I never understood how they pulled a Pope, a person between a person and God, from Peter being the rock. Jesus was the church. Peter was the church. We are the church. It’s in you, not a building. And somehow a figure head rose up out of all that. And a title, and a pope was made. There is no one between a person and Jesus. Not a preacher or am pope. Yet I have talked to many Catholics that have told me that the Pope is the closest to God. The pedestal they place him on. So wrong IMO.
Every church has a leadership hierarchy - in NO WAY does the pope replace or stand in between Jesus. The Pope is simply the head bishop, and it's not made up. The word “Pope” is derived from the Greek word, “pappas”, which means, "father" (Latinized as “papa”). In Isaiah 22, verses 19-24, we see God telling Shebna, who was the chief minister of the House of David, that he will be replaced in his office by Eliakim, and that Eliakim will have authority and will be a “father” [papa; pope] to the inhabitants of Jerusalem and to the House of Judah.
I am not defending the PERSON who currently holds the title of Pope. I theorize that we will be learning a lot more about The Siri Thesis in the near future, where the real pope was replaced by a man the Freemasons planted. This explains A LOT of what has been happening in the Catholic Church.
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Barely started reading the Siri Thesis just now - WAY to long to read before work in an hour - but thanks for the the link, it looks very interesting and informative.
Barely started reading the Siri Thesis just now - WAY to long to read before work in an hour - but thanks for the the link, it looks very interesting and informative.
The "Rock" wasn't Peter, but Peter's CONFESSION, the truth that Christ was the promised Messiah, the Son of the Living God. Upon that truth, Jesus said He would build His Church. Eventually Roman papists would corrupt that passage as a way of justifying their power grab over the rest of the Christian churches. It was purely political and evil.
However, as to the declaration: Upon this rock I will build My Church, certainly the Church has not been built upon the authority of man, but upon the ministry of the confession which Peter made, in which he proclaims that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God. He accordingly addresses him as a minister: Upon this rock, i.e., upon this ministry. [Therefore he addresses him as a minister of this office in which this confession and doctrine is to be in operation and says: Upon this rock, i.e., this preaching and ministry.]
So you've repeated the same lie twice. That doesn't make it real. I noticed you didn't quote scriptures but some liar who is on his way to hell. Yikes. Read the actual scriptures and not the one the Protestants took books out of (another charge usually put to the Catholic church, wrongfully so).
Jesus literally renames Simon Bar Jonah to ROCK for a purpose. The "rock" in that passage is Peter and it's clear as day to anyone who reads and is intellectually honest with themself.
Incorrect. You know nothing so stuff a sock in it. The true church was infiltrated as was our nation. Long ago...like our nation. You dont understand anything about it. Time you learn truths instead of gossip grievances from wanna be churches that pander to peoples whims rather than uphold Christs church . The infiltration of the church began in earnest right after the French revolution. Our nations infiltration began right after the civil war. Long foretold was this infiltration of evil. Evil infiltrates everything good ....but doesnt change it anymore than it changed We the people. If you knew the history chronologically you would not he so buffaloed by faux Churches. In the end...you shall see. Be ready to repent and beg Jesus to forgive your lazy ignorance.
absolutely correct. mixed with paganism. completely invented. they say peter was 1st pope but look at what the criteria is to be pope. he did not meet their criteria.
Well I wouldn’t say all their beliefs, as most of those are Christian beliefs. But as far as the Pope, covered in gold, in his gold palace, his gold chair. Yeah, that’s the one I would question. I get what you mean though. 👍
I'm not sure where this comes from, but here's what I know: I have a bible from my great, great grandmother - so I can confirm that they were not banned from owning, reading, and reflecting on the word of God.
I think you're confused with Rome's banning of printing the Bible in any language other than Latin. So yes, same idea of not wanting the common layman to be able to read and learn for himself in the common tongue, but Bibles weren't outright banned...
I never understood how they pulled a Pope, a person between a person and God, from Peter being the rock. Jesus was the church. Peter was the church. We are the church. It’s in you, not a building. And somehow a figure head rose up out of all that. And a title, and a pope was made. There is no one between a person and Jesus. Not a preacher or am pope. Yet I have talked to many Catholics that have told me that the Pope is the closest to God. The pedestal they place him on. So wrong IMO.
Every church has a leadership hierarchy - in NO WAY does the pope replace or stand in between Jesus. The Pope is simply the head bishop, and it's not made up. The word “Pope” is derived from the Greek word, “pappas”, which means, "father" (Latinized as “papa”). In Isaiah 22, verses 19-24, we see God telling Shebna, who was the chief minister of the House of David, that he will be replaced in his office by Eliakim, and that Eliakim will have authority and will be a “father” [papa; pope] to the inhabitants of Jerusalem and to the House of Judah.
I am not defending the PERSON who currently holds the title of Pope. I theorize that we will be learning a lot more about The Siri Thesis in the near future, where the real pope was replaced by a man the Freemasons planted. This explains A LOT of what has been happening in the Catholic Church.
Based Writing 310. 3 credits. In this course, students will learn how to stand strong and passionate in order to defend the truth and expose fallacies especially when extreme discernment is required. Because it fucking matters. Instr.: u/tjramone
Barely started reading the Siri Thesis just now - WAY to long to read before work in an hour - but thanks for the the link, it looks very interesting and informative.
Barely started reading the Siri Thesis just now - WAY to long to read before work in an hour - but thanks for the the link, it looks very interesting and informative.
The office of the current pope, and Rome all together is made up.
They have a different Gospel. Scripture warns us about that.
The "Rock" wasn't Peter, but Peter's CONFESSION, the truth that Christ was the promised Messiah, the Son of the Living God. Upon that truth, Jesus said He would build His Church. Eventually Roman papists would corrupt that passage as a way of justifying their power grab over the rest of the Christian churches. It was purely political and evil.
No, he renamed him. Simon Bar Jonah to Kephr or Petra.
Irrelevant to the passage in question.
No it's not lol
You didn't even present a passage.
For those still buying Rome's lies:
https://bookofconcord.org/power-and-primacy-of-the-pope/
Or for more modern explanations, and directly addressing the differences between the Greek language:
https://carm.org/roman-catholicism/is-peter-the-rock-on-which-the-church-is-built/
http://www.wordoftruthradio.com/questions/47.html
So you've repeated the same lie twice. That doesn't make it real. I noticed you didn't quote scriptures but some liar who is on his way to hell. Yikes. Read the actual scriptures and not the one the Protestants took books out of (another charge usually put to the Catholic church, wrongfully so).
Jesus literally renames Simon Bar Jonah to ROCK for a purpose. The "rock" in that passage is Peter and it's clear as day to anyone who reads and is intellectually honest with themself.
http://www.catholicapologetics.org/ap050200.htm - Matthew Chapter 16, Verse 18: The Primacy of Peter
Peter wasn’t the rock, the statement “ You are the Christ, the Son of the living God” was/is the rock the church is built upon
Agreed. And thank you for yours and the others info. Appreciated.
Incorrect. You know nothing so stuff a sock in it. The true church was infiltrated as was our nation. Long ago...like our nation. You dont understand anything about it. Time you learn truths instead of gossip grievances from wanna be churches that pander to peoples whims rather than uphold Christs church . The infiltration of the church began in earnest right after the French revolution. Our nations infiltration began right after the civil war. Long foretold was this infiltration of evil. Evil infiltrates everything good ....but doesnt change it anymore than it changed We the people. If you knew the history chronologically you would not he so buffaloed by faux Churches. In the end...you shall see. Be ready to repent and beg Jesus to forgive your lazy ignorance.
Something about being humble...
absolutely correct. mixed with paganism. completely invented. they say peter was 1st pope but look at what the criteria is to be pope. he did not meet their criteria.
Well I wouldn’t say all their beliefs, as most of those are Christian beliefs. But as far as the Pope, covered in gold, in his gold palace, his gold chair. Yeah, that’s the one I would question. I get what you mean though. 👍
Plus the catholic church banned members from owning Bibles. I wonder why...
Uhh, I'm Catholic and I've never been banned from owning Bibles. Every Catholic shop I see sells Bibles of various types.
I heard Catholics have to put a banana in their shoe before they walk outside.
Before you were born. I had a good friend, a recovering Catholic, who told me this was true.
I'm not sure where this comes from, but here's what I know: I have a bible from my great, great grandmother - so I can confirm that they were not banned from owning, reading, and reflecting on the word of God.
That's absurd.
This is so wrong. Freemason propaganda. You can literally look this stuff up, you know?
I think you're confused with Rome's banning of printing the Bible in any language other than Latin. So yes, same idea of not wanting the common layman to be able to read and learn for himself in the common tongue, but Bibles weren't outright banned...