They point out how the raid creates a precedent and Trump and his people make sure to point that out at every opportunity. Precedent is important and will matter in the future.
Another indication that Trump was behind this is that he announced it to the world and deprived the media of something they've been dreaming about for years. If the Biden admin and bad guys were behind it, the media would have been tipped off and waiting to get footage of the FBI arriving and leaving.
lol when has precedent ever mattered to the ruling class? The only rule for their media and NPCS is "whatever the ruling class does is good, whatever their enemies do is evil, even if the exact same thing"
"Precedent" is a word that gets thrown around a ton these days, but it is apparent nobody understands what it means. In a legal sense, "precedent" is a ruling in a previous case with same or very similar/analogous facts. In politics, there are plenty of instances of unequal treatment of republican officials. That people like Bannon get railroaded while Eric Holder does not is indicative of nothing...besides the double standard we've all known about for ages. People thinking that just because some Republicans had some bullshit happen to them, that suddenly will turn the tables and allow the inverse...those people haven't been watching how this works.
"Bannon was held in contempt! Precedent! Now Fauci's turn!!" as if we wouldn't still be depending on Merrick Garland's DOJ to do this. And as if they will even arrest him, let alone convene a grand jury to indict him...
One day I will do a post on legal precedent, and what should be the citizen's basic understanding of our legal system. So much nonsense gets posted that is just untrue because of a lack of understanding on what courts do.
They weren't discussing precedent in a legal sense, they were pointing out how Trump and others keep highlighting how it's unprecedented for a former president to have his residence raided by the FBI. The precedent is now there to go after other former presidents.
Ya, I get it. But it is something that has been going on completely one sided for decades. Republicans are like 98% of the fall guys for misbehavior in office. While possibly being just 20% of the misbehavers. If you are a dem, you can count on the spin machine defending you 999 out of 1000 times. A republican never gets the spin machine.
I guess my gripe is considering this double standard as a new development. That is all.
I actually did an extensive post on that a week or 2 ago. I am not sure I am buying it. But I went thru the exercise trying to figure out if that could work. Might be worth a read. Been waiting for someone to decisively tear it apart, but hasn't happened. I wrote it, but I am not totally buying it.
After posting, I found some minor holes in this, but nothing I couldn’t patch up. I still don’t think I sold myself on the theory though. Would be quite interested in your response. Feel free to rip it to shreds.
Very intelligent and cogent analysis. You go a little sideways at the end - you also need to start with understanding of the FRE and evidence in general. The whole idea is to decide what evidence a particular jury would be allowed to consider in a particular case. DJT could use the same documents in a civil RICO matter if he wanted to - there is not a special status bestowed on them just because they were ruled admissible in a separate case. Will write more when I have a chance.
Just stopped in to say, this is now twice in a row that I've listened to something I thought was awesome, only to find just hours later that catsfive has it stickied, and getting eyes on! Great work man, it seems great minds think alike!
Just Human is effing brilliant, also. Just had to add that.😎
I really look forward to these videos. I’ve pretty much gone all in on devolution. John makes a good case and has done the research to back up his theory. It may not shake out exactly like he believes but I think he’s definitely on the right track.
I agree. I do think, if all goes according to plan, most will not know that devolution ever occurred. I believe you could call this "The Three Term Monte Plan."
This is a high-effort, high-info site. Don't want to lift? That's your choice. Do we need weaklings like you wasting everyone's time complaining in the comments about how long a video is?
Nnnnnope. To the sidelines with you. Ponder your role here on this WIN.
Yes. Listened to this Ep as soon as it dropped. Great info. Interesting stuff re the Special Master connected with Giuliani’s law firm.
Just Human is a clever fella.
They point out how the raid creates a precedent and Trump and his people make sure to point that out at every opportunity. Precedent is important and will matter in the future.
Another indication that Trump was behind this is that he announced it to the world and deprived the media of something they've been dreaming about for years. If the Biden admin and bad guys were behind it, the media would have been tipped off and waiting to get footage of the FBI arriving and leaving.
Really good observation.
lol when has precedent ever mattered to the ruling class? The only rule for their media and NPCS is "whatever the ruling class does is good, whatever their enemies do is evil, even if the exact same thing"
"Precedent" is a word that gets thrown around a ton these days, but it is apparent nobody understands what it means. In a legal sense, "precedent" is a ruling in a previous case with same or very similar/analogous facts. In politics, there are plenty of instances of unequal treatment of republican officials. That people like Bannon get railroaded while Eric Holder does not is indicative of nothing...besides the double standard we've all known about for ages. People thinking that just because some Republicans had some bullshit happen to them, that suddenly will turn the tables and allow the inverse...those people haven't been watching how this works.
"Bannon was held in contempt! Precedent! Now Fauci's turn!!" as if we wouldn't still be depending on Merrick Garland's DOJ to do this. And as if they will even arrest him, let alone convene a grand jury to indict him...
One day I will do a post on legal precedent, and what should be the citizen's basic understanding of our legal system. So much nonsense gets posted that is just untrue because of a lack of understanding on what courts do.
They weren't discussing precedent in a legal sense, they were pointing out how Trump and others keep highlighting how it's unprecedented for a former president to have his residence raided by the FBI. The precedent is now there to go after other former presidents.
It's precedent in the court of public opinion.
Ya, I get it. But it is something that has been going on completely one sided for decades. Republicans are like 98% of the fall guys for misbehavior in office. While possibly being just 20% of the misbehavers. If you are a dem, you can count on the spin machine defending you 999 out of 1000 times. A republican never gets the spin machine.
I guess my gripe is considering this double standard as a new development. That is all.
Amen brother. And don’t get me started on the misunderstandings around the “they did it to legally admit evidence” none sense that also comes up.
I actually did an extensive post on that a week or 2 ago. I am not sure I am buying it. But I went thru the exercise trying to figure out if that could work. Might be worth a read. Been waiting for someone to decisively tear it apart, but hasn't happened. I wrote it, but I am not totally buying it.
Send it to me (lawfag here). I must have missed it.
https://greatawakening.win/p/15JAcM1B1o/i-am-admitted-skeptic-on-this-bu/
After posting, I found some minor holes in this, but nothing I couldn’t patch up. I still don’t think I sold myself on the theory though. Would be quite interested in your response. Feel free to rip it to shreds.
Very intelligent and cogent analysis. You go a little sideways at the end - you also need to start with understanding of the FRE and evidence in general. The whole idea is to decide what evidence a particular jury would be allowed to consider in a particular case. DJT could use the same documents in a civil RICO matter if he wanted to - there is not a special status bestowed on them just because they were ruled admissible in a separate case. Will write more when I have a chance.
They were censoring the story right at first on all the shitty websites, confused, hasn’t got orders how to handle it yet.
Yeah I have been meaning to state this here, but there's no way it hasn't been said a million times before;
If the dems just normalized raiding "former" presidents, why can't we next raid the clintons, hussein, etc. etc?
Just stopped in to say, this is now twice in a row that I've listened to something I thought was awesome, only to find just hours later that catsfive has it stickied, and getting eyes on! Great work man, it seems great minds think alike!
Just Human is effing brilliant, also. Just had to add that.😎
Really excellent.
I really look forward to these videos. I’ve pretty much gone all in on devolution. John makes a good case and has done the research to back up his theory. It may not shake out exactly like he believes but I think he’s definitely on the right track.
I agree. I do think, if all goes according to plan, most will not know that devolution ever occurred. I believe you could call this "The Three Term Monte Plan."
Ninety minutes! I'll pass.
LAST POST: THREE MONTHS AGO.
This is a high-effort, high-info site. Don't want to lift? That's your choice. Do we need weaklings like you wasting everyone's time complaining in the comments about how long a video is?
Nnnnnope. To the sidelines with you. Ponder your role here on this WIN.
I gave him an updoot because I agreed with the "90 minutes, I'll pass". Just don't have the time; really wish I did.
Read your comment, took away the updoot.
If I had pasted the same sentiment, I'd be sure to follow it with the "wish I had time... Can someone who does hit the highlights, PLEASE."
Thanks, Sarge.
If it makes you feel any better, the first 20 mins is just music playing and can be skipped.
Well, this is my clean the house day, so I'll give it a go. :-)
I always do “something” while playing these videos.
Even if it’s just taking a walk.
Yeah, I can't just sit still and listen. Walking is a great activity when listening to a podcast.
Got a lot of housekeeping done listening to Episode 78. Very informative. Taking a short break here, then on to a slight backlog of the X22 report.
I personally like the music intro because it's fun to dance to while I'm dusting the house, wearing my French maid outfit. /s
LOL!
Yes. Listened to this Ep as soon as it dropped. Great info. Interesting stuff re the Special Master connected with Giuliani’s law firm. Just Human is a clever fella.