2 completely different noses different ears altogether, distance between upper lip and nose is huge. The biggest difference is the looks changed from 2016-now. By the way that picture you have up there from 2015 is incorrect that is the new Joe not the old. Oh yeah almost forgot. One has blue eyes one has hazel, one is left handed the other is right. Oh by the way wrinkles are pretty much the same on all people when they get older and as odd as you think this is most of them are in the same place. NOT JOE BIDEN.
I am a machine learning engineer. I have invented something within the machine learning field (I can't say without giving out the identity of who I am) My focus within machine learning is machine vision.
Conveniently? I had to find biden from several eras in the same orientation showing the right ear, with close to the same expression.
What you show is somewhat similar angles, vastly different expressions and guess what... They are still all biden. you need to focus on the details and you will see that there are specific markers on the faces You provided that match every image but unique to biden.
Crows feet are remarkably similar to everyone, is not a distinguishing mark. Besides, they change from picture to picture. Low effort, man.
Yes, ears same on first three. Can't see 4 well, doesn't seem right. 5, so he got what, a lobe extension, and split it, and attached it? Worst plastic Surgery ever.
Also the concha is inconsistent, like the plastic surgeon couldn't decide what to do. Last picture is definitely worse. Again, if same guy they made it worse and different. By a lot.
You would do better with a hair analysis. Hairline don't recede, then grow back, then change, then recede again, then go back again.
Actually, its not individual markers that is like a finger print, its the wrinkle map. Did you not even bother looking up this info? low effort man.
Also, they are the same pattern in each image, the images have slightly different expressions, the greater the expression change and age, the greater the change of the markings. this is not that hard to grasp. light conditions, angle etc.
You will also see, if you spend effort looking at his left side, that bidens left crows feet are completely different. no, you instead are the one who is low effort, instead of actually doing the research you jump to assumptions because its you who have cognitive dissonance, the proof is right in front of your face and you deny it without even doing a tiny but of looking. you probably saw the image and closed your eyes.
the ears are the same, its extremely hard to get good images of that side of his face due to his ear being ugly on his right side. even though its hard to see the indent you can CLEARLY see the web...
Concha is very much the same. You know what i will photoshop each image on top of each other to prove it.
ears get larger as we age. so does the nose, and unless you suffer from extensive bone loss, the distance from your mouth to your upper lip lengthens.
Pixie ear
Are you really going to tell me that you never heard of hair plugs, or hair growth formula, or hair transplants?
Hair: should not change back and forth depending on the month, or indoor/outdoor shots. Pick a month and look at the news releases pictures and videos. Compare month to month. That stylist should be fired for going back and forth if you are right.
Crows feet, correct, yet YOU are expressing individual wrinkle patterns, look at your image!
And no, they still don't match
Additionally, cherry picking what to respond to is fine, but still, you dont seem to be understanding the full picture. What celebrity or famous person gets surgery to only replicate the wrinkles they already have?!? Makes no sense.
There are millions of examples online. Who doesn't get rid of wrinkles and features they don't like. Even with touchups over time, makes no sense.
I'm not saying it makes him more pretty, I'm saying the idea of plastic Surgery, the procedures should be considered utter failures.
Hair grows, and is cut, and is shaped. It's always disregarded in cold-case forensics.
I point out each wrinkle pattern, to map as a whole. Your argument makes no sense. It would be like looking at a map of two different cities and you seem to think that because I have one street listed means that I have to look at only that street over time., no, you look at the map as a whole to determine if they are the same. You disregard the areas that change a lot and look at key markers altogether.
I am not cherry-picking, I have constantly answered every single statement/question from every single person.
Noone gets surgery to replicate wrinkles, they get surgery to reduce large forms, like baggage. To reduce wrinkles it would be injections and lasers. but eventually, those exact wrinkles come back. This is why its used in forensics. The only way to permanently remove the wrinkle is by scarring the skin.
Cold case? You are not CSI (or are you?), and unless you are intoning Biden is dead, you missed the point. Widows peak, hairline, etc. Do not change back and forth over short periods of time unless you have the worst makeup artist in the business. Or, are in fact different for another reason....
Wrinkles. Again, missed it. Trump, among others have alluded to Biden having cosmetic surgery. My point is if this is the case, wrinkles should be vanishing over time, not staying consistent. The very fact you believe you can identify them repeatedly over time strengthens the counterpoint that someone is wearing a mask, or the person is being touched up BECAUSE they want to look like Biden.
Yes. They get surgery to remove them. I can't really think of a time when his wrinkles were removed for a period of time as indicative of surgery. Can you?
Also, depending on what was done, there can be an extensive healing time. When did that happen? Even minor surgery still necessitates healing over time.
The conclusion is that IMO, Trump and possibly others suggested plastic surgery to bring attention to the fact he is in fact different, and a different person.
Lastly, I don't care if you cherry pick or not, that was my point. Not trying to be argumentative.
Actual facts: We know that Joe Biden has had extensive plastic surgery, which Trump has even commented on publicly. ("Why did he get all that plastic surgery if he's just gonna wear that big mask!)
So, with all the extensive plastic surgery he's had, to smooth out that ghoulish face, why would he still have certain markings that a plastic surgeon would have smoothed over?
The only conclusion is that those markings were specifically made.
You seem to be confused about the idea that a political double is supposed to look the same as the original.
Can you tell the difference between the Saddam doubles that we know existed? Or did they all look like Saddam?
In actual fact, it's not a traditional actor, more of an "organic robotoid" as described by the Dr. Beter audio tapes from the 70s/80s. That is, he is not a clone per se but clone-adjacent. Technology discovered interestingly enough in the Soviet era. They are operated by external programmers and have a holographic memory map of the original donor person. Thus, they can ideally recall events that the original experienced.
The same is said to have happened to Jimmy Carter.
Thing is, the shelf life is horrible, and while presumably they improved since the time of Dr. Beter, they are known to rapidly mentally fail past a certain point.
Remember when Jimmy Carter claimed to have been attacked by a giant rabbit?
"Joe" has the dementia excuse, but the fact remains that with this theory there is good reason why Biden was considered "the asset to use" for this. For all his downfalls, there had to be an upside to using him.
Regardless of your thoughts of my conclusion, the point still stands that it is clearly a secondary being and not the original Joe.
you mean the ai generated ones? or do you mean his very clear body doubles? i need specifics, if you have two examples from similar angles and lighting with enough detail to see wrinkle maps, i will gladly take a look
Explain the fake oval office, fake inauguration and 17 executive orders and I might open up a little that Bidan isn’t an actor wearing a mask enhanced by cgi
Actually my claim was that what you are detailing is a combo of mask and cgi enhancement. I would be disappointed if modern equipment for mass media production couldn’t get someone to look like somebody else.
Don't you think if anyone could do it, Disney could with their resources and wealth?
In yet Disney opts for pure CGI + Motion capture. and It's still clearly fake due to issues with eyes, and mouths and teeth being very well perceived by the human brain/eyes.
Can you explain how CGI could exist even from images of independent journalists?
Peoples lips wrinkle when they make the "w" with their mouth. do you not see his lips are much more stiff, while the other photo taken over 5 years ago is relaxed? I do not include data that is clearly dependent on a specific facial gesture. I suggest you look in the mirror and watch wrinkles from on your lips when you tighten them with a "w" and disappear when you relax them.
Peoples ears sag and grow as they age. The shape is very much the same. the lobs look attached from whats called pixie ear.
Again not going to include faulty data points. every image he has a different mouth shape to what ever sound he is producing at the time of the photo.
If you mean near the mouth, same as 3.
Ears? they do, I will photoshop them on top of each other.
Only with age tolerances. and facelifts. its public knowledge hes gotten them.
Wrinkle maps (as a whole) is a fingerprint. No two people have the same map.
( I will use logic reversal and point out faulty datapoints like you did.) you say 2004 and 1987 look to be the same. so I will use those.
1987 to 2004 mouth shapes are very different. one is very sharp.
The wrinkles from his ear towards his cheeks are not the same. one is present and one is not.
1987 he is missing a mouth. /s
Wrinkle near his mouth is shown in 2004 and missing in 1987
2004 ear tilts more than 1987
2004 eyes are way narrower than 1987.
If you use faulty point you get a faulty outcome. Just study facial forensic techniques for 1 hour.
There was also this interview that was supposed to be Hillary and it was someone a lot older than Hillary but they kept calling her Hillary and she was answering I'm guessing it was someone trying to use the deep fake technology and it glitched out. I don't remember if I saw it in 2020 or 2021
The wrinkle in the big red rectangle is off by A LOT. Old Biden has it more on the side of the head; compare with eye location too. Not very thorough, this comparison.
Do you not know forensics well? you dont look ate things individually. that would mean you would have to have exact expressions, lighting, and angle. you have to look at the entire thing as a map. pic out things the are consistently there. Your cognitive Dissonance it forcing you to make elaborate excuses for a simple fact.
SO forensics analysis is BS? Explain how these methods are BS.
These are the same techniques used to identify criminals of cold cases. So enlighten me.
OP, unless I missed this amongst all the wild-eyed theories about “deep fakes” and “robotoids”, I have one question to the folks who believe this horrific Resident we think we are seeing is not actually Joe Biden:
Even if it were possible, even if it were true, what would actually be the purpose of faking a Joe Biden? 🤔
These are communists. The notion is that robotoids were products of Soviet labs.
We know Biden pledged allegiance to the NWO by his triangle hand sign flashed in the Carmen Sandiego gameshow where he was a guest.
So say you have a purely programmable puppet (albeit one that's mentally failing) that has by design pledged allegiance to the NWO, and he has achieved a position of Vice President.
Now say that you're running out of assets AND losing the ability to recruit or control new assets.
Would you not try to hang onto your programmable puppet for as long as possible?
Does it make sense for Biden the Human to have such a large array of handlers and controllers?
Big Mike needed a team of 20 to maintain the illusion it was a woman.
How many handlers do you need to maintain the illusion you're human/competent?
Just off the top of my head, something happened to the original. Arrested, stroke, dementia, take your pick.
By itself not huge, but the original was very abusive and crass, swore like a sailor. Dropped F bombs on open mikes. We haven't seen that in a while aside from some campy remarks.
When RealJoe talks his bottom lip forms a v quite often, it almost pleats at times. You can see the beginning of it forming in bottom left photo above. I've never seen anyone else who has this as a facial expression to quite the same extreme. Study some old clips of him talking...that V shows up every 10-15th word.
I looked for it to appear in ResidentJoe, and it isn't there and none form as he talks.
It would be impossible to replicate and [they've] never tried to.
Also, RealJoe you see more of his top teeth when smiling.
ResidentJoe you see more of his bottom teeth when smiling.
RealJoe has a southern twang (it's subtle, but it's there). Research has shown that accents become permanent around the age of 12 years old. Listen to videos of him talking as a young senator in his 30's...the accent is there and it is set. FauxJoe does not have a southern accent...he has a whiny voice with entirely different inflections to his speech.
RealJoe has a much broader forehead than FauxJoe. Noses and earlobes grow because of the cartilage but skulls are bone and the shifts with age never narrow the forehead or elongate the skull [in the case of OldJoe]. Even thinning subcutaneous facial fat can't account for the elongation.
I agree. I think the premise that he is a double co trolled by the good guys is very troubling. It would mean that the good guys think the end justifies the means. Becuase if biden is controlled by the good guys, who are telling him to do very bad things, just so people turn to the good guys it would mean the white hats aren't all that good.
I’ve long loved the humor of the “Bidan” double theories (and the related almost-everyone-is-a-double! theories), but truly, these are pushed for the same transparent reason, from the same playbook, as that clownish “flat-earth” BS - cheap and easy discrediting and polluting of sources of inconvenient truth.
Are you telling me that in the geopolitical spy game, the only guy to ever have doubles in history was Saddam, and that nobody else ever had their hands on those kinds of services?
That when Saddam was found "in a spiderhole", that was the end of the doubles game?
Or is it more likely that high ranking corrupt politicians with endless money intent on child sacrifice and global war, who own Hollywood (the world of illusion), might have some more complex games going on than what Fox News tells you about the political process?
several big names have double, but these are called BODY-doubles because up close there is a very distinct difference. You will never find a double with the same wrinkle map and the same deformities as you.
Oh, yes. they have the tech to exact even wrinkles. what surgery is that called where they add wrinkles? and if they did make all these changes and had the tech to do so, why would they then ignore his earlobe which is an easy surgery?
Can you provide me with 2 images at a minimum, from similar angles, lighting, and expressions? they should have enough detail to make out wrinkles.1 from around 1965ish and 1 from 1967 ish?
2 completely different noses different ears altogether, distance between upper lip and nose is huge. The biggest difference is the looks changed from 2016-now. By the way that picture you have up there from 2015 is incorrect that is the new Joe not the old. Oh yeah almost forgot. One has blue eyes one has hazel, one is left handed the other is right. Oh by the way wrinkles are pretty much the same on all people when they get older and as odd as you think this is most of them are in the same place. NOT JOE BIDEN.
https://rumble.com/v14n3pj-boden-wrinkle-map.html
I am a machine learning engineer. I have invented something within the machine learning field (I can't say without giving out the identity of who I am) My focus within machine learning is machine vision.
Yup!
interesting...ambidextrous...hmmmm
HERE YA GO, BECAUSE I ACTUALLY DO MY WORK. https://rumble.com/v14n3pj-boden-wrinkle-map.html
Nope.
You conveniently left out the other 3 Bidens:
https://files.catbox.moe/5n6hy2.jpg
YES! The nose and eyes from 2011 to 2020 totally different!
What are you even looking at. No way those are the same ears. This is 100% a different person.
same ears, I will overlap them in photoshop for you since your cognitive dissonance is blinding you.
Here. I made you a video. https://rumble.com/v14n3pj-boden-wrinkle-map.html
Crows feet are remarkably similar to everyone, is not a distinguishing mark. Besides, they change from picture to picture. Low effort, man.
Yes, ears same on first three. Can't see 4 well, doesn't seem right. 5, so he got what, a lobe extension, and split it, and attached it? Worst plastic Surgery ever.
Also the concha is inconsistent, like the plastic surgeon couldn't decide what to do. Last picture is definitely worse. Again, if same guy they made it worse and different. By a lot.
You would do better with a hair analysis. Hairline don't recede, then grow back, then change, then recede again, then go back again.
Hair: should not change back and forth depending on the month, or indoor/outdoor shots. Pick a month and look at the news releases pictures and videos. Compare month to month. That stylist should be fired for going back and forth if you are right.
Crows feet, correct, yet YOU are expressing individual wrinkle patterns, look at your image! And no, they still don't match
Additionally, cherry picking what to respond to is fine, but still, you dont seem to be understanding the full picture. What celebrity or famous person gets surgery to only replicate the wrinkles they already have?!? Makes no sense.
There are millions of examples online. Who doesn't get rid of wrinkles and features they don't like. Even with touchups over time, makes no sense.
I'm not saying it makes him more pretty, I'm saying the idea of plastic Surgery, the procedures should be considered utter failures.
Cold case? You are not CSI (or are you?), and unless you are intoning Biden is dead, you missed the point. Widows peak, hairline, etc. Do not change back and forth over short periods of time unless you have the worst makeup artist in the business. Or, are in fact different for another reason....
Wrinkles. Again, missed it. Trump, among others have alluded to Biden having cosmetic surgery. My point is if this is the case, wrinkles should be vanishing over time, not staying consistent. The very fact you believe you can identify them repeatedly over time strengthens the counterpoint that someone is wearing a mask, or the person is being touched up BECAUSE they want to look like Biden.
Yes. They get surgery to remove them. I can't really think of a time when his wrinkles were removed for a period of time as indicative of surgery. Can you? Also, depending on what was done, there can be an extensive healing time. When did that happen? Even minor surgery still necessitates healing over time.
The conclusion is that IMO, Trump and possibly others suggested plastic surgery to bring attention to the fact he is in fact different, and a different person.
Lastly, I don't care if you cherry pick or not, that was my point. Not trying to be argumentative.
https://rumble.com/v14n3pj-boden-wrinkle-map.html
Now find images between 2004 and 1987.
Actual facts: We know that Joe Biden has had extensive plastic surgery, which Trump has even commented on publicly. ("Why did he get all that plastic surgery if he's just gonna wear that big mask!)
So, with all the extensive plastic surgery he's had, to smooth out that ghoulish face, why would he still have certain markings that a plastic surgeon would have smoothed over?
The only conclusion is that those markings were specifically made.
You seem to be confused about the idea that a political double is supposed to look the same as the original.
Can you tell the difference between the Saddam doubles that we know existed? Or did they all look like Saddam?
In actual fact, it's not a traditional actor, more of an "organic robotoid" as described by the Dr. Beter audio tapes from the 70s/80s. That is, he is not a clone per se but clone-adjacent. Technology discovered interestingly enough in the Soviet era. They are operated by external programmers and have a holographic memory map of the original donor person. Thus, they can ideally recall events that the original experienced.
The same is said to have happened to Jimmy Carter.
Thing is, the shelf life is horrible, and while presumably they improved since the time of Dr. Beter, they are known to rapidly mentally fail past a certain point.
Remember when Jimmy Carter claimed to have been attacked by a giant rabbit?
"Joe" has the dementia excuse, but the fact remains that with this theory there is good reason why Biden was considered "the asset to use" for this. For all his downfalls, there had to be an upside to using him.
Regardless of your thoughts of my conclusion, the point still stands that it is clearly a secondary being and not the original Joe.
This isn't an episode of terminator.
Based on the post, I'm assuming transsexual.
truth social
Ever ask yourself why movies in the 70s started using cloning as plot points?
And we know that what they roll out to the public is just the slightest fragment of what they've got available.
If what they've created is too radically different from where the public is at, it will cause a Future Shock that can implode a society.
That's why they have used decades of predictive programming to acclimate us to various ideas.
Explain the Saddam doubles.
you mean the ai generated ones? or do you mean his very clear body doubles? i need specifics, if you have two examples from similar angles and lighting with enough detail to see wrinkle maps, i will gladly take a look
nice, someone butthurt enough to downvote me for being open to looking as long as inhave the data needed? nice.
Now do Hillary.. she looks different in every picture lately 😋
Explain the fake oval office, fake inauguration and 17 executive orders and I might open up a little that Bidan isn’t an actor wearing a mask enhanced by cgi
No. I am explaining his face being the same. I dont need to go explain that to explain his face thats very flat-earther logic.
Actually my claim was that what you are detailing is a combo of mask and cgi enhancement. I would be disappointed if modern equipment for mass media production couldn’t get someone to look like somebody else.
Sorry, OP. There are too many substantive differences.
Examples just in these photos:
I am not convinced this analysis is correct, but I'm not an expert in this area. Everything about "President Joe Biden" has been faked so far.
This. Why would plastic Surgery maintain wrinkles? Doesn't even pas the "sniff test".
🤣🤣🤣
While I don't believe in robotic clones, watch this deepfake
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alc6R_UfPkc
Another with Obama
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLoI9hAX9dw
I do know they use body doubles
Teresa Barnwell is a Hillary impersonator.
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=teresa+barnwell&atb=v314-1&iax=images&ia=images
There was also this interview that was supposed to be Hillary and it was someone a lot older than Hillary but they kept calling her Hillary and she was answering I'm guessing it was someone trying to use the deep fake technology and it glitched out. I don't remember if I saw it in 2020 or 2021
I am in the machine learning field, invented something for ML even. I am very familiar and have worked on similar technology.
The wrinkle in the big red rectangle is off by A LOT. Old Biden has it more on the side of the head; compare with eye location too. Not very thorough, this comparison.
Do you not know forensics well? you dont look ate things individually. that would mean you would have to have exact expressions, lighting, and angle. you have to look at the entire thing as a map. pic out things the are consistently there. Your cognitive Dissonance it forcing you to make elaborate excuses for a simple fact.
You are spewing BS. Even Biden’s mannerisms have changed.
SO forensics analysis is BS? Explain how these methods are BS. These are the same techniques used to identify criminals of cold cases. So enlighten me.
Here you go. https://rumble.com/v14n3pj-boden-wrinkle-map.html
earLOBES. attached vs detached. This trait is genetically determined. Blaming difference on bad facelifts is FAKE and GHEY.
Look up, pixie ear. its a sign of a facelift.
Fake and Ghey, look it up.
Cognitive dissonance looks it up.
Nice try Shlomo, go back to Reddit
He's double trouble. That's enough evidence for me.
OP, unless I missed this amongst all the wild-eyed theories about “deep fakes” and “robotoids”, I have one question to the folks who believe this horrific Resident we think we are seeing is not actually Joe Biden:
Even if it were possible, even if it were true, what would actually be the purpose of faking a Joe Biden? 🤔
Having a purely programmable puppet.
These are communists. The notion is that robotoids were products of Soviet labs.
We know Biden pledged allegiance to the NWO by his triangle hand sign flashed in the Carmen Sandiego gameshow where he was a guest.
So say you have a purely programmable puppet (albeit one that's mentally failing) that has by design pledged allegiance to the NWO, and he has achieved a position of Vice President.
Now say that you're running out of assets AND losing the ability to recruit or control new assets.
Would you not try to hang onto your programmable puppet for as long as possible?
Does it make sense for Biden the Human to have such a large array of handlers and controllers?
Big Mike needed a team of 20 to maintain the illusion it was a woman.
How many handlers do you need to maintain the illusion you're human/competent?
Just off the top of my head, something happened to the original. Arrested, stroke, dementia, take your pick.
By itself not huge, but the original was very abusive and crass, swore like a sailor. Dropped F bombs on open mikes. We haven't seen that in a while aside from some campy remarks.
Exactly. And it makes no difference eaither. its up there with flat earths on here.
I like the analysis. The front of the chin is also interesting.
lol I had to look back at the images to realize they have no chin.
You mentioned shapes of mouths.
When RealJoe talks his bottom lip forms a v quite often, it almost pleats at times. You can see the beginning of it forming in bottom left photo above. I've never seen anyone else who has this as a facial expression to quite the same extreme. Study some old clips of him talking...that V shows up every 10-15th word.
I looked for it to appear in ResidentJoe, and it isn't there and none form as he talks.
It would be impossible to replicate and [they've] never tried to.
Also, RealJoe you see more of his top teeth when smiling. ResidentJoe you see more of his bottom teeth when smiling.
RealJoe has a southern twang (it's subtle, but it's there). Research has shown that accents become permanent around the age of 12 years old. Listen to videos of him talking as a young senator in his 30's...the accent is there and it is set. FauxJoe does not have a southern accent...he has a whiny voice with entirely different inflections to his speech.
RealJoe has a much broader forehead than FauxJoe. Noses and earlobes grow because of the cartilage but skulls are bone and the shifts with age never narrow the forehead or elongate the skull [in the case of OldJoe]. Even thinning subcutaneous facial fat can't account for the elongation.
Sources:
Current
2015
2009
2004
1987
I'm okay with the many Bidens being just one guy.
It ensures that the right guy gets the treason punishment and not some senile body double.
Joe's been bad for a long, long time.
I agree. I think the premise that he is a double co trolled by the good guys is very troubling. It would mean that the good guys think the end justifies the means. Becuase if biden is controlled by the good guys, who are telling him to do very bad things, just so people turn to the good guys it would mean the white hats aren't all that good.
I’ve long loved the humor of the “Bidan” double theories (and the related almost-everyone-is-a-double! theories), but truly, these are pushed for the same transparent reason, from the same playbook, as that clownish “flat-earth” BS - cheap and easy discrediting and polluting of sources of inconvenient truth.
Not really. We know that Saddam had doubles.
Are you telling me that in the geopolitical spy game, the only guy to ever have doubles in history was Saddam, and that nobody else ever had their hands on those kinds of services?
That when Saddam was found "in a spiderhole", that was the end of the doubles game?
Or is it more likely that high ranking corrupt politicians with endless money intent on child sacrifice and global war, who own Hollywood (the world of illusion), might have some more complex games going on than what Fox News tells you about the political process?
several big names have double, but these are called BODY-doubles because up close there is a very distinct difference. You will never find a double with the same wrinkle map and the same deformities as you.
Unless those markings are specifically made through plastic surgery
Oh, yes. they have the tech to exact even wrinkles. what surgery is that called where they add wrinkles? and if they did make all these changes and had the tech to do so, why would they then ignore his earlobe which is an easy surgery?
Tell me, using your amazing eye for detail, is the Paul McCartney prior to 1966 the same person as the Paul McCartney post 1966?
Can you provide me with 2 images at a minimum, from similar angles, lighting, and expressions? they should have enough detail to make out wrinkles.1 from around 1965ish and 1 from 1967 ish?
This is a subject that has been researched for decades. Cursory image searches should provide the exact comparisons you're asking for.
Not being obtuse, I'm sans laptop, my phone's just kinda lousy when it comes to neatly collating information.
Exactly.