Jesus was really born on September 11 if the Bible is truly the Word of God, which I believe it is. The Book of Revelation talks about the position of the stars at the time of the birth of Christ and astronomical computer software was used to determine when those conditions could possibly have been met.
Really makes you wonder why George H.W. Bush chose to give this speech to Congress on September 11, 1990, which just so happened to be 11 years before 9/11/2001-
Clearly, no longer can a dictator count on East-West confrontation to stymie concerted United Nations action against aggression. A new partnership of nations has begun.
We stand today at a unique and extraordinary moment. The crisis in the Persian Gulf, as grave as it is, also offers a rare opportunity to move toward an historic period of cooperation. Out of these troubled times, our fifth objective–a new world order–can emerge: a new era–freer from the threat of terror, stronger in the pursuit of justice, and more secure in the quest for peace. An era in which the nations of the world, East and West, North and South, can prosper and live in harmony. A hundred generations have searched for this elusive path to peace, while a thousand wars raged across the span of human endeavor.
Today that new world is struggling to be born, a world quite different from the one we’ve known. A world where the rule of law supplants the rule of the jungle. A world in which nations recognize the shared responsibility for freedom and justice. A world where the strong respect the rights of the weak[!]. This is the vision that I shared with President Gorbachev in Helsinki. He and other leaders from Europe, the Gulf, and around the world understand that how we manage this crisis today could shape the future for generations to come.
The test we face is great, and so are the stakes. This is the first assault on the new world that we seek, the first test of our mettle. Had we not responded to this first provocation with clarity of purpose, if we do not continue to demonstrate our determination, it would be a signal to actual and potential despots around the world. . .
Once again, Americans have stepped forward . . . At this very moment, they serve together with Arabs, Europeans, Asians, and Africans in defense of principle and the dream of a new world order. . . .
I’ve never read or heard this full speech before, only clips of the “New World Order” reference. When you read it through, it actually appears quite beautiful, that countries will unite, that the strong will take care of the weak, etc.. it’s really too bad that the New World Order is expected to be run by a select few, because the concepts of world peace would be so goddamn wonderful. The evil one tends to appear as the “angel of light”. Enter Q….
As much as I agree that the Catholic Church is as evil as it comes…the immaculate conception is referring to The conception of Mary, her birth is 9 months later sept 8. They say she was conceived without sin, hence immaculate conception.
Plus Dec 25 is almost certainly not the actual day of Jesus' birth. It was a way to keep the pagan celebration held that day but rename it as Christmas.
Superficially, I agree with you. Once you dig into all the lies of modern Christianity, you realize getting back to the truth, is paramount. It’s really the only way forward, here.
Yes it does matter. Just like words used in the bill of rights words and details matter.
Lack of details allows the enemy to deceive even the "righteous". Xmas is a perfect example. What (or who) is actually being worshiped on 12/25? Or the 1st day - the day of the SUN.
Meanwhile, the Bible says all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God, and that includes Mary.
Jesus also made it clear Mary is no different than the rest of us on numerous occasions.
Luke 11:14-28 (Verses 14-26 are for context and you can skip to the end for tl;dr)
14 And he was casting out a devil, and it was dumb. And it came to pass, when the devil was gone out, the dumb spake; and the people wondered.
15 But some of them said, He casteth out devils through Beelzebub the chief of the devils.
16 And others, tempting him, sought of him a sign from heaven.
17 But he, knowing their thoughts, said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and a house divided against a house falleth.
18 If Satan also be divided against himself, how shall his kingdom stand? because ye say that I cast out devils through Beelzebub.
19 And if I by Beelzebub cast out devils, by whom do your sons cast them out? therefore shall they be your judges.
20 But if I with the finger of God cast out devils, no doubt the kingdom of God is come upon you.
21 When a strong man armed keepeth his palace, his goods are in peace:
22 But when a stronger than he shall come upon him, and overcome him, he taketh from him all his armour wherein he trusted, and divideth his spoils.
23 He that is not with me is against me: and he that gathereth not with me scattereth.
24 When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest; and finding none, he saith, I will return unto my house whence I came out.
25 And when he cometh, he findeth it swept and garnished.
26 Then goeth he, and taketh to him seven other spirits more wicked than himself; and they enter in, and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first.
27 And it came to pass, as he spake these things, a certain woman of the company lifted up her voice, and said unto him, Blessed is the womb that bare thee, and the paps which thou hast sucked.
28 But he said, Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it.
So Jesus is preaching and is accused of working with Beelzebub after casting out demons. He states the oft-quoted "Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and a house divided against a house falleth." (As an aside, we are witnessing the truth of this statement in real time in the United States...).
After Jesus is done saying this to a crowd trying to tempt him, a woman shouts "Blessed is the womb that bare thee, and the paps (teats, nipples) which thou hast sucked." (Note: The Hail Mary prayer contains the same sentiment, does it not?)
What was Jesus's response?
Without dishonoring his mother, He replies, "Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it."
Luke 8:20-22
20 And it was told him by certain which said, Thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to see thee.
21 And he answered and said unto them, My mother and my brethren are these which hear the word of God, and do it.
Jesus obeyed the commandment to honor his father and mother even to His death. It's not that He did not love His mother. Rather, He knew it was important for her not to be worshipped, as that's a violation of the second commandment (the one the Roman Catholics removed and also pretend they don't violate because they "venerate" statues and relics rather than "worship" them), so he continuously pointed people back to the word of God.
John 19:25-28
25 Now there stood by the cross of Jesus his mother, and his mother's sister, Mary the wife of Cleophas, and Mary Magdalene.
26 When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy son!
27 Then saith he to the disciple, Behold thy mother! And from that hour that disciple took her unto his own home.
You can read the rest of it for further investigations and proofs, but here's the single paragraph explaining the date itself-
The Precise Position of the Moon is Important
Now note this point. Since the feet of Virgo the Virgin represent the last 7 degrees of the constellation (in the time of Jesus this would have been between about 180 and 187 degrees along the ecliptic), the Moon has to be positioned somewhere under that 7 degree arc to satisfy the description of Revelation 12. But the Moon also has to be in that exact location when the Sun is mid-bodied to Virgo. In the year 3 B.C.E., these two factors came to precise agreement for about an hour and a half, as observed from Palestine or Patmos, in the twilight period of September 11th The relationship began about 6:15 p.m. (sunset), and lasted until around 7:45 p.m. (moonset). This is the only day in the whole year that the astronomical phenomenon described in the twelfth chapter of Revelation could take place.
This also shows one other important point. The Moon was in crescent phase. It was a New Moon day, the start of a new lunar month. (See plates one and two below which show early depictions of the celestial scene of Revelation 12:1–3 and how the Moon is shown to be in its crescent phase.)
Do you think the Immaculate Conception refers to the conception of Jesus? Incorrect. It refers to the conception of Mary as she had to be free from sun to carry the Son of God.
Exactly. It is the seed of man that carries the sin we all inherit, not the seed of woman. Therefore Jesus was not born of the seed of man, but of the Spirit. Mary was a sinner and she worships Jesus like all believers.
And you consulted God on this little detail? These things are way beyond my pay grade. And, I’ll wager, yours. How about we both live pure and blameless lives and when we die we’ll be able to see God face to face and find out the Truth directly from HIM?
Oh yeah I be sure to take your advice. You sound REALLY smart. Ha ha ha.
Seriously though, if you don't know what you are talking about, STFU, ok? If you can't respect something enough to know what it is, then seriously shut the fuck up about it, got it?
Whatever the fuck you are trying to be, this is my advice: you need to stop circle jerking your buddy. This is a crippling level of stupidity. Jesus weeps. Here's thing thing - you are so stupid, you may wind up hurting his little weenis with your retard strength.
But I got to hand it to you, you earned a few upvotes, so apparently you have a lot of stupid,easily frightened little dicks to choose from. So go blow away as many faggots as you wish! Just remember, the important part here is for you to go away.
And please, coax your fed army away with your very capable dick beaters.
Or begin to understand the incredible acuteness of your Dunning-Kruger curve and get a clue.
The Nag Hammadi is an interesting read.
Find the oldest bible you can aquire and compare to modern ones. Try to comprehend 2k years of that.
Interpretation varies just like a statistic.
Dec 8 the immaculate conception......Birthday Dec 25.
Jesus was really born on September 11 if the Bible is truly the Word of God, which I believe it is. The Book of Revelation talks about the position of the stars at the time of the birth of Christ and astronomical computer software was used to determine when those conditions could possibly have been met.
Really makes you wonder why George H.W. Bush chose to give this speech to Congress on September 11, 1990, which just so happened to be 11 years before 9/11/2001-
https://archive.ph/9bnaV
I hope people understand the importance of this post.
It's so important it broke the webpage.
I’ve never read or heard this full speech before, only clips of the “New World Order” reference. When you read it through, it actually appears quite beautiful, that countries will unite, that the strong will take care of the weak, etc.. it’s really too bad that the New World Order is expected to be run by a select few, because the concepts of world peace would be so goddamn wonderful. The evil one tends to appear as the “angel of light”. Enter Q….
Was there a speechwriter for this speech? If so, who was it?
Who wrote it, and who gets credit for writing it, are I'm sure two different things...
GHWB was one of the most evil to have lived. Evil emulates good
As much as I agree that the Catholic Church is as evil as it comes…the immaculate conception is referring to The conception of Mary, her birth is 9 months later sept 8. They say she was conceived without sin, hence immaculate conception.
Plus Dec 25 is almost certainly not the actual day of Jesus' birth. It was a way to keep the pagan celebration held that day but rename it as Christmas.
That is correct.
Does it really matter what day we celebrate Jesus’ birth? What matters is he was born. Why get caught up on the trivial?
Superficially, I agree with you. Once you dig into all the lies of modern Christianity, you realize getting back to the truth, is paramount. It’s really the only way forward, here.
Yes it does matter. Just like words used in the bill of rights words and details matter.
Lack of details allows the enemy to deceive even the "righteous". Xmas is a perfect example. What (or who) is actually being worshiped on 12/25? Or the 1st day - the day of the SUN.
Meanwhile, the Bible says all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God, and that includes Mary.
Jesus also made it clear Mary is no different than the rest of us on numerous occasions.
Luke 11:14-28 (Verses 14-26 are for context and you can skip to the end for tl;dr)
14 And he was casting out a devil, and it was dumb. And it came to pass, when the devil was gone out, the dumb spake; and the people wondered.
15 But some of them said, He casteth out devils through Beelzebub the chief of the devils.
16 And others, tempting him, sought of him a sign from heaven.
17 But he, knowing their thoughts, said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and a house divided against a house falleth.
18 If Satan also be divided against himself, how shall his kingdom stand? because ye say that I cast out devils through Beelzebub.
19 And if I by Beelzebub cast out devils, by whom do your sons cast them out? therefore shall they be your judges.
20 But if I with the finger of God cast out devils, no doubt the kingdom of God is come upon you.
21 When a strong man armed keepeth his palace, his goods are in peace:
22 But when a stronger than he shall come upon him, and overcome him, he taketh from him all his armour wherein he trusted, and divideth his spoils.
23 He that is not with me is against me: and he that gathereth not with me scattereth.
24 When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest; and finding none, he saith, I will return unto my house whence I came out.
25 And when he cometh, he findeth it swept and garnished.
26 Then goeth he, and taketh to him seven other spirits more wicked than himself; and they enter in, and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first.
27 And it came to pass, as he spake these things, a certain woman of the company lifted up her voice, and said unto him, Blessed is the womb that bare thee, and the paps which thou hast sucked.
28 But he said, Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it.
So Jesus is preaching and is accused of working with Beelzebub after casting out demons. He states the oft-quoted "Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and a house divided against a house falleth." (As an aside, we are witnessing the truth of this statement in real time in the United States...).
After Jesus is done saying this to a crowd trying to tempt him, a woman shouts "Blessed is the womb that bare thee, and the paps (teats, nipples) which thou hast sucked." (Note: The Hail Mary prayer contains the same sentiment, does it not?)
What was Jesus's response?
Without dishonoring his mother, He replies, "Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it."
Luke 8:20-22
20 And it was told him by certain which said, Thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to see thee.
21 And he answered and said unto them, My mother and my brethren are these which hear the word of God, and do it.
Jesus obeyed the commandment to honor his father and mother even to His death. It's not that He did not love His mother. Rather, He knew it was important for her not to be worshipped, as that's a violation of the second commandment (the one the Roman Catholics removed and also pretend they don't violate because they "venerate" statues and relics rather than "worship" them), so he continuously pointed people back to the word of God.
John 19:25-28
25 Now there stood by the cross of Jesus his mother, and his mother's sister, Mary the wife of Cleophas, and Mary Magdalene.
26 When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy son!
27 Then saith he to the disciple, Behold thy mother! And from that hour that disciple took her unto his own home.
Where is that theory? The popular idea is it is Jesus's bday, intrigued
Look up 'birth of Jesus Sept 11th'
Wait... is that connected to 9/11?
You can read Ernest L. Martin's The Star of Bethlehem: The Star That Astonished the World for free here-
https://www.askelm.com/star/
Here's a link to the specific chapter where Martin describes how he derived the exact date-
https://www.askelm.com/star/star006.htm
You can read the rest of it for further investigations and proofs, but here's the single paragraph explaining the date itself-
The Precise Position of the Moon is Important
Do you think the Immaculate Conception refers to the conception of Jesus? Incorrect. It refers to the conception of Mary as she had to be free from sun to carry the Son of God.
She didn't need to be free from sin to be chosen by God to carry Jesus. Nobody is free of sin.
This is Mystery Babylon teaching.
Exactly. It is the seed of man that carries the sin we all inherit, not the seed of woman. Therefore Jesus was not born of the seed of man, but of the Spirit. Mary was a sinner and she worships Jesus like all believers.
And you consulted God on this little detail? These things are way beyond my pay grade. And, I’ll wager, yours. How about we both live pure and blameless lives and when we die we’ll be able to see God face to face and find out the Truth directly from HIM?
Romans 3:23
For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
What part of all is too hard for you to understand?
You either believe the Bible is the Word of God or you believe the traditions of the Roman Catholic Church.
When I see God face to face, the only thing that's going to save me is Yashua as my lawyer.
The Immaculate Conception refers to the Blessed Mother’s conception. Her birth is typically celebrated September 8.
Oh yeah I be sure to take your advice. You sound REALLY smart. Ha ha ha.
Seriously though, if you don't know what you are talking about, STFU, ok? If you can't respect something enough to know what it is, then seriously shut the fuck up about it, got it?
Whatever the fuck you are trying to be, this is my advice: you need to stop circle jerking your buddy. This is a crippling level of stupidity. Jesus weeps. Here's thing thing - you are so stupid, you may wind up hurting his little weenis with your retard strength.
But I got to hand it to you, you earned a few upvotes, so apparently you have a lot of stupid,easily frightened little dicks to choose from. So go blow away as many faggots as you wish! Just remember, the important part here is for you to go away.
And please, coax your fed army away with your very capable dick beaters.
Or begin to understand the incredible acuteness of your Dunning-Kruger curve and get a clue.