Yup, this happens to me aaaallllllllllll the time!
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I successfully spent two hours using facts and date to prove that wearing a mask does nothing to slow the spread of disease.
The Leftist then said, "I agree they probably do nothing, but I just feel better when I wear one. And I think everyone should wear one anyway in case they do help."
u/#headturn
There is no point to digging up the information. They are going to disregard all evidence and go with their feelings anyway.
I disagree. It is essential to show the evidence in detail. Those that dismiss it, like in your example, are still forced to work through the cognitive dissonance. It primes them for asking questions of the narrative at a later time when the narrative attacks something they have more personal knowledge of (which I think is going to happen in every sphere).
Getting someone to agree with one particular piece of evidence is not really all that important (unless it directly threatens their life, like the "vaccine"). Getting people to be willing to question the narrative is really all that matters for the GA. Even if it doesn't work today, that first seed is planted. The water of further, more personal exposure will bring it to life.
I should have clarified. There is no point in digging up the information for those who don't do the work to try and find their own answers. It is a waste to do all the work. If someone wants to find answers, it is good to help them.
If they come to you looking for answers that is different.
But brainwashed people are in what is called circular logic. This is how cult's maintain their power. Facts will bounce right off of people stuck in that. I dig a lot, but that is for myself and to share what I find with people who are interested.
I still disagree. If someone is willing to listen, even if they end up disagreeing, or otherwise finding an excuse to hold onto the narrative, it STILL primes them for future questioning of the narrative. So in this case, "the point" would be to help them survive what is coming.
Our job is to do exactly that. It's not about "proving" any particular point. It's not about Trump, or Pizza/Russia/Obama/Clinton/Whatever gate. It's not about the vaccine (though in this case, it could save lives). It's not about masks, or Critical Race Theory, or Gender Confusion, or anything. It is about surviving what is coming. It is about not being in the 4-6%.
The point of doing the work is not for you, or for any of those points, but for them; even if they don't realize it yet.
Yes, and every time they are forced to use that circular logic to appease the cognitive dissonance, it primes them for future evidence that doesn't fit their world view; that isn't quite right based on their own experience. I have seen this happen myself. A person will barely acknowledge the evidence, working it back into the narrative, but then future things, that they have personal knowledge of, that don't fit the narrative are questioned, and awakening happens.
Hell, this is pretty much exactly how my initial awakening happened. I knew about all sorts of shit that was fucked up. I knew that 911 was likely an inside job. I knew that the Patriot Act was FUBAR. I knew that Benghazi stunk to high heaven, that Clinton was evil as fuck and a pathological liar, and that the media was saying non-truths (I didn't realize at the time it was actual lies (aka Intentional non-truths, I thought it was just excessive bias)) but it never occurred to me that there might be a bigger picture; a deeper fraud; an intentional Matrix.
It wasn't until the election that I was forced to dig deeper. I was never really a fan of Trump. I knew the media was lying about him for five years, and I knew his policies were actually pretty good, but I found him to be arrogant and annoying. Little did I know at the time why he spoke the way he spoke (reinforcement of facts to counter brainwashing, speaking in code, etc.). Regardless, I voted for him, because... Joe Biden??? But I didn't really care about the outcome that much. When he started losing I thought, Oh well, it can't be worse than Obama, or Bush.
But I have done a lot of data analysis in my life. I have done a lot of experimental measurements, including on large data sets and large populations. The election data was wrong. It was screaming at me. I started digging. I worked on it about 20 hours a day for a month. I proved mathematically a hundred ways from Sunday that the election data was fraudulent, in multiple states. After I had proven that to myself. After I realized it was possible that there could be a conspiracy on that level, THEN I started digging into other things in earnest.
It wasn't until it was numerical data, one of my specialties, that I made the connection. But the other fuckery I had seen before primed me to see it.
I had former co-workers dismiss me as being brainwashed because I DIDN'T believe the MSM version of the Jan 6 protest/Capital incursion.
You can lead a horse to a fish. Man drink, day fish one forever.
Underrated comment..
Yes, this is important. They still hear you & they may later wake up.
"I agree that sending a bitcoin to bubble_bursts is not gonna do anything, but I just feel better if everyone sends bubble_burst a bitcoin just in case it does something good"
iq 5 BILLION my dude XD
I just dont talk to liberal npc smooth brains about politics, covid, etc. They are too far gone. I dont even want to be near liberals or where they live either.
I take that additional time and put it towards something creative.
Liberals cant create only destroy.
Concerning the masks, I see this too. I don't know if it is cognitive dissonance I'm dealing with or idiocy. Wearing face masks not only 'don't work', but they are very harmful and a vector for cultivating and spreading disease. Wearing a mask causes cancer through hypercapnia and acidosis. It's actually worse than smoking cigarettes. Those people I see wearing face masks is a good sign they are already mRNA vaxxinated and may not have long to live. I stand clear of anyone wearing a mask and will not have my children in proximity of them.
Never Wrestle with a pig, you will get mud all over you and the pig loves it.
So all normies are pigs? Who is interested in teaching the masses what you all have learned in a rational, easily understood way? Or does everyone need to be a decoding autist starting at ground zero in order to understand things? It seems to me that we need people to bridge the gap and have some patience.
No, theres tons of info out there thats easy to understand that the autists have created. The problem is normies dont want to watch an hour and a half documentary about the cabal and their moves against trump. They see "trump" and they think biased. They justify not watching an hour "biased" video when they could be watching friends on netflix cause thats gonna make them laugh and feel good. As it points out in the meme they only accept short and to the point bullet points of facts, like reading out guilty verdicts at the end of a court proceeding. Anything that requires more time and effort than that and they simply do not care. They will take the path of least resistance.
A masterful educator/reformer will meet a person where they are at and bring them along for the ride. I'm not saying you or anyone else has to do such a thing, but I hope we all agree someone who is willing and able to do so is highly appreciated and encouraged. No excuses, no laziness, no intolerance.. but patience and determination like an ocean removing a mountain.
Somehow this reminded me of the follow up survey I just got asked to fill out from the hospital yesterday on how well the level of care I received was. I gave nearly all positive answers, but in the comment section at the end, I went off about the mask Nazis and how the governor dropped all mandates, yet the hospital kept the mask one, how they have been proven Not to work and how the labels on the box state that they do not protect against coronavirus and that I will continue to fight back and protest against trying to take away my God given freedom to breathe fresh air which as an asthmatic and my husband having restrictive lung disease as a resilt of his aortic stenosis surgery from dissection we really need the fresh air and we never consented to have our freedoms removed.
Even if they cede the point they go back to their original idea tomorrow since it's the culture of accepted ideas in their living room that matters in their day to day life.
It truly is an emotional argument, and we know how overly emotional the leftists are. A Pringle falling to the ground could get them crying.
Or a snowflake hitting the ground
Well, yes, if a PRINGLE falls, that calls for tears.