Everyone here seems 100% fine with that. Apparently nobody cares about America, Americans, or American military personnel. All anyone here thinks about here is "Russia good", "America bad".
You're the fucking simpleton. How is the general a traitor? Literally, if he were not there, against orders, that would make him a traitor and he would face a court martial, but now he faces being tortured or mistreated for doing his duty. What you really mean when you say he's a traitor is, "I don't want him there", but that does not make him a traitor. The real traitors are the ones rooting for our own people to be placed in danger.
I think maybe you just don't know the definition of treason.
The general is in a nazi camp (documented fact that azov have supported nazi's - have a black sun emblem on their uniform) This is a war zone and like it says, they're foreign soldiers in a war zone, conspiring with Russia's target, azov)
So either the US is offering support with boots on the ground, which the whitehouse is saying we are not, their not following orders and doing this against command's orders or the US is complicit in supporting the nazis and the extremists in Ukraine.
How are we to see it any other way that those facts?
If the whitehouse doesnt back him and admit we have boots on the ground, then he is a solider of fortune, going against the military code and should be delt with accordingly.
Your knowledge of the US military is obviously non-existent. Flag level officers do not have to do anything they don't want to. They get an order they don't want, they retire, they get caught doing anything illegal, they retire. There is no force among flag level officers. Do a bit of research, they are splashed in the media and it goes away. The Admirals and Generals are not court marshalled. The embarassment and the whistleblowing put a halt to this. These guys know the dirty secrets and cannot be punished and silenced like the juniors. They also have enough years on the books to walk out the door with a fat retirement. If you had served in the military, you would not only know this, you would have actually seen this.
Wrong. If I was in a room with an Antifa and a member of an invading army and I had two bullets, Iโd shoot the Antifa twice. At least the invader is honest.
Russia, a country we are practically at war with, now has additional leverage over us. Further, we are losing influence on the international scene. None of this is "neutral" for us.
I think you are missing the fact that we do not want to be where we are on the international scene and that siding with worse baddies (Nazi Ukraine) is not how we should gain influence on the international scene. The best thing the US can do to secure its influence on the international scene is to extricate the cancer from within and show the world how you get your country in order and rid it of corruption that affects the world. If Russia ends up aiding in that then they will be a good guy in that moment, but right now it is clear that Russia is not the threat but Biden and all the other domestic enemies that seek our destruction and are willing to use the country to be a new Nazi Germany in disguise.
As for everything else you have said, it is only relevant to international traders and profiteers. There is no "us" here buddy. You either care about America, or you care about your profits.
You're getting reported like hell but I'm leaving these up and you functioning. Think this through, David. How exactly are we practically at war with Russia??
Biden is. Don't you dare try to include every day Americans in that. If we are meddling, I don't want any part of it. If NATO was planning an attack after all and Russia pre-empted, good for Russia.
I don't support anyone who supports war with Russia. There is literally no reason for it. They trade us fertilizer, food, and fuel and all we have done is shit on them, repeatedly, after we pushed for the dissolution of their communist government and continued trying to destroy them while they were down.
Additionally, my "care" for this country and its citizens have been going away quite rapidly as we seem to just kill each other and obey our overlords, glued to the mainstream media and the next outrage.
If you believe that any war with Russia right now is actually justified in any form on our part, you are exactly the type of person I no longer care about.
It's not Russia that started shit. Even if Russia physically attacked us first, the number of economic sanctions placed on them are grounds enough for a war.
To reiterate: Sanctions are themselves an act of war, and they are only defensible due to our ability to project force. We are allowing the destruction of our ability to project that force, so you better fucking not use language like "WE ARE AT WAR WITH RUSSIA WAAAAH", because we have no justification for a war against Russia.
At least you must agree that however that general got there it was a colossal blunder by the Biden Admin. Now the US is at war. By blunder rather than by strategy.
You must be a new redpilled convert? UKRAINE. IS. NOT. A. N A T O. COUNTRY...... NATO forces have no business being in Ukraine. If those US soliders are part of nato they should not be there. If they are there for any other reason to oppose Russia they should not be there. Why u.s that so hard to understand??
Why should we be at war with Russia? Why support Ukraine? Why send high ranking military officers to the front line of someone else's war? Why didn't the West leave Ukraine as a neutral territory?
This entire situation could have been avoided and it's hard to feel sorry for the US government or any of its employees at this point. The US gov starts or gets involved with at least half of the wars in the world. There are some good people in any large organization, but as a whole, the US gov is a seriously nasty Mafia.
I'm through with supporting the US military just because they are supposedly fighting for my freedom. As far as I can tell, that's a whole lot of bullshit.
I'm not an American, but I can see you've only stated your argument without considering why people here don't support those Americans who are within Ukraine.
If those generals are in cahoots with the Nazi battalion in Ukraine, why the fuck would anyone in their right mind think those generals are working for the good of the American people?
It's a stupid argument you make, the people here support American Patriots, not American traitors.
You would have to be wilfully blind to ignore that.
Almost everyone here has opened their eye enough to realise every country has its people and its deep state, and its deep state is what is "bad" and the people are "good".
That's because you're dismally misinformed. Hit the books! You've got a LOT of catching up to do. Maybe try and stay away from MSM and click-bait narratives, while you're catching up.
If this is true, then Biden will have no choice but to condemn those generals for going of unauthorized, and Russians can do with them as they please.
Biden is a demensia patient pedophile idiot. He canโt even think or make decisions, he is a mere puppet who cannot condemn anything.
Everyone here seems 100% fine with that. Apparently nobody cares about America, Americans, or American military personnel. All anyone here thinks about here is "Russia good", "America bad".
Says the simpleton. Heโs a traitor. Do we care about American traitors? Yes, we want them courtmartialed & punished accordingly.
The current American admin & military is being ran by foreign hostiles. Fact.
You're the fucking simpleton. How is the general a traitor? Literally, if he were not there, against orders, that would make him a traitor and he would face a court martial, but now he faces being tortured or mistreated for doing his duty. What you really mean when you say he's a traitor is, "I don't want him there", but that does not make him a traitor. The real traitors are the ones rooting for our own people to be placed in danger.
I think maybe you just don't know the definition of treason.
โTortured or mistreated for doing his duty.โ Seriously, you think it was his duty to be there?
The general is in a nazi camp (documented fact that azov have supported nazi's - have a black sun emblem on their uniform) This is a war zone and like it says, they're foreign soldiers in a war zone, conspiring with Russia's target, azov)
So either the US is offering support with boots on the ground, which the whitehouse is saying we are not, their not following orders and doing this against command's orders or the US is complicit in supporting the nazis and the extremists in Ukraine.
How are we to see it any other way that those facts?
If the whitehouse doesnt back him and admit we have boots on the ground, then he is a solider of fortune, going against the military code and should be delt with accordingly.
The fact he was there shows heโs part of the deep state, period. He deserves whatโs coming to him.
You lost me at "Literally".
Russia has so far shown no evidence of torture or mistreatment of prisoners. In fact quite the opposite
Seriously? What the F is he doing there?
Your knowledge of the US military is obviously non-existent. Flag level officers do not have to do anything they don't want to. They get an order they don't want, they retire, they get caught doing anything illegal, they retire. There is no force among flag level officers. Do a bit of research, they are splashed in the media and it goes away. The Admirals and Generals are not court marshalled. The embarassment and the whistleblowing put a halt to this. These guys know the dirty secrets and cannot be punished and silenced like the juniors. They also have enough years on the books to walk out the door with a fat retirement. If you had served in the military, you would not only know this, you would have actually seen this.
So is this Azov camp in Mariupol located in Arizona?
Wrong. If I was in a room with an Antifa and a member of an invading army and I had two bullets, Iโd shoot the Antifa twice. At least the invader is honest.
Hmm handshake account seeking to bait and troll people...
I see.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbvYeLxMKN8
Russia, a country we are practically at war with, now has additional leverage over us. Further, we are losing influence on the international scene. None of this is "neutral" for us.
I think you are missing the fact that we do not want to be where we are on the international scene and that siding with worse baddies (Nazi Ukraine) is not how we should gain influence on the international scene. The best thing the US can do to secure its influence on the international scene is to extricate the cancer from within and show the world how you get your country in order and rid it of corruption that affects the world. If Russia ends up aiding in that then they will be a good guy in that moment, but right now it is clear that Russia is not the threat but Biden and all the other domestic enemies that seek our destruction and are willing to use the country to be a new Nazi Germany in disguise.
No, we are not at war with Russia, nor have we been since 1918.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_of_war_by_the_United_States
As for everything else you have said, it is only relevant to international traders and profiteers. There is no "us" here buddy. You either care about America, or you care about your profits.
Now go put your money where your mouth is:
https://www.militarytimes.com/flashpoints/ukraine/2022/02/27/want-to-go-fight-for-ukraine-heres-what-to-do/
You're getting reported like hell but I'm leaving these up and you functioning. Think this through, David. How exactly are we practically at war with Russia??
We are not at war with Russia.
Biden is. Don't you dare try to include every day Americans in that. If we are meddling, I don't want any part of it. If NATO was planning an attack after all and Russia pre-empted, good for Russia.
I don't support anyone who supports war with Russia. There is literally no reason for it. They trade us fertilizer, food, and fuel and all we have done is shit on them, repeatedly, after we pushed for the dissolution of their communist government and continued trying to destroy them while they were down.
Additionally, my "care" for this country and its citizens have been going away quite rapidly as we seem to just kill each other and obey our overlords, glued to the mainstream media and the next outrage.
If you believe that any war with Russia right now is actually justified in any form on our part, you are exactly the type of person I no longer care about.
It's not Russia that started shit. Even if Russia physically attacked us first, the number of economic sanctions placed on them are grounds enough for a war.
To reiterate: Sanctions are themselves an act of war, and they are only defensible due to our ability to project force. We are allowing the destruction of our ability to project that force, so you better fucking not use language like "WE ARE AT WAR WITH RUSSIA WAAAAH", because we have no justification for a war against Russia.
At least you must agree that however that general got there it was a colossal blunder by the Biden Admin. Now the US is at war. By blunder rather than by strategy.
China is the real threat you simpleton.
Imperialist mindset.
You must be a new redpilled convert? UKRAINE. IS. NOT. A. N A T O. COUNTRY...... NATO forces have no business being in Ukraine. If those US soliders are part of nato they should not be there. If they are there for any other reason to oppose Russia they should not be there. Why u.s that so hard to understand??
Why should we be at war with Russia? Why support Ukraine? Why send high ranking military officers to the front line of someone else's war? Why didn't the West leave Ukraine as a neutral territory?
This entire situation could have been avoided and it's hard to feel sorry for the US government or any of its employees at this point. The US gov starts or gets involved with at least half of the wars in the world. There are some good people in any large organization, but as a whole, the US gov is a seriously nasty Mafia.
I'm through with supporting the US military just because they are supposedly fighting for my freedom. As far as I can tell, that's a whole lot of bullshit.
We got ourselves a live one
We got ourselves at least two. Just on this post.
lol if he did this, he is a traitor.
Russia would be doing us a favor if they offed him at that point.
I'm not an American, but I can see you've only stated your argument without considering why people here don't support those Americans who are within Ukraine.
If those generals are in cahoots with the Nazi battalion in Ukraine, why the fuck would anyone in their right mind think those generals are working for the good of the American people?
It's a stupid argument you make, the people here support American Patriots, not American traitors.
You would have to be wilfully blind to ignore that.
Almost everyone here has opened their eye enough to realise every country has its people and its deep state, and its deep state is what is "bad" and the people are "good".
Americans good. American deep state bad.
Aw, poor fellow learning the truth.
That's because you're dismally misinformed. Hit the books! You've got a LOT of catching up to do. Maybe try and stay away from MSM and click-bait narratives, while you're catching up.