Q basically confirmed alien life does exist. They know where ET is from and what they are doing here , or have done. How ever, Q has also confirmed God exist in the sense that the Q team believes in God and biblical prophecy. Now why am I saying these things ? Very simple, I’m trying to show you that aliens exist, just like we do, but so do higher dimensional beings, we know them as angels, and demons. So remember Alien does not always mean angels, and angels does not always mean aliens form another planet with in our universe. Who knows how many more gardens of Eden exist out there. Who knows how many of Gods creation have remained faithful and pure. Maybe the story has been repeated over and over. Maybe the serpents always try to corrupt anywhere God has created sentient life. What are your thoughts?
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Q also said 'disinfo is necessary', so how can anything that God creates be 'alien'??
think the 'aliens' are demons/tares and their father is the devil.
36 Then sent Jesus the multitude away, and went into the house. And his disciples came unto him, saying, Declare unto us the parable of the tares of that field.
37 Then answered he, and said to them, He that soweth the good seed, is the son of man,
38 And the field is the world, and the good seed are the children of the kingdom, and the tares are the children of that wicked one.
39 And the enemy that soweth them, is the devil, and the harvest is the end of the world, and the reapers be the Angels.
40 As then the tares are gathered and burned in the fire, so shall it be in the end of this world.
41 The Son of man shall send forth his Angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity,
42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire. There shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
43 Then shall the just men shine as the sun in the kingdom of their father. He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.
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Also, to 'consider' the vastness of space could be to mull it over, think about it; does it make sense?
no, it does not, and JFK pointed that out. it's obvious he knew the space numbers were preposterous.
https://youtu.be/th5A6ZQ28pE
Ancient cultures knew about far off planets and moons, they also knew about other galaxies. How do you suppose they knew these things ? According to them it was knowledge passed down from beings they called Gods. Are you suggesting the universe is not as big as we think? Or are you suggesting the reason space is so big and filled with planets is because humans were meant to reproduce endlessly and live for ever, filling planets and seeding it with life along the way? If humans are meant to reproduce for ever, does that indicate that Gods creation is for ever lasting and expanding ?
Like the Dogon people. How do they know the correct astronomy of the solar system and nearby stars?
True
They knew about them, really?
A lot of what I've saw is texts about planets which were really leaders/demons/people planets were later discovered and named after..
Ancient civilizations have depicted the sun with orbiting planets according to their relative size. How did they know this fact? Lost knowledge? How many years did Adam and Eve live before the fall? What is one day for God compared to human years ?
telescopes aren't that complex a technology and are how we figured it out too, I think some field may have been fairly advanced pre-flood and a few surviving stone tablets would explain it.
Great argument and things to consider, I enjoy your take…
I considered it and thinking “disinfo” is a foolproof argument then it occurred to me…
OP equates Q talking about God and Aliens being proof that they truly believe/know the truth about both.
You could be right, disinfo could be neccesary/multiple meanings and a good question for the stress test of the boards it was apart of….
Yet…. I don’t believe that Q posting about the existence of GOOD VS EVIL and GOD and the BIBLE and hidden history/religious agendas would fall under Q strategic disinfo….
So OPs point still stands…. Think of the many revelations that are out of this world that Q DOESN’t consider disinfo…
Then he tells us “GOD WINS….” …. Or is disinfo necessary?
This is why I’m asking for everyone to share. Thank you brother
Great argument and things to consider, I enjoy your take…
I considered it and thinking “disinfo” is a foolproof argument then it occurred to me…
OP equates Q talking about God and Aliens being proof that they truly believe/know the truth about both.
You could be right, disinfo could be neccesary/multiple meanings and a good question for the stress test of the boards it was apart of….
Yet…. I don’t believe that Q posting about the existence of GOOD VS EVIL and GOD and the BIBLE and hidden history/religious agendas would fall under Q strategic disinfo….
So OPs point still stands…. Think of the many revelations that are out of this world that Q DOESN’t consider disinfo…
Then he tells us “GOD WINS….” …. Or is disinfo necessary?
My thoughts? If there are other Gardens of Eden in the universe, how come all of creation was cast into disarray by the sins of Adam and Eve?
“ 20 For the creation was subjected to frustration, not by its own choice, but by the will of the one who subjected it, in hope 21 that[h] the creation itself will be liberated from its bondage to decay and brought into the freedom and glory of the children of God.
22 We know that the whole creation has been groaning as in the pains of childbirth right up to the present time.”
Romans 8, 20-22, 1599 Geneva Bible
Why would God hold accountable other created beings (ie aliens from other worlds) for the transgression of those he created on earth? This is something I’ve been struggling with assuming there are other created beings like we humans here on earth.
Great point. I'm a firm terra-centrist and I think 'alien'=demon/monster/cabal experiment.
Same here fren. I too believe “aliens” are nothing more than the manifestation of demons from the spiritual realm. If you have a Biblical worldview, Genesis clearly states that mankind is the crowning achievement of God’s creation.
Genesis states man was made in the image of God. This is in no way limiting that others might have also been created in the image of God.
I’m not arguing that. I’m arguing that a God that would subject other equally created beings (as “alien life forms would suggest”) to a decaying and corrupt universe because of the sins of Adam and Eve is no God that I would want to worship. That would be an unjust God.
Have you considered maybe this is why we are monitored from far away? What if we have not earned the right to live amongst the starts yet.
You are missing something. Other Eden’s else where in the universe might have not fallen like we did. Maybe other beings loved God and obeyed more than we did here. Why else would there be galaxies filled with stars who have planets orbiting around them so far away we could never get there unless we could literally make a hole thru time and space. Seems that God intended for us to not find each other, maybe this is how you keep corruption from spreading. Like I said Genesis could be the events that unfolded on earth, not elsewhere where God also might have created.
You’re missing my point. If God created the entire universe and He created mankind here on Earth as well as other beings on other planets in other galaxies, why should He punish those other beings for the transgressions of mankind here on Earth when Adam and Eve sinned? Even if those other beings didn’t sin according to God’s law, they are being subjected to a decaying universe because of Adam and Eve.
How do you come to that conclusion. Earth was drowned in sin after the fall of Adam and Eve. Not all of creation elsewhere. I never said that those other worlds are punished because of us. They could very well still be enjoying eternal life and still be in good standing with God. God revealing things to them in the proper time and order.
Read the passage from Romans that I provided in my original post.
When Satan was cast out of Heaven why didn't God exile him to some other uninhabited planet on the other side of the universe?
As far as the accounts in the book of Enoch goes. The watchers are told to remain on earth until the day of judgment. Their powers are not taken form them, but God forbids them from entering his kingdom. In the book of Job Lucifer roams the earth and then goes to the heavenly court where the sons of God are gathered. Do other planets have their prosecutors like we have Lucifer ? This is where the deal is made between God and Lucifer to prove how faithful Job is to the lord.
Read verse 20 again and tell me that Adam and Eve were responsible.
"By the will of the one (God) who subjected it (to sin/calamity/futility)
God is ultimately responsible and the damn book itself says so.
That’s my point! God cursed the creation because of the sin that Adam and Eve committed.
“ 16 To the woman he said, “I will make your pains in childbearing very severe; with painful labor you will give birth to children. Your desire will be for your husband, and he will rule over you.” 17 To Adam he said, “Because you listened to your wife and ate fruit from the tree about which I commanded you, ‘You must not eat from it,’ “Cursed is the ground because of you; through painful toil you will eat food from it all the days of your life. 18 It will produce thorns and thistles for you, and you will eat the plants of the field. 19 By the sweat of your brow you will eat your food. until you return to the ground, since from it you were taken; for dust you are and to dust you will return”
Genesis 3, 16-19, NIV
So, why would God curse the creation because of the transgression of Adam and Eve? Why would a fair and just God hold responsible other created intelligent “extraterrestrials” because of the sin of Adam and Eve?
I've always said 'Why would God stop creating after he created the Earth and all that is in it?" With the Universe being so vast and continuing to grow all the time, if he is constantly expanding the Universe, then he must be expanding other forms of creation as well. These are simply my thoughts.
Indeed. I don’t understand how some people limit God and creation to the accounts of genesis. Genesis is our story, not everyone else’s.
That's right. God can do all things he decides to do. It is his will and not ours. So that is why I think that God wouldn't limit himself to just us.
Technically speaking. Most of our current understanding of the Bible is limited by how we understand and have translated the works.
If someone misunderstood and assigned a wrong definition/translation to a word. It could in theory change the meaning of an entire passage and we would be none the wiser.
The authors were also writing to convey meaning to people in the Classical Era . One could reasonably assume they’d be writing to be understood by the people of the day. Not modern people. And would have worded and phrased concepts accordingly.
For all we know. Firmament really meant the Observable Universe at large and wasn’t exclusively limited to Earth.
There’s also the idea that we were made in the image of God. Some people believe that really meant our souls. With the appearance of physical shells merely being happenstance. Which of course opens the door to other souls in different Physical shells.
In recent years. Fueled in part by the rise of the “Ancient Astronaut” theory. Some believe the Old Testament of the Bible is an account of an Alien takeover of earth couched in appropriate mysticism by people who were collaborators with the aliens to fool the uneducated masses and place themselves on top as a priestly class.
There’s also the arguments about the Apocryphal Books. Should they or should they not be included. Why weren’t they included etc.
Most ideas concerning the Bible that differed from widely accepted mainstream Christian thought up until fairly recently historically speaking were viciously and often violently opposed and suppressed.
Now it’s still viciously opposed. But the opposition now has moved on from the whole “Purge and burn the heretics”. To either “Ignore the crazy people and maybe they’ll go away.” Or they get into an argument or insult and belittle each other.
I believe in God and Jesus. Thats all I can say with certainty. The rest I’m willing to be open on. There’s enough anomalies in various written and oral histories as well as physical archeological evidence all over the world to suggest we sure as hell aren’t being told something. What that something is? I couldn’t rightfully say with any certainty.
Excellent insight. Thank you !
Q said if you are religious, pray. I think the power of prayer is in us. Might Q understand this but also know that to utilize this power right now millions of people need to keep their religious beliefs intact?
I never understood how in the vastness of the universe there is supposed to be an only begotten son of god who lived on our planet for our sake only. What about everyone else in existence? Do they need to be saved too by our guy?
You need not make it extraterrestrial to answer these questions.
I am one of those that has no religion as you define it. I do not even maintain the same concept of God as you do. So, yes, I reject the bible based on factual evidence. It means I accept it based on epistemological reasons. Some of the scripture parts are imparting wisdom.
Prayer has a function, not only in preserving faith, but also in terms of maintaining your spirituality and emotional balance. It is a gateway of connection. It also maintains the needed frequency for a co-creation that is needed to pull off this grand reverse heist with a global dimension.
Do I need to be saved by your guy? I leave that to your guy. I am sure your guy has the capacity of knowing what to do in my case.
But let' s consider the hypothetical: there are indeed countless civilizations out there. What of it?
eh .... well, The holy book says that because Adam and Eve, on a planet, obscured away in some recess of the Milky Way, a galaxy among billions of Galaxies, because they ate from the tree, God subjected ALL OF CREATION to sin and the need of SALVATION ..... so, God send his only Child to earth, you know, to that obscure blue planet in some recess of a spiral arm of the Milky way, a mediocre Galaxy among billions of galaxies containing billions of planets ... to redeem ....... mankind.
Would it be logical to suppose that Paul, while writing this, was privy to what we know? And that his worldview was a bit eh ... contemporary with Romans and other people of that time-frame? At best he might have heard about Greek thought in terms of the solar-system and the planets moving around the sun, but eh ... I think a very good bet would be to postulate he was not even aware of the Americas.
With that said, I think such language should be considered in those terms. Because why would a civilization, being 100 million light-years from this planet, be affected by something Adam and Eve, without civilization, living as gatherers, naked, are supposed to have done 6000 years ago? Does that even come close to how you perceive what is right? Or are you into collective guilt?
But I do find Paul's words to be hopeful:
I don't believe in the lord if that wasn't clear. I was questioning the basis of the religion. When I say the power of prayer is in us I mean human beings have tremendous thought power. I think we agree. The premises of religions never seemed plausible to me.
Yes, we do agree.
Maybe some have needed to accept the son. Maybe others have not. I like to think that others might not necessarily have fallen like we did. Maybe his other creations made the right decision when it came to not eating the forbidden fruit. Maybe God intends for these secrets to be revealed in a timely manner. The Bible tells us there are secrets to be revealed to us when we are ready.
So sin is unique to Earth is what you are suggesting? We needed a remedial course here on the special ed planet? What if there is no son and no god? Can believers contemplate that possibility?
Yes.
Yes, faith allows you to hold open the possibility there is no god or yes only one of the grains of sand on the endless beach could be aberrant?
I have faith that God exist and believe. But I’m also open to the possibility I could be wrong.
Solid read. Anyone who has read the Bible thoughtfully has wondered who were the Elohim and the "men of renown?" Our Church fathers were not able to admit that they wondered as much themselves. When Job witnessed the Leviathan in the sky that spurted tongues of fire, what was that? Job is an honest faithful recorder. What did he see? Same with Elijah and the wheel in the sky the color of "chalcedony" which is a semi-precious stone of blueish greenish hue, a great way to describe metal in a society that was bronze age at most. These faithful men saw signs in the sky and the inspired Word saw fit to record them for posterity.
Yes very good !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbIhYhrOJAg
No. Multiples of anything make no sense. There is one world, one God, one garden of Eden and that is it. The rest is just speculation with no reason for it. Just accept what we know and don't believe fanciful tales. Life is much simpler that way.
You can chose to live a simple life if you so chose it. You are free to do so just like we are free to think differently and be open to new ideas. If your faith is strong then there should be no fear to hear other opinions. I myself love this topic and hearing from others, regardless if I agree or not. Be well and God bless
YESSS
The definitive nature that Q talks about SO MANY esoteric ideas like satan, the idea and actual manifestation, ET, hidden tech, hidden cures, hidden history, hidden underground bases labs and experimentations, false flag attacks, hidden secret society’s cults ritual abuse and murder, hidden agenda, hidden powerful people, HOLLYWEIRD…. The list goes on and on….
WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU ABOUT THE DEFINITIVE AND AWE INSPIRING TAKE Q HAS ON GOD…. ON EVIL…. DOES Q TOY W EVIL AS AN IDEA? NO…. DOES Q TOY W THE MATRIX AS AN IDEA? NO….
WHAT DOES THIS TELL YOU THE ENEMY TRULY BELIEVES AND FIGHTS FOR… IN THIS REALM AND OTHERS….
RISK OF CONSPIRACY DEEPER WE GO….
Are you screaming your words by capitalization?
No I think of it more as a subconscious overtone.
hahahaha ....Nice one!
Agreed. Evil is not an idea, some sort of perception. But I find the definitive and awe inspiring to be quite leading. From what Q wrote, I cannot tell you what his view of God is.
All I can tell you is that Q has a zest for seeing evil put back where it belongs: inside a box that Pandora opened.
What does make something real? The fact that someone is engaging in the activities Q wrote about? Or that people firmly belief there is some entity called Satan and worship that, in deed?
What is real? IF our predisposition, our frequency, creates the world we live in .... come on ... it is quite clear that raising that frequency ushers in something new, something better.
Hence, Q' s stance on prayer.
What does Paul write about the reasons for war amongst us? Is it not our desire to fulfill the flesh instead of the spirit? Does evil manifest itself in the flesh? At least in terms what Q describes?
If 99% would be hospitalized should the truth come out ..... It means only 1% in 7 or 8 billion would not be hospitalized. Why would that be? Because of going cold turkey from a cult?
I dunno, bro, I am sure it will be a surprise to us too.
Great response and ideas to ponder, I love the surprises so far
Nice! Very thought provoking , thank you.
How to trust a person or group when you don't even know who they are?
Dangers exist. How much authority do you give them? Do they know and have the literal truth about everything? Is that even possible?
If you feel in danger, and believe that person/group to be helping save you, there is going to be an even stronger tendency to hope they have more answers.
Could they truly be on our side, and truly believe something to be accurate, but actually be mistaken?
Add into this being part of a multiparty conversation wherein disinformation has been acknowledged to be a tool.
All I'm saying is come to your own conclusions.
That is why I’m asking everyone here. The more ideas we bounce around the closer to finding the truth we get. I’m not saying my opinion is truthful, I’m actively asking others for theirs for a reason. I know my view could be flawed.
J-Rod: https://www.geocities.ws/Area51/Shadowlands/6583/et047.html
http://stealthskater.com/Documents/Burisch_24.pdf
However....within
Maybe q was not refering to outer space.
How about the vastness of cyber space? Where the space force works in and not outer space. I believe aliens exist, the universe is just to massive to not be true. If we are the only living organisms in the entire universe, then how are we so lucky to exist?
TLDR: It appears there are good aye ayes and there are bad ones and this has been recorded well in the Bible by the fathers of our Christian faith. Angel is Greek for "messenger." The messengers have come.
You cannot have gas pressure without a container. Nature abhors a vacuum. How can you have a crescent moon during the day? How is the shadow of earth getting above us when the light source that makes that shadow is also above us? There is no gravity. It is buoyancy and density. The horizon rises to eye level which is impossible on a ball. The first man in the stratosphere, auguste picard, said the earth was flat with up turned edges. NASA admits all photos of earth are photoshopped. “But they have to be” Crepuscular rays prove the sun is small and local. The moon lighting up the clouds around it at night prove it is small and local. Space is a Masonic hoax. The globe is a Masonic hoax. They are trying to get you primed for project blue beam.
I disagree that the earth is flat. In my opinion there is plenty of evidence that the earth is not flat. I think the only part flat earth theory has correct is the possibility that earth might be a prison of some kind.
You believe, I understand.