Vaccination was rarely a controversial topic and typically had bipartisan support. I don't even remember it being political in my entire life. So it doesn't surprise me that so many people took it, particularly with coercion added on top.
What surprises me is that the deep state made a big deal out of it. If they just shut thier mouths I reckon they would have gotten many more jabbed. The question is why didn't they? Now they have pissed off a huge part of the population and damaged the credibility of the medical industry irreparably.
I'm in San Diego , it is getting more freaky here , was more conservative in years past , now not to sure , heading north it is , Carlsbad area up to OC are Trump counties !
I'm if your blood of course, My church has a big presence here several campuses in San Diego my pastor was the one that was all over the news being called a murderer because we stayed open I really believe that our church is holding San Diego together as far as pure bloods I pastors pretty strong speaking Boldly against all things democrat Covid trans and anything else these sickos try to throw on us
Yes I don't get out to East County too often but I drove to Alpine a few weeks ago and I was so happy to see the Trump flags , something you don't see in my San Diego neighborhood , I put a flag out a small garden flag and it was stolen and a rock was left on my door step with a warning note .. that said BLM only understand !
Another time a rock went through my window and I live in a very affluent No crime (educated by degree only ) area a bunch of liberal nut jobs!
Wow, I’m sorry you’ve had to deal with that. I’d be packing my bags for Santee or Lakeside after that crap. There’s a road behind Santee Lakes that I think every other house has multiple Trump flags flying high.
Thank God for Santee ... a bit to hot for me ,, if I was going to move I'd go to Fallbrook ,, also really hot but more room , The housing market is starting to drop I know houses in my area have already gone down 100,000 in the last month, a tiny house no yard near me sold for 1.2 in may same exact house , just as nice, actually nicer just sold for 1.1 and thst was only because of the nice remodel , it was nicer a block away on better street , another neighbor just said they are asking a million .. same situation ,, so it's dropping fast ,, so I can't sell for that reason and many others ,, I'm actually getting ready to break ground for a remodel if I can find a contractor for god sake's!
Oh yeah, it’s been very warm out here. Yeah, I’ve been watching the housing market closely and I’ve seen a few pull houses off the market lately so in the next year and a half to two years we should see potentially 30% discounts. The rental prices have been out of control and unfortunately those may only come down on the heels of a crash in home prices.
The rents are absolutely ridiculous if I had a house to rent out I would either do vacation rentals or rent to traveling nurses by room too many people have gotten screwed with no rent for years because of the friggin Covid business the property owners have no rights the renters have it all which of course the thugs get all of the rights, Traveling nurses are paying 1500 a month for a furnished room here in San Diego you know a decent area and a decent room, not in the hood! My plan is to get the heck out of here in an RV after I put a couple traveling nurses in some bedrooms which will pay for all the bills this way I get to keep my house and garage and yard and everything else intact and still have the bills paid without it coming out of my pocket, yes it's too late to sell now but I wasn't ready a few months ago anyway , I haven't even started my addition I'm just now getting the permits from the city after a year, what area in San Diego are you in? I'm in Tierrasanta which is really close to Santee
San Diegan here. My experience is anctedotal, of course, but hopefully, it helps. Very few people that I know questioned the narrative. The majority of people I personally know lined up for the injection ASAP. My neighbors were all angry that the illegal border crossers got priority for vaccination over them and were conspiring together on strategies to game the system to get their injections sooner. Once it was freely available to all, my neighbors were furious that we refused to get injected and pressured us to comply. Our friends just assumed we were vaccinated at first, and were shocked when we declined going to their vaxx-only parties. Now that they know, the friends will only see us outdoors i(which is fine; we're glad they still see us at all). Back before they realized we had chosen not to get injected, our friends with older kids said they pitied us for having one too young to get the injection right away. Once it was approved for younger kids, almost all my son's classmates (former classmates; we homeschool now) got their kids injected right away -- even the ones who were were vaccine hesitant about all the vaccines needed to enter school. My friends with younger kids are now talking about how bad they feel about forgetting the booster right at the booster mark and lagging taking the kids in by a few weeks. The few friends who questioned the narrative were easily coerced into it. A few were required by their employers. One wanted a medical procedure done and the doctor refused to do it until injected. The schools aggressively mandated it (there are lawsuits pending so the mandate is stayed for now, but many got their kids injected once they heard about the mandate). I have been shocked that my normally logical friends and neighbors have thrown all logic out the window over this.
PS: Two of my neighbors got stage 4 cancer out of nowhere in the autumn of 2021. Neither will consider it may have anything to do with the injection. Both said they are grateful to be injected and "protected" while they are immunocompromised.
Geez, that’s quite the opposite experience from me in East County. I assume this is probably Clairemont/Mira Mesa area since that seems to be the pocket of lunacy from my experience.
Thanks for the perspective. I could write something very similar for the area that I live in.
I am still just amazed how many people went along with the narrative. The knowledge was there, they could read and research the jab, but instead chose to just comply. My opinion is that the closer you are to a major city on the west coast the worse it is. My neighbors that are normally very conservative complied because the regional politics (leftist religion) around put so much pressure to do so.
Fear causes irrational thinking, especially when there's coercion. If and when the truth is widely established, the psychological state during this time will be studied and shocked by it.
I believe they willfully chose to keep the blinders on. The narrative made no sense at all and it changed weekly in equally non-sensical and conflicting ways, yet they refused to re-think it even when I pointed out how non-sensical and conflicting it all was. I can draw no other conclusion than they are simply not willing to stop trusting "the system."
A few things to keep in mind when interpreting those numbers:
According to San Diego's official site, around 79% of residents are fully vaccinated. Because the ratio of fully-vaccinated to unvaccinated is not 1:1 (actually 4:1), it is natural that the proportion of people who caught COVID will be skewed towards the fully-vaccinated merely because they outnumber the unvaccinated by 4:1.
Imagine the following scenario: out of 1'000 people exposed to COVID, 800 are vaccinated and 200 are unvaccinated. Let's say the vaccine reduces your chances to get COVID by 60%. Let's say that the base chance of you getting COVID if exposed is 50%. Thus:
50% of the unvaccinated get COVID, that is 100 people.
50% of the unvaccinated get COVID, that is 400 people. BUT, the vaccine prevents the disease from developing in 60% of the cases, thus the actual number of people who test positive is: 0.5 * 0.6 * 800 = 240 people.
So in the end, we have 240 + 100 = 340 people with COVID. Out of those 340, 240 or 70.5% are fully vaccinated. So, even though the vaccine did reduce the chances of developing the disease, the number of vaccinated people with COVID still far outweighs the number of unvaccinated in the total statistics.
The same effect as explained above is bound to influence the percentage of deaths too.
In addition to the proportions effect, there is another bias when it comes to the percentage of deaths. Namely, that people who are at risk are far more likely to be fully vaccinated than people who arent. If you look at the statistics on that same page (page 3), you'll see that 41% of deaths are people who are double vaxed and fully boosed (67% if you count the non-boostet vaxed)!
BUT, 99.9% of people in the age group at risk are fully vaxed. And they are basically the only ones dying of covid (see page 8).
The inverse bias is to be expected for the unvaxed. Those tend to be younger, stronger and healthier people living predominantly in rural areas (sun, vitamin D, exercise, early exposure to pathogens [playing outside, dealing with animals], etc.)
it is natural that the proportion of people who caught COVID will be skewed towards the fully-vaccinated merely because they outnumber the unvaccinated by 4:1.
But it’s not natural for it to be skewed if the vax were truly a vax designed to stop Covid. It’s not. My take away is that exactly what so many said would happen to the vaxed, Is actually happening.
The thing is, THEY KNEW the vaccines were not that effective pretty early on. Here is a CDC leak from July 2021 stating in plain English (slide 12) the vaccine effectiveness (VE):
When I first saw that leak, I realize that it was not only a small elite who suffered from a God complex and saw us as ignorant tax cattle who shouldn't be given the "luxury" of self-efficacy and self-determination. Nearly ALL institutions were engaging in these "noble lies" to "protect" us, dirty peasants, from ourselves. "So what if a few plebs die or are injured for life? The important thing is that we preserve the enterprise that guarantees us our wealth and power."
SPION: Super-Paramagnetic Iron-Oxide Nanoparticle drug delivery https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24715289/ SPION was coined by Paracelsus “Equal to Celsus” a Swabian Gnostic alchemist, toxicologist named after the Greek Gnostic Celsus, an opponent of early Christian follows of JESUS. SPION means “Spy, Watch Stealthily, Telltale; eg Espionage” British Spy “007” had a “License to Kill”; an example is .007 is 1/137 the Fine Structure Constant in Physics and odds an atom will absorb a photon; Opsins “Light activated Ion channels” are not only SPIONS but an anagram of SPION used in Optogenetics to light activate drug delivery in cells. SPION’s are the 4th Beast of Iron in Dan 7:7; Hematin is the 77 atom oxygen carrying molecule in Red Blood Cells which have an affinity for SPIONS; 5G @60 GHz disrupts RBC’s from carrying Oxygen resulting in targetable and instant death. Coronavirus mRNA Vaccines program cells to produce SARS COv-2 Spike Protein Antigens; the immune system responds by producing Antibodies which have an affinity to SPION containing Iron-Oxide; the body becomes magnetically observable (eg ESPIONage) with an On-Off death switch.
So what you're saying is I can stay in San Diego and slowly it'll get better as the freaks die off?
Realestate wil get pretty cheap in California in a few years.
If God doesn’t bun it down along with D.C. and NYC lol
Nearly 90% of San Diegans have at least 1 vax?
A relatively conservative area?
Sounds high, even for a liberal area in the US.
Vaccination was rarely a controversial topic and typically had bipartisan support. I don't even remember it being political in my entire life. So it doesn't surprise me that so many people took it, particularly with coercion added on top.
What surprises me is that the deep state made a big deal out of it. If they just shut thier mouths I reckon they would have gotten many more jabbed. The question is why didn't they? Now they have pissed off a huge part of the population and damaged the credibility of the medical industry irreparably.
Your answer is right there in your last sentence! NCSWIC! Why bother the enemy while it's busy destroying itself!
Yeah, sounds like a load of crap to me. I do know quite a few Trump supporters here who are jabbed, to be fair, but many who are not as well.
I'm in San Diego , it is getting more freaky here , was more conservative in years past , now not to sure , heading north it is , Carlsbad area up to OC are Trump counties ! I'm if your blood of course, My church has a big presence here several campuses in San Diego my pastor was the one that was all over the news being called a murderer because we stayed open I really believe that our church is holding San Diego together as far as pure bloods I pastors pretty strong speaking Boldly against all things democrat Covid trans and anything else these sickos try to throw on us
North County, East county and surprisingly enough a solid chunk of the South Bay are pretty conservative.
Yes I don't get out to East County too often but I drove to Alpine a few weeks ago and I was so happy to see the Trump flags , something you don't see in my San Diego neighborhood , I put a flag out a small garden flag and it was stolen and a rock was left on my door step with a warning note .. that said BLM only understand ! Another time a rock went through my window and I live in a very affluent No crime (educated by degree only ) area a bunch of liberal nut jobs!
Wow, I’m sorry you’ve had to deal with that. I’d be packing my bags for Santee or Lakeside after that crap. There’s a road behind Santee Lakes that I think every other house has multiple Trump flags flying high.
Thank God for Santee ... a bit to hot for me ,, if I was going to move I'd go to Fallbrook ,, also really hot but more room , The housing market is starting to drop I know houses in my area have already gone down 100,000 in the last month, a tiny house no yard near me sold for 1.2 in may same exact house , just as nice, actually nicer just sold for 1.1 and thst was only because of the nice remodel , it was nicer a block away on better street , another neighbor just said they are asking a million .. same situation ,, so it's dropping fast ,, so I can't sell for that reason and many others ,, I'm actually getting ready to break ground for a remodel if I can find a contractor for god sake's!
Oh yeah, it’s been very warm out here. Yeah, I’ve been watching the housing market closely and I’ve seen a few pull houses off the market lately so in the next year and a half to two years we should see potentially 30% discounts. The rental prices have been out of control and unfortunately those may only come down on the heels of a crash in home prices.
The rents are absolutely ridiculous if I had a house to rent out I would either do vacation rentals or rent to traveling nurses by room too many people have gotten screwed with no rent for years because of the friggin Covid business the property owners have no rights the renters have it all which of course the thugs get all of the rights, Traveling nurses are paying 1500 a month for a furnished room here in San Diego you know a decent area and a decent room, not in the hood! My plan is to get the heck out of here in an RV after I put a couple traveling nurses in some bedrooms which will pay for all the bills this way I get to keep my house and garage and yard and everything else intact and still have the bills paid without it coming out of my pocket, yes it's too late to sell now but I wasn't ready a few months ago anyway , I haven't even started my addition I'm just now getting the permits from the city after a year, what area in San Diego are you in? I'm in Tierrasanta which is really close to Santee
Rent prices actually go up in a down real estate market. A lot of people wind up abandoning their homes for assorted reasons and then become renters.
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San Diegan here. My experience is anctedotal, of course, but hopefully, it helps. Very few people that I know questioned the narrative. The majority of people I personally know lined up for the injection ASAP. My neighbors were all angry that the illegal border crossers got priority for vaccination over them and were conspiring together on strategies to game the system to get their injections sooner. Once it was freely available to all, my neighbors were furious that we refused to get injected and pressured us to comply. Our friends just assumed we were vaccinated at first, and were shocked when we declined going to their vaxx-only parties. Now that they know, the friends will only see us outdoors i(which is fine; we're glad they still see us at all). Back before they realized we had chosen not to get injected, our friends with older kids said they pitied us for having one too young to get the injection right away. Once it was approved for younger kids, almost all my son's classmates (former classmates; we homeschool now) got their kids injected right away -- even the ones who were were vaccine hesitant about all the vaccines needed to enter school. My friends with younger kids are now talking about how bad they feel about forgetting the booster right at the booster mark and lagging taking the kids in by a few weeks. The few friends who questioned the narrative were easily coerced into it. A few were required by their employers. One wanted a medical procedure done and the doctor refused to do it until injected. The schools aggressively mandated it (there are lawsuits pending so the mandate is stayed for now, but many got their kids injected once they heard about the mandate). I have been shocked that my normally logical friends and neighbors have thrown all logic out the window over this.
PS: Two of my neighbors got stage 4 cancer out of nowhere in the autumn of 2021. Neither will consider it may have anything to do with the injection. Both said they are grateful to be injected and "protected" while they are immunocompromised.
Geez, that’s quite the opposite experience from me in East County. I assume this is probably Clairemont/Mira Mesa area since that seems to be the pocket of lunacy from my experience.
You are very perceptive about neighborhoods! FYI, my friends who have resisted the intense coercion are in Santee!!!!
I have noticed a few ultra libs in Santee. Thankfully they are not the majority.
Thanks for the perspective. I could write something very similar for the area that I live in.
I am still just amazed how many people went along with the narrative. The knowledge was there, they could read and research the jab, but instead chose to just comply. My opinion is that the closer you are to a major city on the west coast the worse it is. My neighbors that are normally very conservative complied because the regional politics (leftist religion) around put so much pressure to do so.
Fear causes irrational thinking, especially when there's coercion. If and when the truth is widely established, the psychological state during this time will be studied and shocked by it.
I believe they willfully chose to keep the blinders on. The narrative made no sense at all and it changed weekly in equally non-sensical and conflicting ways, yet they refused to re-think it even when I pointed out how non-sensical and conflicting it all was. I can draw no other conclusion than they are simply not willing to stop trusting "the system."
Here's the official report on OP's screencap (the table can be found on page 3).
A few things to keep in mind when interpreting those numbers:
According to San Diego's official site, around 79% of residents are fully vaccinated. Because the ratio of fully-vaccinated to unvaccinated is not 1:1 (actually 4:1), it is natural that the proportion of people who caught COVID will be skewed towards the fully-vaccinated merely because they outnumber the unvaccinated by 4:1.
Imagine the following scenario: out of 1'000 people exposed to COVID, 800 are vaccinated and 200 are unvaccinated. Let's say the vaccine reduces your chances to get COVID by 60%. Let's say that the base chance of you getting COVID if exposed is 50%. Thus:
50% of the unvaccinated get COVID, that is 100 people.
50% of the unvaccinated get COVID, that is 400 people. BUT, the vaccine prevents the disease from developing in 60% of the cases, thus the actual number of people who test positive is: 0.5 * 0.6 * 800 = 240 people.
So in the end, we have 240 + 100 = 340 people with COVID. Out of those 340, 240 or 70.5% are fully vaccinated. So, even though the vaccine did reduce the chances of developing the disease, the number of vaccinated people with COVID still far outweighs the number of unvaccinated in the total statistics.
The same effect as explained above is bound to influence the percentage of deaths too.
In addition to the proportions effect, there is another bias when it comes to the percentage of deaths. Namely, that people who are at risk are far more likely to be fully vaccinated than people who arent. If you look at the statistics on that same page (page 3), you'll see that 41% of deaths are people who are double vaxed and fully boosed (67% if you count the non-boostet vaxed)!
BUT, 99.9% of people in the age group at risk are fully vaxed. And they are basically the only ones dying of covid (see page 8).
The inverse bias is to be expected for the unvaxed. Those tend to be younger, stronger and healthier people living predominantly in rural areas (sun, vitamin D, exercise, early exposure to pathogens [playing outside, dealing with animals], etc.)
But it’s not natural for it to be skewed if the vax were truly a vax designed to stop Covid. It’s not. My take away is that exactly what so many said would happen to the vaxed, Is actually happening.
You are absolutely correct.
If the vaccine really was 99.9999999% effective as they claimed in 2021, these numbers would be very different!
The thing is, THEY KNEW the vaccines were not that effective pretty early on. Here is a CDC leak from July 2021 stating in plain English (slide 12) the vaccine effectiveness (VE):
Against infection: 61%
Against mild illness: 75%
Against severe illness: 85%
(Edit: Oh. and btw, these numbers refer to the Alpha and Delta variants. The vaccine is almost worthless against the Omicron variant, dropping to a pathetic 8.8% effectiveness after 20 weeks)
When I first saw that leak, I realize that it was not only a small elite who suffered from a God complex and saw us as ignorant tax cattle who shouldn't be given the "luxury" of self-efficacy and self-determination. Nearly ALL institutions were engaging in these "noble lies" to "protect" us, dirty peasants, from ourselves. "So what if a few plebs die or are injured for life? The important thing is that we preserve the enterprise that guarantees us our wealth and power."
They also knew about the risk of severe adverse events like myocarditis and thrombosis from the vaccine even before they approved it for emergency use, btw. (I've read a leaked FDA inner memorandum where officials are urging the committee to restrict vaccination to at-risk populations only due to potential vaccine side effects, but the old link is dead and I cannot find it on my machine).
Good attempt at providing logic and reason but the smooth brains here can't comprehend any of it. Hat tip for your attempt though.
yes, oddly
Gonna be a land rush in California, lots of real estate will be available...
1st order of business, run out the remaining rats...
The Golden State once more...
“Oddly there is no category for unvaccinated people” because they don’t want that zero on the board. What does it take for the sheople to wake up?
SPION: Super-Paramagnetic Iron-Oxide Nanoparticle drug delivery https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24715289/ SPION was coined by Paracelsus “Equal to Celsus” a Swabian Gnostic alchemist, toxicologist named after the Greek Gnostic Celsus, an opponent of early Christian follows of JESUS. SPION means “Spy, Watch Stealthily, Telltale; eg Espionage” British Spy “007” had a “License to Kill”; an example is .007 is 1/137 the Fine Structure Constant in Physics and odds an atom will absorb a photon; Opsins “Light activated Ion channels” are not only SPIONS but an anagram of SPION used in Optogenetics to light activate drug delivery in cells. SPION’s are the 4th Beast of Iron in Dan 7:7; Hematin is the 77 atom oxygen carrying molecule in Red Blood Cells which have an affinity for SPIONS; 5G @60 GHz disrupts RBC’s from carrying Oxygen resulting in targetable and instant death. Coronavirus mRNA Vaccines program cells to produce SARS COv-2 Spike Protein Antigens; the immune system responds by producing Antibodies which have an affinity to SPION containing Iron-Oxide; the body becomes magnetically observable (eg ESPIONage) with an On-Off death switch.
How are they deciding what is and is not a "covid" death?
The bogus tests? The non-existent screening methods?
Just making shit up?
Data from where?
My best guess is that it's from here. See page 3 for the table on the screencap.
There are some caveats when interpreting that data, though. See my other comment for details
99.8% are not vaxxed
'Cause they're healthy!! Like us!!