People who know the moon landings where a cold war psyop
People who have never done the slightest research into the subject.
here is a nice starter for ten.
I particularly love the Space suits made by Playtex (yes the bra maker) and the magic folding car. (lets not even discuss the environmental operational limitations of 1960's battery's)
I do have an interest, more so with the secret space program as i am over the idea you can fly to another solar neighbour on a big firework, yep PM if you can
Guys. You are embarrassing me. Yes we went to the moon.
How do I know? Because my two older brothers worked at JPL on Ranger through Voyager. I later worked for NASA in planetology as a scientist. I have touched hardware that is now way far out in space. My brother's name was inscribed with the other people's names on a piece of hardware that ended up on the moon.
I have to think some of the people pushing the idea are trying to make us look like nuts.
It is reasonable to send up a dummy instrumented with sensors to detect the many kinds of radiation found in space to design better space suits etc. I'm not ok with a lot of what NASA is doing that is wasteful, but this thing actually makes sense for them to do it.
You don't know though - you merely believe through abject appeal to authority. And frankly, if you are a scientist you should know better :(
I have to think some of the people pushing the idea are trying to make us look like nuts.
Kookifying, they call it. It does seem that way, but truth is stranger than fiction because fiction is obliged to possibilities... Would you care to have an earnest discussion with someone with different views than your own, in the collaborative pursuit of truth? If you earnestly engage, i think you will find the conversation rewarding regardless of if it has any impact on your perspectives (or vice versa - on my perspectives!)!
Normally I do engage in discussions with people who disagree.
The problem is that I am a personal witness. My brother did the programming for reassembling the data stream into pictures. I did work as a scientist at JPL/NASA but I didn't like taking tax money from people for my salary so I left.
What do you do when you are a personal witness to something and someone says it never happened? They essentially say I am lying. It's hard to have a discussion with someone who simply says you are lying.
I saw with my own eyes. They say I'm a liar.
I welcome your advice on how to handle that. I'm stumped, and I really wonder if that person was just there to make us look stupid.
Normally I do engage in discussions with people who disagree.
Most excellent! It can be very tedious, and I can appreciate wanting to "pick your battles" carefully. Ars longa, vita brevis.
The problem is that I am a personal witness
I do not doubt that. In fact, I am most interested to explore (if you are interested to share) what you have witnessed, for the benefit of all!
I did work as a scientist at JPL/NASA but I didn't like taking tax money from people for my salary so I left.
That's boss. I doubt many have the same qualms. JPL/NASA is a pretty sweet gig, depending on job responsibilities/security. Walking away was likely not easy, and I massively respect your will and principles.
What do you do when you are a personal witness to something and someone says it never happened?
Tough question. The normal thing is to flippantly discard them, especially when you have first hand knowledge and they have something distinctly lesser (or nothing at all!). Perhaps the more "considerate" thing is to potentially hear them out anyway, on the slim chance that you have been fooled/misled.
My contention is not that you have not witnessed the things that you witnessed!
I saw with my own eyes. They say I'm a liar.
Well, in fairness - you could be!! I could be too, and in truth we both are! But I don't think you are lying about this, and my initial perspective is one of "benefit of the doubt". I assume you are telling the truth until I have good reason to question/challenge that. Also, people who rush to declare something a lie, and the speaker a liar are most often overlooking the most common (essentially inevitable) possibility - being incorrect! Can't anybody just be wrong anymore? Do they have to automatically be a liar?! I'm sorry for your past experiences, sincerely. I've been called a liar, and a shill, and disearnest by scores at the drop of a hat :( It is not conducive to conversation :(
I'm stumped, and I really wonder if that person was just there to make us look stupid.
It is a distinct (and maybe most likely) possibility. The flat earth psyop and the zealous useful idiots it encourages are trained to attack and divide. Anything but encourage collaboration and earnest discussion/exchange. Anyone who threatens your religion must be attacked with prejudice. Typical dogmatic cult behavior :(
As for advice, I wish I had some to give. For the disearnest (the agents of the psyop) there is no remedy, for the earnest (useful idiots, confused) sometimes deescalation and polite discourse can get through!
You have an abundance of wisdom. Thank you for sharing it with me.
There were some qualms about leaving NASA/JPL but the reality is that I would have had to be a lying ass kisser to remain there, and I'm not very good at that. They actually do as little science as possible so as to have an excuse to get more grant money.
I could tell you what I witnessed if you are interested. Perhaps you could narrow it down, as I have a long list of things witnessed over the years. Even before I worked there my brothers did so my experiences span decades.
You have an abundance of wisdom. Thank you for sharing it with me.
I don't know about wisdom, but whatever I may have, I try (and it is best ) to share!
They actually do as little science as possible so as to have an excuse to get more grant money.
That is sad, but not altogether unexpected based on my understanding.
I could tell you what I witnessed if you are interested. Perhaps you could narrow it down, as I have a long list of things witnessed over the years. Even before I worked there my brothers did so my experiences span decades.
It would be my sincere and great pleasure, and I am quite interested!
I would love to know more about your experiences, as well as your brothers! Would you consider having the discussion on the community i created? NP if you'd prefer to continue here, but I think others there would also benefit from your experience too! It is my hope that people looking for such first hand accounts would benefit from finding them there in the future as well (not lost in a, largely unrelated, thread on a largely unrelated community)
As for narrowing it down, why don't we start with what evidence you have for outer space existing in any way, shape, or form! Based on my study, such a place is entirely fictional and a total violation of the scientific laws we know of.
I watched the official moon landing footage for the first time not too long ago. I think it was on the anniversary. And boy was I cracking up. My Playstation 1 had better graphics than that "footage". Not to mention the astronaut that said we were watching a simulation, can't remember which one said it. Then the little things like there was no delay in the audio, or who set the camera up on the moon to watch the landing. Definitely some things that make you go hmmm. Just point your normie friends to the official moon landing YouTube channel and make them tell you its real. Not saying we didn't go to the moon, but what was shown on live television was not the real moon landing
Once, I tried to tell my parents that we didn’t land on the moon…..that conversation had no traction at all! I think they would disown me before admitting they were fooled.
Having America come clean and admit that we didn’t land (“walk around”) on the moon would in my top five wish list of truths that need to come out.
I am curious about one thing. On the moon your weight is one sixth of what it is on Earth, and there is no air resistance. Your muscles are still developed for Earth, meaning you will be stronger, six times stronger?
Why do you then move in slow motion at half pace on the moon? Exactly half pace.
I was sitting in front of the TV staring in wonder as the first step was taken on the moon. They even got through the Van Allen (firmament) radiation belt. Now they have lost all the data and the technology to go back.
Another example of how stupid/gullible they believe the masses are. (Unfortunately, the past two years - heck, the past few decades - have proved that FAR too many ARE that stupid/gullible.)
They didn't just "lose" it, they willfully destroyed it and knowingly told their subcontractors to destroy all their records as well (rather than house them at the national archives, smithsonian, etc.)
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Do yourself a favor and watch the moon landing footage. If you take the time to do that you will immediately break the spell they have over you. Just watch it. It's a hilarious garbage movie that couldn't be possible in any capacity. They need you distracted so you don't actually watch the footage with fresh eyes. It's 2001 space odysee level of cgi. Getting people to simply do this can open the road to dialogue of what else is a complete lie. I always like to ask myself what else am I not seeing before I try to preach to others to wake up. Many of us are still balls deep in the money spell. Remove the planks. God bless and God speed my friends.
THIS story makes me doubt we ever went to the moon.
Lol. Study into "outer space" and nasa will tend to do that.
The moon is not a rock that magically floats above our heads and never falls, nor is it made of cheese. That's stupid!
Space is entirely unscientific, fake, and gay.
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hhahah There are only two types of people .
here is a nice starter for ten. I particularly love the Space suits made by Playtex (yes the bra maker) and the magic folding car. (lets not even discuss the environmental operational limitations of 1960's battery's)
https://centerforaninformedamerica.com/moondoggie/
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I'm a big fan of macgowan (who was murdered for his investigative journalism), rip.
I do have an interest, more so with the secret space program as i am over the idea you can fly to another solar neighbour on a big firework, yep PM if you can
Yup. We did not go to the moon or even left the planet. Planet. Hmm.
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Soungs good. PM me the link
... Replicant testing....
Guys. You are embarrassing me. Yes we went to the moon.
How do I know? Because my two older brothers worked at JPL on Ranger through Voyager. I later worked for NASA in planetology as a scientist. I have touched hardware that is now way far out in space. My brother's name was inscribed with the other people's names on a piece of hardware that ended up on the moon.
I have to think some of the people pushing the idea are trying to make us look like nuts.
It is reasonable to send up a dummy instrumented with sensors to detect the many kinds of radiation found in space to design better space suits etc. I'm not ok with a lot of what NASA is doing that is wasteful, but this thing actually makes sense for them to do it.
No we did not. Wakey wakey. Time to be an adult.
You don't know though - you merely believe through abject appeal to authority. And frankly, if you are a scientist you should know better :(
Kookifying, they call it. It does seem that way, but truth is stranger than fiction because fiction is obliged to possibilities... Would you care to have an earnest discussion with someone with different views than your own, in the collaborative pursuit of truth? If you earnestly engage, i think you will find the conversation rewarding regardless of if it has any impact on your perspectives (or vice versa - on my perspectives!)!
Normally I do engage in discussions with people who disagree.
The problem is that I am a personal witness. My brother did the programming for reassembling the data stream into pictures. I did work as a scientist at JPL/NASA but I didn't like taking tax money from people for my salary so I left.
What do you do when you are a personal witness to something and someone says it never happened? They essentially say I am lying. It's hard to have a discussion with someone who simply says you are lying.
I saw with my own eyes. They say I'm a liar.
I welcome your advice on how to handle that. I'm stumped, and I really wonder if that person was just there to make us look stupid.
Most excellent! It can be very tedious, and I can appreciate wanting to "pick your battles" carefully. Ars longa, vita brevis.
I do not doubt that. In fact, I am most interested to explore (if you are interested to share) what you have witnessed, for the benefit of all!
That's boss. I doubt many have the same qualms. JPL/NASA is a pretty sweet gig, depending on job responsibilities/security. Walking away was likely not easy, and I massively respect your will and principles.
Tough question. The normal thing is to flippantly discard them, especially when you have first hand knowledge and they have something distinctly lesser (or nothing at all!). Perhaps the more "considerate" thing is to potentially hear them out anyway, on the slim chance that you have been fooled/misled.
My contention is not that you have not witnessed the things that you witnessed!
Well, in fairness - you could be!! I could be too, and in truth we both are! But I don't think you are lying about this, and my initial perspective is one of "benefit of the doubt". I assume you are telling the truth until I have good reason to question/challenge that. Also, people who rush to declare something a lie, and the speaker a liar are most often overlooking the most common (essentially inevitable) possibility - being incorrect! Can't anybody just be wrong anymore? Do they have to automatically be a liar?! I'm sorry for your past experiences, sincerely. I've been called a liar, and a shill, and disearnest by scores at the drop of a hat :( It is not conducive to conversation :(
It is a distinct (and maybe most likely) possibility. The flat earth psyop and the zealous useful idiots it encourages are trained to attack and divide. Anything but encourage collaboration and earnest discussion/exchange. Anyone who threatens your religion must be attacked with prejudice. Typical dogmatic cult behavior :(
As for advice, I wish I had some to give. For the disearnest (the agents of the psyop) there is no remedy, for the earnest (useful idiots, confused) sometimes deescalation and polite discourse can get through!
You have an abundance of wisdom. Thank you for sharing it with me.
There were some qualms about leaving NASA/JPL but the reality is that I would have had to be a lying ass kisser to remain there, and I'm not very good at that. They actually do as little science as possible so as to have an excuse to get more grant money.
I could tell you what I witnessed if you are interested. Perhaps you could narrow it down, as I have a long list of things witnessed over the years. Even before I worked there my brothers did so my experiences span decades.
I don't know about wisdom, but whatever I may have, I try (and it is best ) to share!
That is sad, but not altogether unexpected based on my understanding.
It would be my sincere and great pleasure, and I am quite interested!
I would love to know more about your experiences, as well as your brothers! Would you consider having the discussion on the community i created? NP if you'd prefer to continue here, but I think others there would also benefit from your experience too! It is my hope that people looking for such first hand accounts would benefit from finding them there in the future as well (not lost in a, largely unrelated, thread on a largely unrelated community)
As for narrowing it down, why don't we start with what evidence you have for outer space existing in any way, shape, or form! Based on my study, such a place is entirely fictional and a total violation of the scientific laws we know of.
Why send fake humans? A rover would be more ideal.
But they wanna do it for the feels...
More propaganda it seems.
To take your taxes for worthless shit.
"Let's redo Adam & Eve"
Why is it on its back?
Watch it !! The moon landing is Christmas for boomers. It was our first global psy-op.
I watched the official moon landing footage for the first time not too long ago. I think it was on the anniversary. And boy was I cracking up. My Playstation 1 had better graphics than that "footage". Not to mention the astronaut that said we were watching a simulation, can't remember which one said it. Then the little things like there was no delay in the audio, or who set the camera up on the moon to watch the landing. Definitely some things that make you go hmmm. Just point your normie friends to the official moon landing YouTube channel and make them tell you its real. Not saying we didn't go to the moon, but what was shown on live television was not the real moon landing
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Send link please, couldn't find it
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Lol. Yeah, that's why the bitchy moon controls the menses cycle. Science!
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The earth is flat kids! Time for you that look into it
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Once, I tried to tell my parents that we didn’t land on the moon…..that conversation had no traction at all! I think they would disown me before admitting they were fooled.
Having America come clean and admit that we didn’t land (“walk around”) on the moon would in my top five wish list of truths that need to come out.
It is far easier to fool a man than it is to convince them that they've been fooled :(
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NASA admits we can't go to the moon - 2:22 minutes
NASA Admits We Don't Have The Technology - 53 seconds
NASA funded by Disney.
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Most people are oblivious as to the disney/military/nasa connection.
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Every stupid space/moon/planet/comet article is comms related and zero related to face value of story.
Interesting take. Would you consider sharing your views further?
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Exactly. Man befouls everything he can touch.
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I am curious about one thing. On the moon your weight is one sixth of what it is on Earth, and there is no air resistance. Your muscles are still developed for Earth, meaning you will be stronger, six times stronger?
Why do you then move in slow motion at half pace on the moon? Exactly half pace.
Lol. Because science! Of course! Also fake footage isn't possible, and everything you see on any tv/screen is always truth :)
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I was sitting in front of the TV staring in wonder as the first step was taken on the moon. They even got through the Van Allen (firmament) radiation belt. Now they have lost all the data and the technology to go back.
Not lost, purposely and purposefully destroyed by the [Hussein] Admin.
It was reported lost long before Nobama. How do you cover for something that never existed? You say you lost it.
Yeah, the moon landing was supposedly humanity's crowning accomplishment and they "lost" the technology/no longer have it? BULL SH-T!
Deleted all the records and footage too. Official story is they “taped over it”.
Another example of how stupid/gullible they believe the masses are. (Unfortunately, the past two years - heck, the past few decades - have proved that FAR too many ARE that stupid/gullible.)
:-(
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Absolutely interested
They didn't just "lose" it, they willfully destroyed it and knowingly told their subcontractors to destroy all their records as well (rather than house them at the national archives, smithsonian, etc.)
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You and most everyone else at the time! The tv, like media/press before it, was never made to inform the populous :(
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Get the "mannequins" rad proof first, then the neuro-link. You can't go to or survive on Mars, but your Avatar can!
In Chyna, we laugh at capitalist cats who think they can go to moon in Little Friskies can. ____ Chairman Meow-in-the-mix
Do yourself a favor and watch the moon landing footage. If you take the time to do that you will immediately break the spell they have over you. Just watch it. It's a hilarious garbage movie that couldn't be possible in any capacity. They need you distracted so you don't actually watch the footage with fresh eyes. It's 2001 space odysee level of cgi. Getting people to simply do this can open the road to dialogue of what else is a complete lie. I always like to ask myself what else am I not seeing before I try to preach to others to wake up. Many of us are still balls deep in the money spell. Remove the planks. God bless and God speed my friends.
Amen.
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Lol. Study into "outer space" and nasa will tend to do that.
The moon is not a rock that magically floats above our heads and never falls, nor is it made of cheese. That's stupid!
Space is entirely unscientific, fake, and gay.
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... Replicant testing....
I assume they found substantial health problems in the Apollo astronauts.