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Eyewitness Reports Indicate Ukrainian Army Fired First Shots in War with Russia (covertactionmagazine.com) BREAKING NEWS
posted 4 years ago by Dogsoldier2 4 years ago by Dogsoldier2 +368 / -0
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– Smallworld16 24 points 4 years ago +24 / -0

https://youtu.be/LKAt56zW0-g

This video admits that the US has been supplying Ukraine with RPGs and Missiles to attack and provoke Russia with...

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– Crusty_Bungus 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

We gave them Javelins too, that's not news...is it?

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– HatePickingUserNames 22 points 4 years ago +22 / -0

This article (like all news) must be read with a skeptical eye. It is clearly the Russian government's propaganda on the current situation. You should no more blindly trust this article than you would any of the propaganda in the western MSM.

At this point, the whole picture surrounding this situation doesn't make sense based on the information available which includes this article. What that normally means is there are things happening behind the scenes that are not being reported. Reality always makes sense. When things don't make sense it means we don't know the whole picture.

Some things to consider:

  1. Xiden lifted the Nord Stream 2 sanctions (originally imposed by Trump) allowing it to be completed. Note that this is the pipeline that would allow Russia to transport more of its gas around Ukraine. If Xiden is truly opposed to Putin and Russia, why do this? Did Putin buy Hunter $50 worth of crack and he put in a good word for him to Xiden? The German chancellor has now suspended certification of the pipeline which was to be expected, but it also begs the question: Did they re-start the pipeline's construction so they could stop it again or did they genuinely not see this sitation coming?

  2. Under Xiden, the Baltic Pipeline's construction has been paused. This is a pipeline from Norway, through Denmark, to Poland. If you truly want to stand up to Russia, you would want to support the construction of alternate natural gas pipelines into Europe to reduce their reliance on Russian energy. Xiden has failed to put any pressure on European authorities to allow for this pipeline's construction to continue.

If you put 1 and 2 together, it seems that under Xiden, Russia has actually been getting their way far more than under Trump. This makes it difficult to say what Putin's true side is in our current world situation. What we can say is that Xiden and the deep state have been cutting Putin more slack than Trump. The question is, why?

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– magavoices 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

One of the underlying gists of Q is that Xiden isn't really in control. Trump is in control.

There's also speculation that Trump, Putin and Xi are trying to bring down the cabal, together.

That would mean, if Russia is getting a favorable deal, that it was arranged by Trump.

In abstract, the situation is on the other side of the world to the US. We have no legitimate business trying to direct what happens over there. Can you imagine the outrage if Putin was interfering with a pipeline from Mexico to the US?

So we don't even have a horse in that race, aside from keeping profits out of the hands of the cabal.

Also, for all we know, these actions going on in Ukraine right now are patriots cleaning up the cabal.

100% fog of war. Even if we knew the exact situation on the ground, we wouldn't know what that means in the greater picture of war against the cabal.

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– 335K 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Optics? (Re: Why? vis a vis Trump).

Great comment, thanks.

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– muhqtardtho 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

I'll have more flexibility after the election.

  • Hussein to Medvedev in 2012
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– WhoBuiltTheCagesJOOO 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Q said Putin was controlled. I have yet to find a plausible scenario why he would say that and it be disinfo, which it very well could be but I couldn’t find a reason why, yet.

With your comment added to Uranium 1, it’s either shaping up that they were to use that to go to war with Russia or they’re all in on it & your points 1 & 2 would make option B much more likely.

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– Europeade 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Putin is WEF, no?

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– KickingPugilist 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

According to something Klaus said, but the dates don't line up. WEF young global leaders started after Putin was presiding IIRC

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– Europeade 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I'm well aware of all the Putin theories and the money planes and kicking out farm from Russia etc. Let us see. Fog of war is dense.

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– Atlas117 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

1992 was the first WEF global leaders program, It only became the WEF young global leaders program later. (cant remember the year.)

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– Brent75 14 points 4 years ago +14 / -0

Sounds true, but we’ll have to wait and see for confirmation. Good article report though Anon.

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– tchouk 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

That doesn't matter in the slightest.

It's like that meme with the adult shaking a child and screaming "just tell me what you want".

Ukraine is squarely in Russia's sphere of influence and Russia wants this fact to be respected. They've been literally asking to for this since at least 2002. That is literally how long this conflict has been building

And after 20 years of waiting and building strength, they are no longer asking, but telling the world how it will be: Ukraine will not be used as leverage and security risk against Russia. Ukraine is not free to decide whatever it wants under western patronage.

Basically, Russia put on its big boy pants and started acting like a superpower acts. I.e. this sort of action is something the US does all the time and no one really questions it because everyone realizes and respects that the position of power held by The States.

The question now is can Russia fill those big boy pants and actually withstand the backlash like a superpower should.

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– deleted 10 points 4 years ago +10 / -0
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– GetsTheNogginJoggin 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0

Would support claims that Russia was firing interceptors for missiles launched by Ukraine as well.

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– Bluridgegirl2 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0

DS baited Ukraine to shoot first- they HAVE to have this war...Trump says watch Xiden and Taiwan...FOX, Bongino, Gorka are blaming Putin and going along with MSM on this-

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– KickingPugilist 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

I used to really like Bongino but he has been pretty bad on topics like election theft and now this apparently.

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– deleted 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0
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– Mcmurdo32 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

I hope all these globalist shenanigans in the world don't turn into "let's blame America for giving us the globalists" in the brave new world. True, our extensive infrastructure gave the globalists a means to conduct operations in the world, but we didn't know any of it.

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– RustyShackleford777 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Gotta protect Biden's dirty laundry...

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– Dontstopbelieving 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Media already suggested that Russian false flag might could make this seem true. In other words Russia started it and if you have contrary information then it is just evidence of a false flag that they warned us about. Heads I win tails you lose. Msm is propaganda

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– MisprisionIsEvil 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Ukraine and Kiev have been infiltrated by the cabal, just like the US and DC.

Putin is fighting the deep state. When Putin talks about the West, he means the deep state.

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– Crusty_Bungus 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Why sticky Russian propaganda?

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– Whiskey4Lunch 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Umm this really seems like Russian propaganda written for a Western audience. Like Josef Goebbels level bad.

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– carazariah 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Although this may be propaganda I play an online game with players world wide. One gal friend I play with lives in Eastern Ukraine and indicated Ukranian forces had been attacking Donbesk? (Sp) for the past two weeks. While this is part of Ukraine this is the area on the map with the very high Russian loyalty group that did not vote for secession. This report somewhat mirrors her first hand account. And when she said it even I was surprised that this would be the case.

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– deleted 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0
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– Humbled1 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Interesting read, compelling enough I am sending the article to a liberal friend that recently told me this war was Trump's fault. He will probably call it "fake news", the irony...

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– Cabal-Bot 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

These other countries would all cheer if America got bombed- not one would lift a finger for us. Americas Allie’s are not her Allie’s so makes me think are her enemies our real enemies? In the words of Idiocracy- Shits all fucked up! 😆

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– WestCelt 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

nah, I don't think so. this smells.

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