So what is the purpose? Is it to switch people to marijuana? Taint the marijuana so it is more addictive and people can be better controlled. We do not need government to tell us what is safe or unhealthy. If we did need government for that purpose the government would: ban all junk food (potato chips, candy, soda pops, energy drinks), fried food, crops grown with GMO’s and other additives, fluoride in our water and toothpaste, fast food restaurants, etc.
This is exactly why they're promoting this. It's also why they hate the vaping industry ... Vaping isn't 100% safe, but it's a hell of a lot safer than smoking tobacco you buy at your local convenience store.
More tax money ... They'll sell more cigarettes ... Nicotine itself is mostly harmless, but it's what gets people hooked on cigarettes. If they cut the amount of nicotine present in half, people will buy 2x the amount of cigarettes.
This has never been about health ... It's always been about money.
Other people mention that smoking may prevent COVID ... I don't know much about that ... Only 15% of the population in the US continues to smoke, so I don't think that's the motivation ... I could be wrong of course ... However, I do know that the swamp loves their revenue streams.
Nicotine mimics acetylcholine in the brain, many people need it to think clearly. That's why for some people they can never quit while some people can never start. Its been used forever for spiritual purposes and to enhance creativity. The deep state wants people really dumb and also they want tobacco to be the catch all scapegoat for all the cancers they create in people - that's why they put so many toxic additives into cigarettes and then blame tobacco for it
Loose tobacco is not cigarettes. I have not successfully learned to roll w a filter tho, or use the devices that burn actual tobacco rather than vape artificial liquid. My problem is, cigarettes work every time, and the vape devices I've tried are not reliable and don't taste right. But I quit smoking almost every week . . .
Top-o-matic T2, a few cartons of tubes and a pound or two of loose tobacco will cost you less than a carton of smokes, and after that you're just buying tubes and tobacco, which cost very little compared to premade smokes.
Truth. I bought 5 pounds of loose tobacco and 15 boxes of tubes which was less than $100 shipped. I quit smoking since then, but I still have all my smoking stuff for a SHTF scenario
I'm not a smoker, but the smell is awful and as much as I hate it, people should still have the freedom to smoke if they want.
Or just treat it all like alcohol. Only in designated smoking bars and homes. Idk.
The thing that sucks about smoke is that it takes away others ability to breath fresh air. At least alcohol didn't do that.
I know it's a touchy subject so I don't mean to piss off my smoker Frens.
The main thing is chemicals shouldn't be added that cause cancer and other crap. Cigarettes in the current state are simply population control.
Go natural only. Same with weed.
And ban all the fucking vape shit. That's so toxic and the oil and heavy metals stay in the lungs. All these people that vape hit it through our the day, probably won't live very long at all.
Nicotine in and of itself isn't inherently dangerous. If it were, there would be warnings on smoking cessation products. It's the other 200+ chemicals sprayed on cigarette tobacco.
You'd have to intentionally ingest a large amount of nicotine in a very short time, like a suicide attempt, for it to kill you. Most people get sick long before they get close to LD50. I've done it on a few Cuban cigars years back or too many nic lozenges in a short period of time. Too much of anything will kill you. Even water.
You have a right to your opinion and I have a right to mine. Not a fan of pot & never have been. The people I've met on pot come off as zombies to me. Pot seems to be glorified nowadays, but I'm not into that sort of thing & I'm not going to pretend that I am.
I'm also not a fan of the continuous cursing I see in today's society & that you put in your post to address me. It seems to be glorified in today's society as well. I wasn't brought up that way & I don't agree with it.
Been smoking weed for 21 years. I'm here and raise a family on a single income by busting my ass for 12 hour shifts at a garbage plant. There's quite a few of us here like that.
What, like the three people you've encountered? I come across your kind all the time and my observation is strikingly similar to yours. Jordan Peterson has smoked since the age of 12 and he could outwit both of us in his sleep.
Your assessment is based on a couple of people mixed with your personal bias. I suppose it's good that your opinion matters not.
I think you would be wise to reconsider what sobriety is. No, your opinions on the matter are irrelevant for a host of reasons:
You have zero experience from which to speak.
You're obviously ignorant to the vast amount of studies and clinical research that has long debunked your indoctrinated parroting of government propaganda going back to the thirties.
You're a member of an Old Guard cult that worships a man-made imposter of the true God.
Your view is completely bias, which has kept you wilfully ignorant to the truth available.
Cannabis (Kaneh Bah from the Hebrew) was the main ingredient in the recipe for the biblical anointing oil that God commanded Moses to formulate. Christ Himself also used it. Its also a key component of the healing balm of Gilead.
Genesis negates any argument you could pose automatically. Any way you slice it, its here to stay. Like it or not. We will not allow your ilk to dictate our liberty any longer.
Nicotine. Although nicotine is a very addictive substance it's relatively harmless. It's the carbon monoxide, tar and other toxic chemicals in tobacco smoke that will cause serious damage to your health. Clean forms of nicotine are licensed to help smokers quit.
Kind of a testimony. A few months ago, someone on GAW posted a book by Allen Carr Easy Way to Quit Smoking. So many responded that the book was a miracle and they quit before even finishing the book. My husband, a heavy smoker for 45 years would say he needed to quit about once a month. He's tried with will power a few times but without success. So after reading about the book here, I quietly ordered it. The next month when he said he needed to quit, I just handed him the book without saying anything other than you guys came out of the woodwork singing it's praises. That was 2 months ago. He too quit before finishing the book. This time without all the initial pissiness of withdrawal. He said this morning we are saving $300 a month on what he was spending on cigarettes. So thanks a million guys.
Biden didn't think this up. His handlers did. There's no way a man who needs a map for a room could be thinking anything.
Reason? Typical leftist control freak-ism––we don't like it, so it must be banned for everybody? An attempt to look good like they care, so bring the full weight of the federal government down on something else people like to do (for your own good because you're too stupid to make good decisions)? The ongoing elimination of fun because the fun-sucking liberals in New York and California saw something that looked enjoyable, so, naturally, it must be eliminated in the whole country (for your own good because you aren't smart enough to choose things that are actually fun, like a liberal symposium on how to make people even more miserable and take their money or publicly screaming your bitterness against all the people they told you to hate)?
All of those things, yes, but probably because nicotine hinders their unnatural lab-created covid monster from infecting people. That is what the balance of probability suggests because they banned ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine, which are both extremely effective against covid.
Doesn't matter. Those are state doing that, as they should(10th amend). You produced completely fake information that is counter to actual fact so that people would click on your shit. Fake and Emotionally manipulative headlines are a technique the cabal. Are you Taylor Lorenz? Regardless of your stand on cannabis (not marijuana, that's actually another smokable product), Biden doesn't support cannabis and your headline was disingenuous.
So in order to get the same nicotine dose, which is the addictive part. People will now have to ingest 2x as much of the chemicals and smoke.
If anything they should be increasing the nicotine.
This is a reverse swerve orchestrated by big tobacco.
Phillip Morris makes (lots) money selling cigarettes, A competitor pops up in the form of vaping so they buy the largest one Juul. Then through lobbying and spreading tons of disinformation big tobacco gets the government to mandate them to stop selling evil vapes. (This is the precursor to banning all vape products is my prediction.) Meanwhile the government mandates that cigarette nicotine be reduced to almost nothing, which in turn becomes people consuming many more cigarettes.
Way more profit in cigarette production than selling plastic from China. Follow the money boys and girls.. always follow the money.
The cabal is desperate for open civil insurgency. It would pave the way for the full on police state they covet. Take away an addicts nicotine and they become highly agitated. Prone to foolishness. .
They just outlawed juul. My theory is they started talking about cigarette nicotine to not look like corrupt stooges for the traditional tobacco industry. No intent to outlaw nicotine.
I am certain it has nothing to do with Nicotine's potential to protect against Corona Virus.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7704168/
One reason that when I stop smoking every week, I can feel justified in smoking again until the next time I quit . . .
Lol I was very tempted to use that as an excuse too 😂. Don’t give up. You’ll quit.
I do think you are right!
Everytime I want to light up I think about bill gates and klaus Schwab and I just cannot let them win. They want us dead.
I used to drink a lot. I still do, but I used to, too.
Old school pipe and pure tobacco
Big fan of cigarillos. More nicotine, none of the chemicals.
I still remember the cigarette girls in the movies: "cigar? cigarette? cigarillo?"
TBH I did not think of trying those!
So what is the purpose? Is it to switch people to marijuana? Taint the marijuana so it is more addictive and people can be better controlled. We do not need government to tell us what is safe or unhealthy. If we did need government for that purpose the government would: ban all junk food (potato chips, candy, soda pops, energy drinks), fried food, crops grown with GMO’s and other additives, fluoride in our water and toothpaste, fast food restaurants, etc.
Grow your own fruit, veggies, and weed.
This is the way
and tobacco
Just be sure to choose a variety of tobacco that doesn't need to be flue cured.
This is exactly why they're promoting this. It's also why they hate the vaping industry ... Vaping isn't 100% safe, but it's a hell of a lot safer than smoking tobacco you buy at your local convenience store.
"So what is the purpose?" inquiring minds want to ask . . .
Nicotine is a Covid inhibitor. They don't want you protected from it.
https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04583410
More tax money ... They'll sell more cigarettes ... Nicotine itself is mostly harmless, but it's what gets people hooked on cigarettes. If they cut the amount of nicotine present in half, people will buy 2x the amount of cigarettes.
This has never been about health ... It's always been about money.
Other people mention that smoking may prevent COVID ... I don't know much about that ... Only 15% of the population in the US continues to smoke, so I don't think that's the motivation ... I could be wrong of course ... However, I do know that the swamp loves their revenue streams.
Nicotine mimics acetylcholine in the brain, many people need it to think clearly. That's why for some people they can never quit while some people can never start. Its been used forever for spiritual purposes and to enhance creativity. The deep state wants people really dumb and also they want tobacco to be the catch all scapegoat for all the cancers they create in people - that's why they put so many toxic additives into cigarettes and then blame tobacco for it
Finally someone who gets it.
Honestly cigarettes, in their current state, should be banned. They are chemical poison sticks.
Only natural pure tobacco cigarettes should be allowed.
Loose tobacco is not cigarettes. I have not successfully learned to roll w a filter tho, or use the devices that burn actual tobacco rather than vape artificial liquid. My problem is, cigarettes work every time, and the vape devices I've tried are not reliable and don't taste right. But I quit smoking almost every week . . .
I'll look into the rollers. My fingers aren't coordinated enough to roll.
Top-o-matic T2, a few cartons of tubes and a pound or two of loose tobacco will cost you less than a carton of smokes, and after that you're just buying tubes and tobacco, which cost very little compared to premade smokes.
Truth. I bought 5 pounds of loose tobacco and 15 boxes of tubes which was less than $100 shipped. I quit smoking since then, but I still have all my smoking stuff for a SHTF scenario
Banning chemicals is good.
I'm not saying ban cigarettes.
It's akin to banning Rx that is known to cause significant side affects or death.
But a water filter? Lol
Natural American Spirit cigs are on the market. So banning not necessary.
But competition is needed. Spirits are hard to smoke, the draw is too hard and have not found the right taste.
Maybe when I'm too burned out (HA!) from work, I'll do some research on loose tobacco and rolling accessories. ThnQ!
They are required to put toxic flame retardant chemicals in the papers though by law
the papers used for rolling as well?
Banning only the chemicals introduced.
I'm not a smoker, but the smell is awful and as much as I hate it, people should still have the freedom to smoke if they want.
Or just treat it all like alcohol. Only in designated smoking bars and homes. Idk.
The thing that sucks about smoke is that it takes away others ability to breath fresh air. At least alcohol didn't do that.
I know it's a touchy subject so I don't mean to piss off my smoker Frens.
The main thing is chemicals shouldn't be added that cause cancer and other crap. Cigarettes in the current state are simply population control.
Go natural only. Same with weed.
And ban all the fucking vape shit. That's so toxic and the oil and heavy metals stay in the lungs. All these people that vape hit it through our the day, probably won't live very long at all.
But I guess that's their choice.
Lmao fren
They even force natural spirits to put toxic chemicals in the paper
Nicotine in and of itself isn't inherently dangerous. If it were, there would be warnings on smoking cessation products. It's the other 200+ chemicals sprayed on cigarette tobacco.
You'd have to intentionally ingest a large amount of nicotine in a very short time, like a suicide attempt, for it to kill you. Most people get sick long before they get close to LD50. I've done it on a few Cuban cigars years back or too many nic lozenges in a short period of time. Too much of anything will kill you. Even water.
I think they want people to smoke weed to make us a nation of zombies.
You have a right to your opinion and I have a right to mine. Not a fan of pot & never have been. The people I've met on pot come off as zombies to me. Pot seems to be glorified nowadays, but I'm not into that sort of thing & I'm not going to pretend that I am.
I'm also not a fan of the continuous cursing I see in today's society & that you put in your post to address me. It seems to be glorified in today's society as well. I wasn't brought up that way & I don't agree with it.
Thats your opinion and you know where to shove it.
I'm not shoving anything.
I smoke to treat my epilepsy. I swear I’m not a zombie (:
Hey, I'm not going to fault you for that, if it's helping you.
Been smoking weed for 21 years. I'm here and raise a family on a single income by busting my ass for 12 hour shifts at a garbage plant. There's quite a few of us here like that.
Are we zombies to you?
I don't know you personally. People I've met in life that smoke pot a lot seem zoned out to me like a zombie.
What, like the three people you've encountered? I come across your kind all the time and my observation is strikingly similar to yours. Jordan Peterson has smoked since the age of 12 and he could outwit both of us in his sleep.
Your assessment is based on a couple of people mixed with your personal bias. I suppose it's good that your opinion matters not.
People smoke pot & get high & if you're high, then you're not lucid.
I think you would be wise to reconsider what sobriety is. No, your opinions on the matter are irrelevant for a host of reasons:
You have zero experience from which to speak.
You're obviously ignorant to the vast amount of studies and clinical research that has long debunked your indoctrinated parroting of government propaganda going back to the thirties.
You're a member of an Old Guard cult that worships a man-made imposter of the true God.
Your view is completely bias, which has kept you wilfully ignorant to the truth available.
Cannabis (Kaneh Bah from the Hebrew) was the main ingredient in the recipe for the biblical anointing oil that God commanded Moses to formulate. Christ Himself also used it. Its also a key component of the healing balm of Gilead.
Genesis negates any argument you could pose automatically. Any way you slice it, its here to stay. Like it or not. We will not allow your ilk to dictate our liberty any longer.
Grass, gas, or ass and you can ride with me :)
It's not the nicotine, but the tar that causes problems. These people are stupid.
TAR is an acronym. Total Aerosol Residue.
Nicotine. Although nicotine is a very addictive substance it's relatively harmless. It's the carbon monoxide, tar and other toxic chemicals in tobacco smoke that will cause serious damage to your health. Clean forms of nicotine are licensed to help smokers quit.
I suddenly have a craving for Nicotine.
Kind of a testimony. A few months ago, someone on GAW posted a book by Allen Carr Easy Way to Quit Smoking. So many responded that the book was a miracle and they quit before even finishing the book. My husband, a heavy smoker for 45 years would say he needed to quit about once a month. He's tried with will power a few times but without success. So after reading about the book here, I quietly ordered it. The next month when he said he needed to quit, I just handed him the book without saying anything other than you guys came out of the woodwork singing it's praises. That was 2 months ago. He too quit before finishing the book. This time without all the initial pissiness of withdrawal. He said this morning we are saving $300 a month on what he was spending on cigarettes. So thanks a million guys.
Grow your own tobacco.
Biden didn't think this up. His handlers did. There's no way a man who needs a map for a room could be thinking anything.
Reason? Typical leftist control freak-ism––we don't like it, so it must be banned for everybody? An attempt to look good like they care, so bring the full weight of the federal government down on something else people like to do (for your own good because you're too stupid to make good decisions)? The ongoing elimination of fun because the fun-sucking liberals in New York and California saw something that looked enjoyable, so, naturally, it must be eliminated in the whole country (for your own good because you aren't smart enough to choose things that are actually fun, like a liberal symposium on how to make people even more miserable and take their money or publicly screaming your bitterness against all the people they told you to hate)?
All of those things, yes, but probably because nicotine hinders their unnatural lab-created covid monster from infecting people. That is what the balance of probability suggests because they banned ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine, which are both extremely effective against covid.
Fake news. Biden is also against legalizing cannabis.
but legalizing mj is trending and the two are contradictory
Doesn't matter. Those are state doing that, as they should(10th amend). You produced completely fake information that is counter to actual fact so that people would click on your shit. Fake and Emotionally manipulative headlines are a technique the cabal. Are you Taylor Lorenz? Regardless of your stand on cannabis (not marijuana, that's actually another smokable product), Biden doesn't support cannabis and your headline was disingenuous.
So in order to get the same nicotine dose, which is the addictive part. People will now have to ingest 2x as much of the chemicals and smoke.
If anything they should be increasing the nicotine.
Every idea a democrat has is enterirely backward.
What a bunch of faggots.
Hydroponic, home grown super tobacco in 3...2...1...
This is a reverse swerve orchestrated by big tobacco.
Phillip Morris makes (lots) money selling cigarettes, A competitor pops up in the form of vaping so they buy the largest one Juul. Then through lobbying and spreading tons of disinformation big tobacco gets the government to mandate them to stop selling evil vapes. (This is the precursor to banning all vape products is my prediction.) Meanwhile the government mandates that cigarette nicotine be reduced to almost nothing, which in turn becomes people consuming many more cigarettes. Way more profit in cigarette production than selling plastic from China. Follow the money boys and girls.. always follow the money.
It is true that China dominates vaping.
The cabal is desperate for open civil insurgency. It would pave the way for the full on police state they covet. Take away an addicts nicotine and they become highly agitated. Prone to foolishness. .
They just outlawed juul. My theory is they started talking about cigarette nicotine to not look like corrupt stooges for the traditional tobacco industry. No intent to outlaw nicotine.