Alleged Ukrainian leaked document states 75% of Ukraine military destroyed and 40% of country captured
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The majority of Ukraine is quite obviously violently opposed to Russia's invasion. There have been zero clips of liberation "celebrations".
When you say "quite obviously", you're referring to what you've seen on propaganda feeds such as Western MSM right? Or do you have some actual information sources?
Name checks out.
He is referring to his 4 am talking points.
Prove me wrong...
Knock yourself out.
The narrative on this forum is way... WAY off base.
That’s because here we do not deal in narratives. Only research and logic.
I think this right here is the problem. For once this board has grabbed hold of a narrative that they like and just ran with it. Anyone that speaks against that narrative gets down-voted and shamed. They are called names like glowie and shill for no reason other than they disagree. Funny how that is exactly how the leftists operate on other online platforms???
The facts on the ground at this point are muddy at best. Half of the videos we see make less and less sense. The more we see the less sense any of it makes.
If you think the Ukrainian people want Putin to rule over them... you are a fucking retard. TO BE CLEAR!!! When I say Ukrainian people I am referring to the majority of the population that speak Ukrainian as their native language living in the Western 2/3rds of Ukraine. More over if you honestly believe them being under the thumb of Putin is what's best for them... you are a fucking retard. Although, I admit the current setup of being shadow ruled by Soros and the evil cabal of idiots isn't any better, but I digress...
The fact you can show 1-2 videos of small towns in the far eastern side celebrating Russian troops doesn't mean Ukraine as a whole feels that way. And frankly if you were told celebrate when the troops roll in or get shot... you'd do it too. Don't say that isn't a possibility because you know it is. Back to its muddy at best.
You say you deal in facts, but this is the REAL TRUTH! WE HAVE NO FACTS!!! WE DON'T KNOW! Why? Because both sides are experts in BULLSHIT!
I suggest you check yourself. Look back closely at what you believe are facts and you will find after close examination it is confirmation bias.
I've noticed one other curious thing... A LOT of people that frequent this board appear to be Russian. Interesting how suddenly all of them are rooting for Putin... and creating a pro Russian narrative... HMMM...
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He who makes a claim shall come correct with sauce
This is so funny. You want this place to give you a certain narrative? Or should you be trying to find out why the narrative here is so different from what you find elsewhere?
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-votes-against-anti-nazi-resolution-at-united-nations/#app
https://youtu.be/CpV16BQfbrQ
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cohen-ukraine-commentary-idUSKBN1GV2TY
https://fpc.org.uk/the-unique-extra-parliamentary-power-of-ukrainian-radical-nationalists-is-a-threat-to-the-political-regime-and-minorities/
(Editor’s Note (February 2022): It has come to our attention that this piece has been used in online debate seemingly to give credence to Russian propaganda that Ukraine or its Government is a ‘neo-nazi’ state or that there is some legitimacy to President Putin’s claims that his central war aim is ‘denazification’. This essay does not make that case so we would urge it not to be used for that purpose.)
^^just more evidence that the media is scrambling to try and cover up the fact that they literally reported about everything that would support Putin’s claims regarding seeking to de-nazify Ukraine.
The reason you believe wholeheartedly that our "narratives", are off on this forum, is because you have been conditioned to have all your beliefs pre-selected, and pre-chewed for you by the mainstream media. You have utter disregard for the numerous instances in which our media has deliberately collaborated with the federal government to manufacture and push verifiable false and contradictory narratives on the American public in order to foster support for their own selfish ulterior motives.
These people have no regard for the truth and you are a naive fool for continuing to believe they have any integrity or desire for honesty in their reporting.
You bring the proof when you make the claim this ain't reddit.
Funny how I saw people celebrating in the streets.
You wont see celebrations until strongholds such as Mariupol and Odessa are completely routed out of the neo-nazis. Until then people are just trying to keep themselves alive to enjoy their freedoms.