A Perspective on the Trump/Pence "Feud" - By Brent Cates.
(brentcates.substack.com)
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I never knew what to think of Pence. But there was a part of me that was worried that if he pulled the trigger, Democrats would use the same tactic in the future, and would use it recklessly and irresponsibly, to change the outcome of any election they didn’t like. Look, if patriots are really in control and we’ve got everything under wraps, and this is going to be made right anyway, maybe it’s better that he didn’t set the precedent and open the door for Democrats to just steal an election they wanted to by fucking around with electors on a whim.
I mean that’s not exactly the scenario, but you know what I mean. They could just use it once the door was open, and use it anytime they wanted to for any election they wanted to steal. I’m tired so I’m probably not making very much sense, hopefully you guys understand what I’m saying.
It wouldn’t shock me at all if what he did, and didn’t do, is still part of the strategy.
It makes a great deal more sense when you understand that the Dems are running the Color Revolution Playbook (again, discussed in the Devolution series).
In my opinion, they never thought that they would actually have to inaugurate Biden, in fact they wanted Trump to get their fake results thrown out, whether via the state legislatures, martial law, SCOTUS, or Pence. The method did not matter. They wanted to be able to claim that it was Trump who stole the election from Biden. The fake news would ensure that civil war would have broken out overnight. Many young Americans would have joined the insurgency (keep in mind, Biden promised to raise their minimum wage, forgive their student debt, and way more. Imagine their rage at the man that they were told stole that from them and 81 million others. Add in rage from BLM still hot and you have a sizable chunk of the youth captured. It is quite Mao-esque actually), and likely the divide would have been enough to split the military down to the individual level. Their goal was to make us into another Ukraine or Syria.
Ultimately, it was their intention that things would get so bad that Biden would have cover to ask for foreign intervention, likely from Europe and from China (posing as UN). The US would have been split, the population irreparably divided, and the Constitution torched. Game Over.
Trump, by walking away and forcing Biden to actually live up to his promises to his voters, sort of flipped the script on them. How many people would be willing to take up arms to defend this regime now vs in January 2021?
In fact, you could almost say that Trump is running their playbook against them in many ways. A reverse color revolution.
This explanation is surprisingly logical. I say surprisingly because it presupposes such an astonishing level of genius and winning mentality that, well, WOW.
Side note: If you examine the history of God's providence for salvation as revealed through the scripture, Satan's strategy is always to hit first. God's strategy is to be hit first, take the hit, and then move forward to 'legally' reclaim Satan's territory or assets as justifiable damages.
Satan thought he would win by murdering Jesus, the Son that God had sent on the foundation of thousands and thousands of years of preparation and difficulty (as shown in the OT). Jesus and God pulled a switcheroo. By God giving up Jesus, and Jesus willingly accepting the hit, he accomplished victory over death and established the foundation to reclaim ALL of humankind.
If your explanation is correct, it's just another example of how God is actually directing the operation using his established strategies via the designated instruments: Trump, the US Mil intelligence, and the US people (and the rest of us).
Wow! Thank you for that post!
Makes sense, right?
But it goes deeper.
Consider a few presumptions and then tie them all together (just like Q wants us to tie together all the crumbs, drops, and phrases that point to the greater map):
God gives free will to humans as his children. This is required because true love can only happen when true free will is involved. God wants his children to love him of their own free choice. Also, God, as creator, has free will, thus his children must also have free will. Without that, we would be servants or slaves, not children.
God's plans are always for the greatest good and the benefit of his children. But he also is confronted with the reality that his children might fail and use free will in a way that damages his plan. This leads to 3.
God's plans involve a) God's portion of work and b) man's portion of work. Only when the two combine correctly does God's plan and ideal become manifest. Only then. (There are reasons why this must be so; for man to inherit dominion over all creation, we must qualify. How? By fulfilling our own portion of the work. Thus, when man also contributes via free will, then he can inherit the position of his Father, become the Owner of the creation, under his Father's sovereignty. If God gave that ownership without Man (Adam) doing anything, then he would be open to accusation from the Angels, and from Creation.)
The 'commandment' (Word) of God given to man was necessary for Man to then apply free will, unite in faith with that command, and through doing so, also become a co-creator and thus heir to God.
Put these all together and the implications are staggering. Together, these presuppositions point directly to one thing:
Confusion around this point has mislead many, many faithful readers of scripture to misinterpret the meaning of prophecy. The truth is that God gives more than one prophecy for any event or outcome. To illustrate this, look at God's words to Cain in Gen 4:7 "If you do what is right, will you not be accepted? But if you do not do what is right, sin is crouching at your door; it desires to have you, but you must rule over it.”
In other words, do well, and you will be accepted by God. Do wrong, and .... sin will master you. Tragically, Cain chose wrong, using his free will, and murdered his brother, solidifying Satan's control over himself, instead of being freed to unite with his brother and receive God's blessing.
Many people mistakenly think that the different prophecies in the old testament scripture pertain to either Jesus or the Second Coming. What people need to understand is that in fact, the different prophecies (e.g. in Isaiah) pertain all to Jesus. What...? Yes. How can we be sure?
Jesus himself makes it 100% clear in Matt 11:13: "For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John." Until John. The prophets all prophesied for things to happen until John. They were not prophesying about anything after Jesus.
The different prophecies in Isaiah, for example, prophecy that when the Messiah comes, he will be a man of great glory, sitting on the throne of David. But he also prophecies that he will be a man of great suffering, rejected and persecuted.
The reason why these two types of prophecy exist is because of 5. above. What decides it? If the Israelites did well (believed in Jesus) he would be accepted, raised to the Throne of Israel, and the Kingdom would come both in spirit AND in flesh right there. Jesus would rule, Israel would become greater than Rome, and the kingdom would spread throughout the world.
But if the Israelites did not do well? If they failed to have faith in Jesus, to recognize him? Tragedy would ensue, Jesus path would be one of suffering and rejection.
I know this is a lot for some folks to wrap their head around, but it makes sense.
Corroborating evidence:
Luke 7:48 Then Jesus said to her, “Your sins are forgiven.” Jesus could forgive sins even BEFORE the cross.
Matt 11:20 Then Jesus began to denounce the cities in which most of His miracles had been performed, because they did not repent.
Note: He WANTED them to repent.
If you look at the scripture with the idea that Jesus did everything he could in order to turn Israel AWAY from faithlessness to a place of having faith in him, it becomes clear that THIS was God's will and Jesus will.
So then what happened with the Cross? Why did it become necessary?
God prepared Israel for 2000 years, starting from Abraham's family. He worked, labored to lead them and raise them as a righteous people, dedicated to Him and separated from Satan (all the other peoples of the world being under Satan's dominion). Every time they failed, loss faith, he worked a providence to bring them back, to reform them. The details of those 2000 years of work are recorded in the OT.
Thus, in God's entire providence to save the WHOLE World, he chose Abraham's family and descendants as the representatives of all humanity to have faith in Christ when he comes. When, however, the israelites as a whole rejected Jesus, then, like Cain, God and Jesus had no choice but to hand them over to Satan, losing all the 2000 years of work of separation and purification.
Like Cain, they failed. And in this way, the foundation for all of humankind to return to God was lost, claimed by Satan. And Satan closed in for the kill, thinking that if he could destroy Jesus body, the sacred body and presence of God on earth for the first time since Adam, then he would win.
Thus, Jesus, consulting with Moses and Elijah in the spirit, came up with the only plan reasonably possible: "We'll let Satan kill me. I'll pay the price for Israel's faithlessness. I pay the price for their rejecting me. And then, on that foundation, I will build a NEW israel, and expand the providence to continue forward. It means I'll have to complete it at a Second Coming, but it's the only way now, because they have fallen into complete faithlessness".
Of course, I'm illustrating the point by what I believe must have been the discussion and dialog between Jesus, Moses and Elijah (Mt. Transfiguration). Obviously, this is not scripture. But I believe it expresses the reality well.
Note that directly AFTER the Mt of Transfiguration, only THEN did Jesus begin to talk about his death, and about a second coming. Check it out. It's true.
What's my point here: we need to understand that for God to allow Jesus to give up his life - a life that was destined to be the most glorious, wonderful life accomplishing all of God's hopes for his original son Adam - was the most painful thing that God ever experienced. I believe that even the Fall of Adam and Eve, while shocking, was NOT as painful as GOd seeing his true son suffering not only physically, but being rejected in hatred by the people that he (Jesus) loved beyond anything.
Have you ever felt the pain of being utterly rejected by someone you love deeply and sincerely? Multiply that by infinity, for God's pain.
What about Jesus? He WANTED to remain on earth and accomplish a glorious life. Why? Because he KNEW that this was God's great desire. He knew that God would suffer deep pain if he had to go the way of the Cross. (He knew also that if he went that way, all his disciples and many Christians would have to go that way too.) That's the real reason Jesus prayed as he did in Gethsemane. Not out of fear, or weakness? No, out of the deepest desire to find any possible way to fulfill the original plan, fulfill God's desire for his Son to be dressed in Glory, and loved first by Israel, then all the world. Jesus NEVER prayed from weakness, although of course he suffered in the flesh like any man would, the suffering in his heart was much, much greater.
Luke 19:41 "And when he was come near, he beheld the city, and wept over it"
He wanted to remain, if possible, for God, for his followers, and for Israel itself. However, Jesus greatness is revealed when finally, he ALWAYS honored his Father. "Not my will, but thine."
Plan A: Israelites receive Jesus as prophesied, and he becomes the King of Glory, much much greater than Solomon and his kingdom established in the flesh then and there. Requirement: faith by Israel to receive the Messiah, then unity with the Messiah.
Plan B: Israel rejected Jesus, as prophesied as well, and he walks the path of suffering, ultimately paying the price for the rejection of Israel, and postponing the Kingdom on Earth until the Second Coming. Requirement: faith by Christians to receive the Messiah, then unity with the Messiah at Second Coming.
Contingency plans. God makes contingency plans based on whether or not the chosen one(s) fulfill their work in free will and faith.
I say all this merely to further illustrate the principle that God's strategy is to take the hit, and use that to reclaim lost ground (and any ground Satan has is lost ground, because it ALL originally belonged to God).
Is it any wonder that we resonate with the saying from DJT: "I take all of these slings and arrows for you"? No, because he is reflecting Christ, following Christ, and also enduring the hit for the sake of the nation of the USA.
Cheers.
When we give our heart to him, he will never let us down. I'm so glad to hear you'll pray through this. So important to sift through everything using prayer.
"For now we see in a mirror, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I have been known"
Thanks (very much) for the feedback.
Wonderful post!
Correction though, the Transfiguration happens very shortly after the first prediction of his death, but before the second prediction. The first prediction comes directly after Peter confesses that Jesus is the Son of God.
Thanks for the correction. I need to revisit this.
For me, the key point is that there was a turning point in Jesus' ministry where he changes tack significantly, from attempting to awaken the people to predicting and preparing for the Cross.
Thank you for your deep and meaningful thoughts on God's love for us and free will.
I believe God prepares us for life with Him for all eternity by challenging our partnership to trust Him through our hardships and refines us like gold.
Very moving post fren...blessings!
Amen! And, I agree...this plot has red herrings and twists galore. Thankfully, God wins!
This is brilliant! What an eye-opening observation. It is worthy of a post.
No kidding! That may be the most insightful and encouraging explanation I've ever read on the subject. I know some stubborn normies who might actually listen to this without rejecting it out of hand.
I’m just glad you were able to decipher my tire gibberish. I need some sleep.
I've said from the beginning pence is likely white hat. He literally said at a space force speech "we are running the most complex military operations in US HISTORY."
There wasnt anything going on in the middle east so what the hell do people here think he was talking about?
I believe Christopher Miller said that to Pence, but point is well taken.
I think you are right but I think Trump picked pence for a reason and I also think Miller was a white hat because videos of him interacting with troops were so organic and real whereas the lefty generals don't even associate with the unwashed enlisted.
Agree.
This really gives a perspective that I enjoy - I never thought Pence back-stabbed Trump and the little bit of back and forth has seemed very contrived, thus I just kind of ignored it. Regardless if this is Pence not having the courage or if this was his planned action I couldn't imagine the aftermath from the left had he taken any action personally to declare Trump the winner - I believe Trump would choose the fraudulent defeat vs. a burning America. Although I still see enough Q proofs recently to break my "could be coincidence" threshold. The Q proofs that happen are setup and carried out in order to give assurance to us anons that things are still going to plan. NCSWIC!!!
Some Q proofs are also intended as pointers to the "more" in "you have more than you know".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dxfq-09RbLc
In other words, there is more to it than mere assurance. Q was and is counting on anons to carry out the work of decoding and learning the comms, learning the plan, and then educating those around us in preparation for the "future proves past" and "news unlocks the map".
The Pence betrayal narrative never sat well with me... I can normally sniff out the corrupt ones and he just never set off any of my alarms. Quite the contrary actually.
Of course, for now I'll can humbly admit I was wrong if needs be... but I do hope Pence comes out on the right side when all is said and done.
Hm but what about him getting the letter during the funeral?
I think that was to deceive the black hats into thinking he was trustworthy.
This.
Nah look at his demeanor when he hung around with the bushes, waay more jovial and relaxed than ever as VP. Traitor. Going (went?) down.
We'll see what happens...
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This is exactly what I think. It’s what he did with Bannon.
This article is wrong, the individual State Delegations cannot unilaterally reject their state’s slate of electors. It takes a majority vote from each chamber to reject electors. All Pence did was follow what had been done in most elections, he entertained objections. None of these objections would have been successful.
The most troubling thing Pence did was issue the letter where he declared he was powerless to stop the steal. The letter was a reckless act in an already charged atmosphere. It was completely unnecessary unless you were trying to lend plausibility to the false flag by providing a reason for MAGA supporters to be angry. No letter, no motive.
Interesting.
Cates could be saying that the States (collective) have a choice to debate the issues and choose whether or not to withdraw the Biden electors. But in saying "THEIR Biden electors" he is implying that yes, individual states could choose alone, which I think you're correct in pointing out is not the case.
However, the core premise of the article - that Pence did nothing 'wrong' per say. Pence did not do anything not legal.
Also, the premise of the article is that in fact, it's Kabuki. Which seems a very solid perspective. You're suggestion that Pence's action in the letter is troubling only makes sense if the premise if Kabuki is wrong. If it's right, then the letter is just part of the play.
Do you agree or disagree with the basic premise of the article, that Pence is simply working with Trump and taking a necessary 'legal' course that in fact sets up the DS?
Disagree. The same end result of letting the steal happen could have been achieved without the letter. Pence could have gone through the same motions, made it appear he was trying to stop the steal, but blocked by procedure.
The letter served one purpose, to set up the narrative that MAGA had motive to attempt an insurrection. Without that letter the false flag would have been pointless because MAGA would have believed at that time we still had a chance to prevail. Where Pence and the DS miscalculated is over 99.9% of MAGA was wise to the potential for a false flag. Only a mere handful of MAGA supporters took the bait.
The false flag timing was not to block the potential for Congress to reject Arizona’s electors, that would not happen, the Dems had the votes. The purpose was to prevent compelling evidence of fraud being entered into the record. It provided the cover to disband and return later with the excuse to dispense with meaningful challenges and rubber stamp the steal.
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