It's worse than that. Kids are brought up in trades, but only apprentice with Mormon families, especially their own.
If you ever want to leave you will have no degree, no certificates regardless of trade, and you are blackballed. In addition to family ostracizing you, many will even claim you never worked in their businesses if calls for references come in. They destroy your ability to make a living until you repent and return.
Disclaimor: experienced through friends, not personally. Not sure all Mormons do this.
You do realize Steve Benson the famous political cartoonist often posts there? He used to be known for his ultraconservative pro-patriot cartoons in many newspapers.
Today Steve Benson is flaming liberal cuck who promotes LGBTQ shit and bashes Trump at every turn. But that's not all. He also tips his long-dead grandfather, who served as Eisenhower's agriculture secretary and warned us about the dangers of Communism, and whose two sons (one of whom was Steve's father) were John Birch Society members.
His grandfather was also Mormon church leader, until a stroke incapacitated him.
I have long thought that the greatest sin committed by those two evil men, smith and young, was separating their followers from God, the father, God, the son and the Holy Ghost. Reactionary atheists are not uncommon when truth is learned. It's sad, and there are Christians trying to help.
As to your logic, may I recommend "On Liberty" by John Mills?
kinda like antifa being antifascist (lol). Which Jesus to you espouse? The one that is the fullness of Diety in human flesh? or the created spirit brother of Lucifer?
I don’t understand the vitriol. I’m a member of the Church of Jesus Christ. AZ pede.
It’s possible to find bad apples in every faith. Our focus is encouraging people to live the sort of life that Christ lived. I hope people can see that we (people fighting for good) need to stick together.
Waking up from Mormonism (or any high demand religion/cult) is painful- my whole frame of reference was fucked - the reality I was taught and lived was ENTIRELY BULLSHIT. I had to rebuild everything in my brain relying only on my God given critical thinking skills.
I imagine the waking up process will be very similar for so many on this board.
The other side is GLORIOUS!! As much as I wish I could force open people's eyes and hearts...they need their worlds to crack, lose the chains and rebuild with the truth- without that pain? There is no growth.
Oh please just because someone who calls themself a mormon is evil doesn't make the whole group evil. I am a proud member of the LDS church and I know a lot of others who lurk here are too. but by all means waste your time down this rabbit hole
The crazy thing is that if anything Q has reinforced my belief in the religion & it was so bizarre when the lovers Strozk & Paige first made the claim in txts to have formed their own little secret combination the quorum I was in were in denial that it could eb the same thing our church has been warned about since it's foundation. Now the quorums I visit and attend believe it it likely, though when it broke it was so hard to get them to consider it as a possibility.
Granted I am also that kid that went digging for truth wherever I could find it.
Oh because i dont share the same opinion as those on this thread i must be a bot or do you mean i couldn't possibly come to my own conclusion about a religion and that i just follow along blindly?
Thanks fren. I’m a member of the Church of Jesus Christ. AZ pede.
I wish we could put the R vs D, Catholic vs Evangelical, us vs them categories aside. Identity politics is a bane on Western Civilization.
This is good vs evil. And there are good Catholics, good Mormons, good CIA, and there are evil in each of those. The only groups that matter are good vs evil.
Most of the comments in this thread are typical sycophant circle jerk bullshit. I lived in Utah most of my life, surrounded by mormons. I am not part of the religion in anyway shape or form. This nonsense they are a cult, satanic, not Christian blah blah is udder fucking bullshit. There are many very good people that are "mormon". Some of the most righteous and practicing ive ever met. Unlike the shit slinging lies of "Christians" present and typing demonstrable false opinions. These kind of threads should be annexed. The article is one thing of discussion. These lies about something like the replies here are despicable.
You are saying not to lump in all mormons as a satanic cult but you are lumping in all Christians as liars. Not all mormons are bad, but you do know there were offshoots of this very religion in the 1800's and the one led by Warrin Parrish (sp?) was the one that turned pretty fucking evil. The actual leader of that mormon group of LDS mormons is in jail because of the little girls he married, raped AND impregnated. That group is fucking sick and some of its own members need actual help getting out. A lot of mormons out there are awesome because they don't watch TV and instead engage in activities and hobbies with their family and they turn out to be pretty cool.
Calling out the evil offshoots of anything that is meant to be good should be done by everybody.
I didnt lump all christians I specifically said shit slinging lies present and typing. Which is precisely a reference to the bullshit spewed in this thread. I am fully aware of the branched sectors of "mormons". Its no different than branches of catholicism. Very similar in evolution. Some are zionists, polygamist etc. Small fringe groups compared to LDS. Also same similarities of horrific actions within the groups just like well known cases of cardinals, priests, bishops etc caught raping and grooming little boys and all the other well known occurences over the years. You know damn well alot of the bullshit in this thread wasnt aimed at calling out the bad actor sickos. It was lumped jargon and diatribe. That was the entire reason I replied. The conjecture was coming from people who clearly dont know folks in the religion they are stating falsehoods about. I have no love lost for many mormons. Satanic cult and not christian is categorically inaccurate.
So contrary to the ever popular shit word salad present here, you arent a satanic non christian cultists? This cant be true I read it on the internet, here. 🙂
I see the same issue with Jews and some people on here. Are most powerful people (who are also globohomos) “Jews”? Yes.
Obviously most Jews are not globohomos. The fight became good vs evil a while ago, not R vs D, Catholic vs Evangelical, etc. Many of us don’t seem to get that yet.
As a recent convert, I see the adversary is ranting and raving nonsense because of the Name of the church. The power of His Name drives the minions nuts. In 2020 the April General Conference wiped away ALL my preconceived notions about the Church and 2021 was prelude to my experience this year. TBS, my notions were nowhere as vile as many of the statements here.. Apostates will always rant to bolster their rationales...
You could learn to read first and leave the presumptions aside, thats a good start. What you are concerned about is as important to me as what the Kardashians did in a seasonal episode. I could care less.
Alot of handshakes replying in your thread, handshake, these your bots- alt accounts -farming internet points by chance?
More presumptions interlaced with reading comprehension issues. Thats cute. Replies are setting the record straight not allowing the assumption train youve presented chug along.
Looks like they could have found out all of the connections if the therapist, Jason Scott Calder, that was previously accused (and police had a taped confession too) but the case got dropped.
The OP of that post that got almost 600 upvotes was… the real Zeitreise! hahaha. So you definitely knew his name and that he has a good following before you decided to make this bullshit “Zeltreise” profile. “Hundreds of updoots on posts and comments” that were intended for Zeitreise, not for you. I guess you feel proud of that as a good little commie operative, but people are wising up.
So four months ago you tried using “Judeo-Christian” propaganda to try to push for a war against Iran, but you ran into a brick wall of Christians who weren’t buying your bullshit. So you researched Christianity for four months so you could snake your way in here, and you chose a bullshit profile name to bite off someone else. You are a turd.
Oh my God. I can't believe I have to keep being this guy.
I was raised Mormon, served a Mormon mission in Mexico, got married in a Mormon temple, left Mormonism shortly after, but still live with my wife and son here in Utah.
Let me put this very, very clearly: if there is anything like what you just described happening in the LDS Church, the only possibility is that it is occurring at the tippy, tippy top, and nowhere else. Period.
There is no doctrine in Mormonism that supports child molestation or cannibalism of any sort. At any level. And my family tree goes pretty fucking high in the LDS Church. If there were a hint or a whisper of anything like that going on in the church there would be a revolt so hard and so fast it would make your head spin. When it was discovered that a member of the Quorum of the 12 (top 15 ranking in the Church) had cheated on his wife and had molested his own daughter, TENS OF THOUSANDS of Mormons left the church and never came back.
This is a church of extremely well intentioned people who believe in God, who believe in Christ (despite your stringent dogmatic evangelical definitions--don't fucking get me started). They would not stand for this if they knew about it. Period.
The higher you go, the more I'd be willing to believe that at some point, the people in charge know it's a lie, and are pilfering the membership for their tithes, and for all I know some or all of them could be members of the cabal, but that would be a very small, very select group. This is a tight knit church where rumor circulates very quickly and aggressively. The rank and file of this church are good, hard working, Jesus loving, America loving, 1st and 2nd Amendment PATRIOTS. We can suspect the LDS Church leadership of involvement with the cabal without tossing out tens of millions of freedom loving pedes with the bathwater. Grow the fuck up.
It would not surprise me one little bit to learn that the Cabal has wrested control of the Mormon church at the tippy top. I have no evidence of it, but it wouldn't surprise me. But the rank and file...don't even fucking try it. Utah is the safest place on earth to live. Everyone here hates pedophiles, and while there are always cases like anywhere, it is simply not condoned. Is it covered up by family members who see pedophilia as a sin that can be overcome by Christ's Atonement and therefore try to handle it in the family and/or with Church leaders rather than calling the police? Yes. But that would be the case anywhere. It is not unique to Mormonism, at all.
Your Christian elitism literally makes me sick. Makes me ashamed to call myself at Christian at times if I'm being honest. But I, unlike you, refuse to throw the baby out with the bathwater.
The RC church? Tithing as a break from the Bible? I'm sorry I'm not quite sure what you're saying. Not being defensive, just literally not sure what you're saying.
10% of your entire income, going to a church that owns businesses including farmland in
Florida? And if you don't pay you're treated as a second-class priesthood holder, not able to go to the Temple to do rituals for the dead?
Fucking shut up. My God. I don't care what your fucking youth pastor told you. I don't fucking care. Fuck off. Fuck right fucking off. I'm not even Mormon anymore you fucking twat. So fucking tired of people like you.
Do you support Trump? Do you follow Q? Do you support the first Amendment? Do you believe in the teaching of the Sermon on the Mount? Do you believe in God? So do Mormons. If you have something to teach them, teach them. But drop the fucking sanctimony, you prick.
Whatever. I've done my part. Mormon Pedes, I'm sorry you have to put up with this shit. I for one know you would be the first ones at this prick's side fighting for our freedoms if push came to shove. I know what you believe and I respect you for it. Clearly every religion has its assholes, as our friend here is so willing to demonstrate. Keep fighting the good fight as best you know how. If the Church is true, good for you. If it's not, I know your heart is in the right place and you'll come around when the truth becomes apparent to you. Bob the zealot here won't be helping you with that anytime soon though. Maybe he'll learn how to communicate his version of the gospel more delicately someday.
Oh my, some of you are as bat sh*t crazy as the people you claim you are against. I really respected this group until I read the stunningly ignorant and ill informed posts on this particular thread, one that I happen to know so much about. And it makes me wonder about the validity of the rest of the posts on this board. You're all no different than the people you verbally crucify on a daily basis.. GROUP THINK!!! I grew up Mormon, though am no longer, but in spite of their crazy immoral history (which surrounds most religions), it still kept me chaste and moral, I am forever grateful to that! Is that such a bad thing? Can anyone win in this crowd? You cite scriptures and then wish the worst on your enemies. How do you reconcile?
To find all the rabbit holes, go to exmormon.org.
You ever met any post-Mormonism Mormons? They all trash it as a cult that traps you in and shames you and your family for trying to leave.
It's worse than that. Kids are brought up in trades, but only apprentice with Mormon families, especially their own.
If you ever want to leave you will have no degree, no certificates regardless of trade, and you are blackballed. In addition to family ostracizing you, many will even claim you never worked in their businesses if calls for references come in. They destroy your ability to make a living until you repent and return.
Disclaimor: experienced through friends, not personally. Not sure all Mormons do this.
You do realize Steve Benson the famous political cartoonist often posts there? He used to be known for his ultraconservative pro-patriot cartoons in many newspapers.
Today Steve Benson is flaming liberal cuck who promotes LGBTQ shit and bashes Trump at every turn. But that's not all. He also tips his long-dead grandfather, who served as Eisenhower's agriculture secretary and warned us about the dangers of Communism, and whose two sons (one of whom was Steve's father) were John Birch Society members.
His grandfather was also Mormon church leader, until a stroke incapacitated him.
I have long thought that the greatest sin committed by those two evil men, smith and young, was separating their followers from God, the father, God, the son and the Holy Ghost. Reactionary atheists are not uncommon when truth is learned. It's sad, and there are Christians trying to help.
As to your logic, may I recommend "On Liberty" by John Mills?
He has ties to Burisma
Also Bain Capital. Destroying USA from within.
Mitt wears magic underwear.
https://archive.ph/Gpwgq
Help me out here. What is LDS?
Who would downvote a straight answer?
And to be clear, they are not a Christian church.
This ex mormon totally agrees. They most definitely are not a Christian church!
They are Satanist cult.
I’m a member of the Church of Jesus Christ. We encourage people to live the sort of life Christ lived.
a counterfeit is one of the devils great deceptions. He does anything and everything to deny the Diety of Christ. Mormons are counterfeit christians.
Respectfully disagree fren.
Yes, because the name of the church actually says 'The Church of Jesus Christ', so clearly it's not a Christian church.
You people sound more ridiculous than the dumbest far left liberals that we all constantly make fun of. Do you even listen to yourselves?
And the Patriot Act has the word patriot right in the name.
How could it be anything other than patriotic?
Remember Johnsons “Great Society” legislation? It turned the USA into a shithole.
Everything Democrats do is designed to erode or destroy the US.
kinda like antifa being antifascist (lol). Which Jesus to you espouse? The one that is the fullness of Diety in human flesh? or the created spirit brother of Lucifer?
He's just saying what the name is.
just call them mormons
the second 'm' is silent
😄
They don't like that anymore- despite the millions spent on the "I AM A MORMON" campaign Signed- recovered exmo
I don’t understand the vitriol. I’m a member of the Church of Jesus Christ. AZ pede.
It’s possible to find bad apples in every faith. Our focus is encouraging people to live the sort of life that Christ lived. I hope people can see that we (people fighting for good) need to stick together.
The only thing we are interested, is whether the four or so top leaders die off soon, so we can have Jeff Holland as the Prophet, Seer and Revelator.
If you like Joe Biden as our supposed president, trust me you'll love seeing Jeff Holland as leader of the Mormon Church.
Who needs the escape, friend? I will pray for yours.
As a recovered "mormon" I have been waiting for something like this to be exposed- Talk about grooming...LDS needs a whole thread devoted to their BS
Waking up from Mormonism (or any high demand religion/cult) is painful- my whole frame of reference was fucked - the reality I was taught and lived was ENTIRELY BULLSHIT. I had to rebuild everything in my brain relying only on my God given critical thinking skills.
I imagine the waking up process will be very similar for so many on this board.
The other side is GLORIOUS!! As much as I wish I could force open people's eyes and hearts...they need their worlds to crack, lose the chains and rebuild with the truth- without that pain? There is no growth.
Oh please just because someone who calls themself a mormon is evil doesn't make the whole group evil. I am a proud member of the LDS church and I know a lot of others who lurk here are too. but by all means waste your time down this rabbit hole
The crazy thing is that if anything Q has reinforced my belief in the religion & it was so bizarre when the lovers Strozk & Paige first made the claim in txts to have formed their own little secret combination the quorum I was in were in denial that it could eb the same thing our church has been warned about since it's foundation. Now the quorums I visit and attend believe it it likely, though when it broke it was so hard to get them to consider it as a possibility.
Granted I am also that kid that went digging for truth wherever I could find it.
Oh because i dont share the same opinion as those on this thread i must be a bot or do you mean i couldn't possibly come to my own conclusion about a religion and that i just follow along blindly?
Your deductive reasoning skills are astounding
Thanks fren. I’m a member of the Church of Jesus Christ. AZ pede.
I wish we could put the R vs D, Catholic vs Evangelical, us vs them categories aside. Identity politics is a bane on Western Civilization.
This is good vs evil. And there are good Catholics, good Mormons, good CIA, and there are evil in each of those. The only groups that matter are good vs evil.
Same!
I don't understand what you mean. How is pointing out that one man's evil does not a whole church conspiracy make?
There is a history.
An earlier 9/11 (in 1857, not 2011).
17 Survivors, my g-g-aunt Tryphena among them.
[http://www.1857massacre.com/]
I see you comveniently skipped the rape and murder of my ancestors. Nice.
I’m a member of the church. Respectfully disagree with the categorization.
I’m trying to live the sort of life Christ would like me to. There are some bad apples in our group, but there are lots of good ones as well.
Because the pope may be a satanic pedophile, I don’t believe all Catholics are the same.
Best of luck fren.
Most of the comments in this thread are typical sycophant circle jerk bullshit. I lived in Utah most of my life, surrounded by mormons. I am not part of the religion in anyway shape or form. This nonsense they are a cult, satanic, not Christian blah blah is udder fucking bullshit. There are many very good people that are "mormon". Some of the most righteous and practicing ive ever met. Unlike the shit slinging lies of "Christians" present and typing demonstrable false opinions. These kind of threads should be annexed. The article is one thing of discussion. These lies about something like the replies here are despicable.
You are saying not to lump in all mormons as a satanic cult but you are lumping in all Christians as liars. Not all mormons are bad, but you do know there were offshoots of this very religion in the 1800's and the one led by Warrin Parrish (sp?) was the one that turned pretty fucking evil. The actual leader of that mormon group of LDS mormons is in jail because of the little girls he married, raped AND impregnated. That group is fucking sick and some of its own members need actual help getting out. A lot of mormons out there are awesome because they don't watch TV and instead engage in activities and hobbies with their family and they turn out to be pretty cool. Calling out the evil offshoots of anything that is meant to be good should be done by everybody.
I didnt lump all christians I specifically said shit slinging lies present and typing. Which is precisely a reference to the bullshit spewed in this thread. I am fully aware of the branched sectors of "mormons". Its no different than branches of catholicism. Very similar in evolution. Some are zionists, polygamist etc. Small fringe groups compared to LDS. Also same similarities of horrific actions within the groups just like well known cases of cardinals, priests, bishops etc caught raping and grooming little boys and all the other well known occurences over the years. You know damn well alot of the bullshit in this thread wasnt aimed at calling out the bad actor sickos. It was lumped jargon and diatribe. That was the entire reason I replied. The conjecture was coming from people who clearly dont know folks in the religion they are stating falsehoods about. I have no love lost for many mormons. Satanic cult and not christian is categorically inaccurate.
Thanks fren. I’m a member of the Church of Jesus Christ. AZ pede.
So contrary to the ever popular shit word salad present here, you arent a satanic non christian cultists? This cant be true I read it on the internet, here. 🙂
I see the same issue with Jews and some people on here. Are most powerful people (who are also globohomos) “Jews”? Yes.
Obviously most Jews are not globohomos. The fight became good vs evil a while ago, not R vs D, Catholic vs Evangelical, etc. Many of us don’t seem to get that yet.
I agree. There is still quite alot of tribalism presented in here regularly.
As a recent convert, I see the adversary is ranting and raving nonsense because of the Name of the church. The power of His Name drives the minions nuts. In 2020 the April General Conference wiped away ALL my preconceived notions about the Church and 2021 was prelude to my experience this year. TBS, my notions were nowhere as vile as many of the statements here.. Apostates will always rant to bolster their rationales...
You could learn to read first and leave the presumptions aside, thats a good start. What you are concerned about is as important to me as what the Kardashians did in a seasonal episode. I could care less.
Alot of handshakes replying in your thread, handshake, these your bots- alt accounts -farming internet points by chance?
More presumptions interlaced with reading comprehension issues. Thats cute. Replies are setting the record straight not allowing the assumption train youve presented chug along.
Looks like they could have found out all of the connections if the therapist, Jason Scott Calder, that was previously accused (and police had a taped confession too) but the case got dropped.
https://www.ksl.com/article/45951183/therapist-who-worked-with-troubled-youth-arrested-for-raping-patient-police-say
Reminded me of an old SNL skit: "I'll take THE RAPIST for $200, Alex." "That's THERAPIST."
Leavitt can be an Ashkenazi Jewish surname
I'm going to go out on a limb here and bet that the Mormons and Evangelicals are just a front for Kazarian Jews
Leavitt = joo
Because their job is to infiltrate everything oh, politics, religion, corporations, Etc.
Thanks for that Ukraine link.
Deported for sticky. This is really important to get out there. Cult exposure is (or should be) part of our prime directive.
Wow, I wonder what's with the down vote hate, don't they realize the mods said to use deport:other:and type sticky for sticky requests?
OP is an imposter
You intentionally chose the name of someone else who already has recognition. Stop lying.
We don’t think karma points matter, but they will be a good way to distinguish your fake ass from the real Zeitreise if you lose your handshake.
Everyone, keep negging this clown
Give it up, commie. We know you’re not a Christian. Besides laying on the schmaltz too thick, you indicated your previous profile:
NotoriousBIG comment history
Here’s a link to one of the posts you commented on as NotoriousBIG four months ago:
Dear Lurkers, Q
The OP of that post that got almost 600 upvotes was… the real Zeitreise! hahaha. So you definitely knew his name and that he has a good following before you decided to make this bullshit “Zeltreise” profile. “Hundreds of updoots on posts and comments” that were intended for Zeitreise, not for you. I guess you feel proud of that as a good little commie operative, but people are wising up.
So four months ago you tried using “Judeo-Christian” propaganda to try to push for a war against Iran, but you ran into a brick wall of Christians who weren’t buying your bullshit. So you researched Christianity for four months so you could snake your way in here, and you chose a bullshit profile name to bite off someone else. You are a turd.
Isn't that where good ol' Mittenz came from?
Oh my God. I can't believe I have to keep being this guy.
I was raised Mormon, served a Mormon mission in Mexico, got married in a Mormon temple, left Mormonism shortly after, but still live with my wife and son here in Utah.
Let me put this very, very clearly: if there is anything like what you just described happening in the LDS Church, the only possibility is that it is occurring at the tippy, tippy top, and nowhere else. Period.
There is no doctrine in Mormonism that supports child molestation or cannibalism of any sort. At any level. And my family tree goes pretty fucking high in the LDS Church. If there were a hint or a whisper of anything like that going on in the church there would be a revolt so hard and so fast it would make your head spin. When it was discovered that a member of the Quorum of the 12 (top 15 ranking in the Church) had cheated on his wife and had molested his own daughter, TENS OF THOUSANDS of Mormons left the church and never came back.
This is a church of extremely well intentioned people who believe in God, who believe in Christ (despite your stringent dogmatic evangelical definitions--don't fucking get me started). They would not stand for this if they knew about it. Period.
The higher you go, the more I'd be willing to believe that at some point, the people in charge know it's a lie, and are pilfering the membership for their tithes, and for all I know some or all of them could be members of the cabal, but that would be a very small, very select group. This is a tight knit church where rumor circulates very quickly and aggressively. The rank and file of this church are good, hard working, Jesus loving, America loving, 1st and 2nd Amendment PATRIOTS. We can suspect the LDS Church leadership of involvement with the cabal without tossing out tens of millions of freedom loving pedes with the bathwater. Grow the fuck up.
It would not surprise me one little bit to learn that the Cabal has wrested control of the Mormon church at the tippy top. I have no evidence of it, but it wouldn't surprise me. But the rank and file...don't even fucking try it. Utah is the safest place on earth to live. Everyone here hates pedophiles, and while there are always cases like anywhere, it is simply not condoned. Is it covered up by family members who see pedophilia as a sin that can be overcome by Christ's Atonement and therefore try to handle it in the family and/or with Church leaders rather than calling the police? Yes. But that would be the case anywhere. It is not unique to Mormonism, at all.
Your Christian elitism literally makes me sick. Makes me ashamed to call myself at Christian at times if I'm being honest. But I, unlike you, refuse to throw the baby out with the bathwater.
The RC church? Tithing as a break from the Bible? I'm sorry I'm not quite sure what you're saying. Not being defensive, just literally not sure what you're saying.
10% of your entire income, going to a church that owns businesses including farmland in Florida? And if you don't pay you're treated as a second-class priesthood holder, not able to go to the Temple to do rituals for the dead?
I still feel like you're talking past me. What is the RC case? What is RC? And what is this $8,000,000 thing?
Fucking shut up. My God. I don't care what your fucking youth pastor told you. I don't fucking care. Fuck off. Fuck right fucking off. I'm not even Mormon anymore you fucking twat. So fucking tired of people like you.
Do you support Trump? Do you follow Q? Do you support the first Amendment? Do you believe in the teaching of the Sermon on the Mount? Do you believe in God? So do Mormons. If you have something to teach them, teach them. But drop the fucking sanctimony, you prick.
Whatever. I've done my part. Mormon Pedes, I'm sorry you have to put up with this shit. I for one know you would be the first ones at this prick's side fighting for our freedoms if push came to shove. I know what you believe and I respect you for it. Clearly every religion has its assholes, as our friend here is so willing to demonstrate. Keep fighting the good fight as best you know how. If the Church is true, good for you. If it's not, I know your heart is in the right place and you'll come around when the truth becomes apparent to you. Bob the zealot here won't be helping you with that anytime soon though. Maybe he'll learn how to communicate his version of the gospel more delicately someday.
Yeah. Zero self awareness. I'll pray for you.
You really have no self awareness. I'll pray for you.
Just make sure your bishop doesn't know about all the F-bombs you write. Your EQ brothers would have a fit.
I'll make sure to let him know...except I'm not Mormon anymore. As I said in the first paragraph of my post...
Oh my, some of you are as bat sh*t crazy as the people you claim you are against. I really respected this group until I read the stunningly ignorant and ill informed posts on this particular thread, one that I happen to know so much about. And it makes me wonder about the validity of the rest of the posts on this board. You're all no different than the people you verbally crucify on a daily basis.. GROUP THINK!!! I grew up Mormon, though am no longer, but in spite of their crazy immoral history (which surrounds most religions), it still kept me chaste and moral, I am forever grateful to that! Is that such a bad thing? Can anyone win in this crowd? You cite scriptures and then wish the worst on your enemies. How do you reconcile?