I'm so happy that you included those links instead of just the image. I've downloaded the spreadsheet and am going to try to reproduce the graph. I'm hoping I can show my normie friend and have something rock solid directly from an official government source.
Edit: graphed it and included everything after 1st shot as "vaccinated". The values are nearly identical to each other after week 16. I did not get the same values shown in the graphic on this post.
So in May, vaccinated people were 2.6 times more likely to die than unvaccinated people. It's similar for every month. The double jabbed are dying at a much higher rate than the pure bloods.
And here's an article on another study from Germany which confirms the same findings. The higher the vaccination rate, the higher the excess mortality:
I am 73 and unvaxed. And am proud of it. There is just so much leftist globalist communist BS I am willing to take over the last 5 years (specifically).
This graph doesn't mean shit. Its meant to deceive and be easily rebutted. Look at the age range 10-59. That is a huge range.
If the older people are more likely to be vaccinated, it would put a larger number of older people in the vaccinated rate and a larger number of young people in the unvaccinated rate.
Respectfully disagree. The MOST important take home message is that you don't have to differentiate between vax-related and no vax-related deaths (which automatically skews results). This is important because almost no deaths from blood clots, heart attacks, or strokes are being attributed to the vax on autopsy reports or death certificates (at least not in the US). So with inaccurate vax-injury reporting, this is the next best way to determine if there is a significant difference in total deaths between the two groups.
Let me put some numbers to it to have my argument make more sense. Imagine this graph was made in a country with 100% compliance rate for everyone eligible above the age of 12.
The "Unvaccinated 10-59" group would all be 10-11 year olds. The Vaccinated group would all be 12-59 year olds. Everyone expects a 10-11 year old to die less frequently than a 12-59 year old.
The graph fucking sucks. Promoting easily debunked reasons is detrimental towards our cause.
Why then were the vaccinated dying at a lower rate in March?
Only older people had been vaccinated in March. If the increased death rate for the vaccinated was age related, then why does the data show a lower vaccinated death rate when only older people had been vaccinated? If the higher death rate was age related, then the vaccinated death rate would be higher in March, due to the vaccinated group being made up of older people.
Younger people didn't start getting vaccinated in the UK until April/May. Surely if older age was the reason, then as more young people got vaccinated, the vaccinated death rate would come down. But it didn't. It went up. It went up precisely when younger people started getting vaccinated. As the clot shot became available to younger people, the vaccinated death rate increased.
Yeah not sure why you're downvoted. This age range is huge. In general aren't more adults vaccinated and less child are vaccinated. So the unvaccinated group is going to include way more young people and the vaccinated group is going to contain way more old people. This is probably accurate data but laid out in a deceiving way, that will just get "debunked"
That's why the graph starts from March. In March (when the vaccine was only available to older people), the vaccinated were actually dying at a slightly lower rate than the unvaccinated.
By mid-April, the two groups were dying at roughly the same rate, and by May (when the vaccine was available to people as young as 30) the vaccinated started dying at a much higher rate. So again, once younger people started receiving the vaccine, the death rate for the vaccinated shot up.
Younger people were transferring from the unvaccinated group to the vaccinated group, yet as more young people became vaccinated, the vaccinated death rate shot up.
Also, the 10-59 age range was provided by the UK government. That's the grouping they provide. The graph can only be created based on the age groups the UK government provide data for.
There are many like you, NAC helps from what I hear. Walmart.com had it recently it may still be available. I have 5 bottles if worse comes to worst I can send you one to help you detox.
Statistics nitpick… This is expected regardless of if the vaccine is even anything more than a placebo saline shot
The most healthy people will not get vaccinated because they don’t need to. Over time that separates those who are left to just the healthiest of the bunch.
That’s why the unvaccinated line goes from a rate of 2.0 over 1.0 over time, it’s not like we started dying less by not getting vaccinated. We just started getting more and more concentrated of hyper healthy individuals as those more at risk moved into the other group.
If you disagree then the implication is that for no reason at all, those who did not get vaccinated, just randomly started dying half as often as they were dying prior to the vaccine existing.
I suppose it’s possible if everyone upped their lifestyle through conscious effort.
Hmm
One obvious reason is that the WuFlu has killed both the vaccinated and the unvaccinated. As the weak die off, less people will die from the WuFlu (in both categories).
Also worth bearing in mind, however, is that the drop in unvaccinated deaths is less than 1 in 100,000, so the WuFlu is killing a tiny percentage of the public. At least for now, although obviously that will change once Vaccine Enhanced Infection (VEI) kicks in and the vaccinated realize they've given themselves vaccine induced AIDS.
This is based on the UK government's data, and they have classed people as vaccinated 21 days after their second jab. The unvaccinated category refers to clean bloods. That might sound obvious, bit some dodgy governments have fiddled the figures by classing people as unvaccinated right up until 21 days after their 2nd jab.
So if you died 3 hours after receiving the vaccine, you wouldn't be included in either total.
Download the graph and you can see the classifications they have used.
So, if the definition of "jabbed" (rightly) included those jabbed within 21 days, it's possible (but not verifiable with the data given) that 1) death rates among the jabbed are higher and 2) death rates among the unjabbed are lower than the data they provided shows.
(Given the many reports of deaths immedtely after, and with the first few weeks after the jab, the 14 and 21 day shenanigans could seem to be blatant attempts to (no pun intended) bury (/hide) the deadliness/toxicity of the jabs.)
Here's the article which the graph is from:
https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/vaccinated-english-adults-under-60
And here's the link to the Office For National Statistics where you can download the graph with the official UK government statistics (table 4 shows the All-Cause death statistics):
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/datasets/deathsbyvaccinationstatusengland
Excellent Post, fren!
I'm so happy that you included those links instead of just the image. I've downloaded the spreadsheet and am going to try to reproduce the graph. I'm hoping I can show my normie friend and have something rock solid directly from an official government source.
Unless it’s a meme, people should have to post a link within a few minutes of starting a thread.
Were you able to?
Edit: graphed it and included everything after 1st shot as "vaccinated". The values are nearly identical to each other after week 16. I did not get the same values shown in the graphic on this post.
Ah, can't post my data neatly here!
You have to normalize by population. I did a quick cumulative statistic to check if it's anywhere in the ballpark, and got very close to a 2:1 rate.
If you add in early treatment and clot shot side effects you will definitely increase this factor quite substantially as well.
They're not. The vaccinated are dying at a much higher rate. Look at table 4, column 'Age specific rate per 100,000'.
Starting from May the deaths per 100,000 were as follows:
07 May 21:
Unvaccinated = 1.2 deaths
2nd dose = 2.9 deaths
14 May 21:
Unvaccinated = 1.1 deaths
2nd dose = 3.0 deaths
21 May 21:
Unvaccinated = 1.3 deaths
2nd dose = 3.3 deaths
28 May 21: Unvaccinated = 1.1 deaths
2nd dose = 3.0 deaths
So in May, vaccinated people were 2.6 times more likely to die than unvaccinated people. It's similar for every month. The double jabbed are dying at a much higher rate than the pure bloods.
And here's an article on another study from Germany which confirms the same findings. The higher the vaccination rate, the higher the excess mortality:
https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/new-study-from-germany-confirms-higher
I am 73 and unvaxed. And am proud of it. There is just so much leftist globalist communist BS I am willing to take over the last 5 years (specifically).
oora
This graph doesn't mean shit. Its meant to deceive and be easily rebutted. Look at the age range 10-59. That is a huge range.
If the older people are more likely to be vaccinated, it would put a larger number of older people in the vaccinated rate and a larger number of young people in the unvaccinated rate.
Agreed. They used this age range tomfoolery in the “study that disproved ivermectin” as well.
I’d want to see a better break down by age and by vaccination rate just for transparency’s sake.
Respectfully disagree. The MOST important take home message is that you don't have to differentiate between vax-related and no vax-related deaths (which automatically skews results). This is important because almost no deaths from blood clots, heart attacks, or strokes are being attributed to the vax on autopsy reports or death certificates (at least not in the US). So with inaccurate vax-injury reporting, this is the next best way to determine if there is a significant difference in total deaths between the two groups.
Let me put some numbers to it to have my argument make more sense. Imagine this graph was made in a country with 100% compliance rate for everyone eligible above the age of 12.
The "Unvaccinated 10-59" group would all be 10-11 year olds. The Vaccinated group would all be 12-59 year olds. Everyone expects a 10-11 year old to die less frequently than a 12-59 year old.
The graph fucking sucks. Promoting easily debunked reasons is detrimental towards our cause.
Why then were the vaccinated dying at a lower rate in March?
Only older people had been vaccinated in March. If the increased death rate for the vaccinated was age related, then why does the data show a lower vaccinated death rate when only older people had been vaccinated? If the higher death rate was age related, then the vaccinated death rate would be higher in March, due to the vaccinated group being made up of older people.
Younger people didn't start getting vaccinated in the UK until April/May. Surely if older age was the reason, then as more young people got vaccinated, the vaccinated death rate would come down. But it didn't. It went up. It went up precisely when younger people started getting vaccinated. As the clot shot became available to younger people, the vaccinated death rate increased.
Tiresome isn't it?
Yeah not sure why you're downvoted. This age range is huge. In general aren't more adults vaccinated and less child are vaccinated. So the unvaccinated group is going to include way more young people and the vaccinated group is going to contain way more old people. This is probably accurate data but laid out in a deceiving way, that will just get "debunked"
That's why the graph starts from March. In March (when the vaccine was only available to older people), the vaccinated were actually dying at a slightly lower rate than the unvaccinated.
By mid-April, the two groups were dying at roughly the same rate, and by May (when the vaccine was available to people as young as 30) the vaccinated started dying at a much higher rate. So again, once younger people started receiving the vaccine, the death rate for the vaccinated shot up.
Younger people were transferring from the unvaccinated group to the vaccinated group, yet as more young people became vaccinated, the vaccinated death rate shot up.
Also, the 10-59 age range was provided by the UK government. That's the grouping they provide. The graph can only be created based on the age groups the UK government provide data for.
I got vaxxed before I knew the truth. Thank God I got strong genes. Although both rates are pretty low.
There are many like you, NAC helps from what I hear. Walmart.com had it recently it may still be available. I have 5 bottles if worse comes to worst I can send you one to help you detox.
You can get it from bulk supplements.com. Also the Life Extension Foundation lef.org: https://www.lifeextension.com/search#q=nac&t=coveo4A2453FD
Better take you some Ivermectin to keep those non classical monocytes levels down
Statistics nitpick… This is expected regardless of if the vaccine is even anything more than a placebo saline shot
The most healthy people will not get vaccinated because they don’t need to. Over time that separates those who are left to just the healthiest of the bunch.
That’s why the unvaccinated line goes from a rate of 2.0 over 1.0 over time, it’s not like we started dying less by not getting vaccinated. We just started getting more and more concentrated of hyper healthy individuals as those more at risk moved into the other group.
I disagree. I know tons of healthy people who got brainwashed into getting vaxxed.
If you disagree then the implication is that for no reason at all, those who did not get vaccinated, just randomly started dying half as often as they were dying prior to the vaccine existing. I suppose it’s possible if everyone upped their lifestyle through conscious effort. Hmm
One obvious reason is that the WuFlu has killed both the vaccinated and the unvaccinated. As the weak die off, less people will die from the WuFlu (in both categories).
Also worth bearing in mind, however, is that the drop in unvaccinated deaths is less than 1 in 100,000, so the WuFlu is killing a tiny percentage of the public. At least for now, although obviously that will change once Vaccine Enhanced Infection (VEI) kicks in and the vaccinated realize they've given themselves vaccine induced AIDS.
In March, the vaccinated were dying at a slightly lower rate then the unvaccinated.
It wasn't until March/April, when mass vaccination of younger healthy people started, that the vaccinated death rate shot up.
Yes but the unvaccinated rate shot down also. It didn’t stay constant. It went from 2.0 to 1.0
Vax data bookmark. Thanks
Shit like this used to go viral on digg and reddit.
sigh cmon normies wake up
This is based on the UK government's data, and they have classed people as vaccinated 21 days after their second jab. The unvaccinated category refers to clean bloods. That might sound obvious, bit some dodgy governments have fiddled the figures by classing people as unvaccinated right up until 21 days after their 2nd jab.
So if you died 3 hours after receiving the vaccine, you wouldn't be included in either total.
Download the graph and you can see the classifications they have used.
So, if the definition of "jabbed" (rightly) included those jabbed within 21 days, it's possible (but not verifiable with the data given) that 1) death rates among the jabbed are higher and 2) death rates among the unjabbed are lower than the data they provided shows.
(Given the many reports of deaths immedtely after, and with the first few weeks after the jab, the 14 and 21 day shenanigans could seem to be blatant attempts to (no pun intended) bury (/hide) the deadliness/toxicity of the jabs.)