rate of recovery, at which point antibodies are superior? Also, we’re talking about the mandate of an EUA authorized only vaccine. How’s that work?
I really wish everyone would get off the religious belief thing, This vaccine is getting rejected by people because they know it is a farce. If this virus was truly killing people left and right in overwhelming numbers most people would comply just to save their neighbors from getting killed. Everyone knows this is about Authoritarian Control and that all the fear being put out there is propaganda. People know GRAFT has been taken to make Hospitals and Big Pharma and Big Tech and Big Companies rich. I am a born again Christian and I can't think of a single reason to not get vaxxed other than these people passing out the shot are ten times more scary than the virus is.
Do you believe that you should be allowed to exercise your religious duty to obey the Ten Commandments?
Do you believe that you are made in the image of God?
Do you believe that God made you with free will?
I can see disagreement about strategy, etc., but "I am a born again Christian and I can't think of a single reason to not get vaxxed" doesn't make it sound like you're very serious about what you've written.
I have taken vaccines that were tested. I really have not seen the proof that it is made out of dead babies. God also gave is brains to make vaccines that have worked fine. BTW who are you to judge? I have led people to the Lord who are still leading changed transformed Christ honoring lives 20 years later.
Because we continually try every possible peaceful avenue available. We try to uphold the law and hold the government accountable to their limitations imposed by the highest law of the land. We will exhaust all efforts to resolve this in a peaceable manner. If/when that is insufficient, we use the last recourse. Good men fight because they have to, evil men fight because they want to.
Q had plenty to say about Class Action Lawsuits. The script of our show is humming right along.
https://qposts.online/?q=class+action&s=keyword
Nice reminder.
I pray this is the first domino of many to fall that will expose this bait and switch for what it is.
Anyone know how I can sign onto this lawsuit?
If you find out, please let me know.
I'm wondering if it's the same lawsuit as this one? https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/60416136/costin-v-biden/
I’m not sure. I did find this one...
https://lc.org/newsroom/details/101521-military-federal-employees-and-civilian-contractors-sue-biden-1
And I contacted them but I haven’t heard anything back yet. It’s getting close to the time that I’ll have to send my response into my employer who has already said if you don’t get the shot, you’re fired.
Yep, same. They pushed mine up to November 1st.
Please let me know if you find out. I'd like to join this as well.
Ditto same here. This some ol' bs.
Will do. I’m trying to reach out to some attorney’s to see if I can get representation. Not having a lot of luck to be honest.
I'm not having luck either. I'll let you know if I get something, but it's looking rough.
What i find most interesting is that the FDA approved vaccine Comirnaty is not even available, so the mandates have been issued using medication under EAU surely this fact alone is enough to make the mandate null and void.
The Comirnaty is simply not available for obvious reasons and is legally distinct from the Pfizer vaccine but is interchangeable - it's just another deception to co-erce to join in the medical trial.
Further to this, this is in contravention of point 1, 2, 3, 6, 7 & 9 (arguably even 1 or 2 more) of the Nuremburg code, surely this should hold some weight especially in the military ?
As a veteran, I encourage all of my still-active buddies to take the discharge if they can. Something most don't know is that once you've fulfilled your first 4-6 yr enlistment, they Cannot take your veteran benefits (VA/ Post 9-11 GI Bill). I know because I was thrown a 9 member squad of soldiers being Chaptered out of the military for various offenses (DUI-Drug use-pattern of misconduct etc. with other than/ dishonorable discharge). I spent a year doing nothing but chaptering soldiers out, working closely with JAG lawyers and Chapter regulations.
If you aren't SF/SEAL etc. and haven't signed a contract that states you have to pay pack your training costs (and I'm even wondering if they can do That after a certain time period) they can't do shit to your enlistment benefits once your first enlistment contract is fulfilled..
If you haven't fulfilled your contract, then you've only invested 0+ years (Less than 5 usually) and it's not in your best interest to give two shits about those benefits. Get college money another way. It's not worth your life and health to care that much.
I applaud them attempting to sue, but I don't think it's going anywhere. As someone below pointed out, You can't sue the military. It'll probably get thrown out.
One of the reasons I got out (out of the 5, 457, 892 reasons) is that the COC will lie through their teeth to soldiers every chance they get. They know most soldiers won't take the time, or be motivated enough to actually look up what is/ isn't, true, what is allowed and what isn't under AR's and UCMJ. It's an exhaustive, complicated and dense legal code.
Every fucking day SGM/1SGs and NCO's are lying to their soldiers. Every. Fucking. Day, over things from incredibly weird bullshit, up to major regs like how much leave you can have if a family member dies. I don't doubt for one single second they're lying about this mandate and what they're allowed to do and if they're allowed to take your benefits, or charge you for training. They can threaten and bitch all they like, but once JAG gets involved, they're always put back in their lane and told what is real, and what is simply their abusive control fantasy.
Lastly, I encourage everyone in the military to get out. Now. This gov't is not only illegitimate, they're are a fascist regime with Marxist paint splashed all over them. We gave an oath to the Constitution--not a President, not a gov't administration--and if you stay in, you WILL be asked to do things against that oath. If not today, next week or next month. Look at Australia. Take the Get while the Getting is Good, and on their dime. Do not be that Guy who will stand before a Tribunal one day and claim you were "Just following orders". Maintain your Honor, your Integrity and your personal courage and remember what you raised your right hand and swore to do. Against ALL enemies--foreign and DOMESTIC.
Good luck. In the past, lawsuits brought against the Fed Govy by AD Service Members have Ben thrown out, due to the "no lawsuit clause" listed in the contract that EVERY service member signs upon entry. If you can't sue for damages sustained in training that aren't the fault of the service member, and can't sie for damages caused by other "vaccination programs" like anthrax and smallpox, I highly doubt this one will be successful. Not trying to doom, just trying to bring a little more context to their struggle.
"EUA products are by definition experimental and thus require the right to refuse. Under the Nuremberg Code, the foundation of ethical medicine, no one may be coerced to participate in a medical experiment. Consent of the individual is “absolutely essential.” A federal court held that the U.S. military could not mandate EUA vaccines to soldiers. Doe #1 v. Rumsfeld, 297 F.Supp.2d 119 (2003). The court held: "...the United States cannot demand that members of the armed forces also serve as guinea pigs for experimental drugs." Id. at 135. No court has ever upheld a mandate for an EUA vaccine."
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/wp-content/uploads/notice-for-employers-universities-and-other-institutions-mandating-covid-19-vaccines8.31.21.pdf
I read this one includes federal employees and contractor employees as well, so it's a combined lawsuit encompassing all the groups impacted by the EO rather than just the military. Wondering if that will allow it to play out differently.
Have you read what Q has said about Class-Action? It is in the script.
Something about them being "very effective".
Or as fake faggots like Fauci say "efficacious" when they're lying through their teeth, and being super ironically affectatious 😁
Anthrax, smallpox, yellow fever, etc. would be in the same category as COVID-19 with a 99.98% rate of recovery, at which point antibodies are superior? Also, we’re talking about the mandate of an EUA authorized only vaccine. How’s that work?
I really wish everyone would get off the religious belief thing, This vaccine is getting rejected by people because they know it is a farce. If this virus was truly killing people left and right in overwhelming numbers most people would comply just to save their neighbors from getting killed. Everyone knows this is about Authoritarian Control and that all the fear being put out there is propaganda. People know GRAFT has been taken to make Hospitals and Big Pharma and Big Tech and Big Companies rich. I am a born again Christian and I can't think of a single reason to not get vaxxed other than these people passing out the shot are ten times more scary than the virus is.
Do you believe that you should be allowed to exercise your religious duty to obey the Ten Commandments? Do you believe that you are made in the image of God? Do you believe that God made you with free will?
I can see disagreement about strategy, etc., but "I am a born again Christian and I can't think of a single reason to not get vaxxed" doesn't make it sound like you're very serious about what you've written.
I have taken vaccines that were tested. I really have not seen the proof that it is made out of dead babies. God also gave is brains to make vaccines that have worked fine. BTW who are you to judge? I have led people to the Lord who are still leading changed transformed Christ honoring lives 20 years later.
Not wrong, except this shotnis training people to accept the future mark of the beast.
Not wrong, except that it also uses aborted fetus cells in production (2 of 3, not moderna, or at least not that we know of yet...)
Why don't we go after the individuals making the calls?
They now have an opportunity to loose millions so that they may continue to show their undying love for Biden.
Where do I join?
Because we continually try every possible peaceful avenue available. We try to uphold the law and hold the government accountable to their limitations imposed by the highest law of the land. We will exhaust all efforts to resolve this in a peaceable manner. If/when that is insufficient, we use the last recourse. Good men fight because they have to, evil men fight because they want to.