I'm not giving up my gas guzzler - BUT, OTOH - I have a 49cc scooter that gets 110 MPG and requires no DL, no insurance, no vehicle registration, does 38 MPH and can be modified to go up to 55 mph for just a couple of hundred bucks. Hills are not a problem. Not practical for most of my vehicle needs but quick trips to the store or just local outings to just get out of the house, I'm all over it (as long as weather permits)
Some of those things are a blast too. I rode an e-bike mountain bike and I was going so fast just ripping around the woods it felt like a dirt bike (maybe like an 80 but still it was sweet because none of the neighbors knew I was out there ripping around, unlike a real dirt bike they would be out there chasing me off)
I agree with you 100%. Living in Arizona, five months out of the year you wouldn’t be able to ride a bike anywhere. Also Arizona is the fifth largest city in the nation, but it’s not like New York where it’s built in a small area and built up into tall buildings. It runs hundreds of miles from one into the other. That is north and south. Some of my appointments, and visiting friends take me 25 miles from my home. There’s no way you could ride a bike in 110° weather, even 2 miles, without passing out. The same idea applies to public transportation. First you have to walk to the bus station, or bus stop, then you have to wait. Because the greater Phoenix area is at least 100 miles from east to west, there are so many bus changes you have to make, and or there are no buses that go out to let’s see an East Mesa area. There are very few metro trains that run in the greater Phoenix area. The best you’re going to get is from ASU to downtown Phoenix. And let’s not forget, you either have to drive to those locations, or walk there. In 100° heat. The new world order idealism is untenable for Arizona Phoenix area. Period.
No it’s not, there is not going to be any endless sprawl if the New World order puts everything into place. All they want is 500 million people. Total, on the entire planet. They would never be any more traffic, but still you’d be living in a pod somewhere and eating bugs. I don’t mind the traffic, because while I’m in it I’m going somewhere I want to go. I have a choice, and I have freedom. I can choose to live in a city that’s more crowded or not, and when I get in my car, I put the gas soon with money I earned, and I drive to where I want to go. The NWO’s plan is to have 500 million people on the planet. That’s it I would gladly get in my car and be in traffic, then be in a pod, eating bugs, and running on a treadmill all day to create power for other people, and then get my nutrition square at the end of the day.
Also, I would point out that the Viet Cong were very proficient in transporting a wide variety of arms and goods using bicycles. Mostly as a different form of wheelbarrow, but still, not as useless as you'd think.
NOPE. Cars and bikes are tools, neutral and apolitical.
Illegal regulation and taxation, pushed by insurance-cartel-controlled politicians, is communistic.
Cheap energy is right. The only thing we need to manage is pollution. The green thieves have done their best to distract everyone conveniently from that.
Too bad that doesn't exist, except on rare occasions. Mostly You get traffic, congestion, tailgaters and everything else. Driving sucks, as do other drivers. The people who own you try to convince you that cars are all about freedom, but the reality is much different. You can go the same speed in an old pinto as you can in a new Corvette, because you're all in a traffic jam because some illegal with no license rolled his truck two miles up and now you're stuck here for an hour waiting for it to clear. Nah dude, I drive as little as humanly possible these days - and my life is so much better because of it.
Not to mention the average monthly cost of a car these days is about $1000, between payment, insurance, gas and maintenance. It's another scam that has been perpetrated on our country. Not to mention all the constant brainwashing that cars are so fucking great.
Even if you're a car guy, which I am in many ways, you have to like the idea that most of the 'normie' people won't be driving to literally every fucking thing and clogging up the roads, so you can enjoy a traffic-free joyride. Anyway it's a hot topic but I wanted to float it here at GAW and see what people thought.
You've never been to most places then. Drive between El Paso and San Antonio - 600 miles and only a few towns in between - all those are not very populated (<15,000). Speed limit is 80 most of the way - mostly flat so radar detectors give really good advanced warnings. The same could be said for NM, AZ, KS,OK, and most other states west of the Mississippi river until you get to the west coast and even large chunks of those states as well.
Edit: I have a downvote on that post? Seems I have a douche-nozzle following me.
I will grant you places like that ant hey I like cars too for that purpose I own a few myself but I recognize that Sprawl is a shit way to develop our country and is making us bankrupt. It’s central planning and crony capitalism. It destroys both our small towns as well as the farmland around them. And we are running out of money and land to do it on. Bring back the traditional small town neighborhood where you can walk to church and grocery store and grandmas house forget all this sprawl where you have to drive everywhere. Protect the countryside by rejecting globohomo sprawl
Left is not communism, if it was… They wouldn’t even be a freeway for people to drive on. They want you to be controlled and only use public transportation. Kind of a poor argument
I'm not giving up my gas guzzler - BUT, OTOH - I have a 49cc scooter that gets 110 MPG and requires no DL, no insurance, no vehicle registration, does 38 MPH and can be modified to go up to 55 mph for just a couple of hundred bucks. Hills are not a problem. Not practical for most of my vehicle needs but quick trips to the store or just local outings to just get out of the house, I'm all over it (as long as weather permits)
Yeah, the electric ones are ripe for that control stuff. Some come with Google maps on the display unit.
OTOH, the explosion of electric skateboards, one-wheel things, personal scooters (not the renta-sküters) are very libertarian, for the same reasons.
Some of those things are a blast too. I rode an e-bike mountain bike and I was going so fast just ripping around the woods it felt like a dirt bike (maybe like an 80 but still it was sweet because none of the neighbors knew I was out there ripping around, unlike a real dirt bike they would be out there chasing me off)
Yeah, that's a big selling point. Zero motorcycles made their first electric motorcycle an off-road just for that reason.
How about a horse? ;)
I agree with you 100%. Living in Arizona, five months out of the year you wouldn’t be able to ride a bike anywhere. Also Arizona is the fifth largest city in the nation, but it’s not like New York where it’s built in a small area and built up into tall buildings. It runs hundreds of miles from one into the other. That is north and south. Some of my appointments, and visiting friends take me 25 miles from my home. There’s no way you could ride a bike in 110° weather, even 2 miles, without passing out. The same idea applies to public transportation. First you have to walk to the bus station, or bus stop, then you have to wait. Because the greater Phoenix area is at least 100 miles from east to west, there are so many bus changes you have to make, and or there are no buses that go out to let’s see an East Mesa area. There are very few metro trains that run in the greater Phoenix area. The best you’re going to get is from ASU to downtown Phoenix. And let’s not forget, you either have to drive to those locations, or walk there. In 100° heat. The new world order idealism is untenable for Arizona Phoenix area. Period.
What you fail to realize is that endless sprawl IS the New World Order
No it’s not, there is not going to be any endless sprawl if the New World order puts everything into place. All they want is 500 million people. Total, on the entire planet. They would never be any more traffic, but still you’d be living in a pod somewhere and eating bugs. I don’t mind the traffic, because while I’m in it I’m going somewhere I want to go. I have a choice, and I have freedom. I can choose to live in a city that’s more crowded or not, and when I get in my car, I put the gas soon with money I earned, and I drive to where I want to go. The NWO’s plan is to have 500 million people on the planet. That’s it I would gladly get in my car and be in traffic, then be in a pod, eating bugs, and running on a treadmill all day to create power for other people, and then get my nutrition square at the end of the day.
One issue with bicycles is that you can't travel very far or fast or take very much cargo or any passengers.
I think the cabal would like you be riding them, they would feel safer with a populus riding bikes than one with trucks and SUVs.
Bicycles are like EVs in terms of range and flexibility reduction, only even more so.
While most of this is true, I do have one counter point: Bicycles won't burst into flames randomly.
Nor will they cause about 40k fatalities per year https://www.nhtsa.gov/press-releases/early-estimate-2021-traffic-fatalities
These are slightly different arguments, but valid points.
Nor can they be remotely hacked by the CIA/FBI.
Also, I would point out that the Viet Cong were very proficient in transporting a wide variety of arms and goods using bicycles. Mostly as a different form of wheelbarrow, but still, not as useless as you'd think.
I did see how they have these cool 'cargo bikes' in Amsterdam and other bike places
Yes, they are a good idea in bicycle friendly cities.
Form groups to exercise your right to travel by whatever means We the People decide. THEY work for US.
Find the other lions and start the movement. It's time to ungovernment ourselves from the beast system.
His use of the word infinitesimally here doesn't support his point. I think he meant infinitely or got auto corrected.
As it's written, it basically says the amount less likely you are to be killed is so insignificant that it doesn't matter, basically the same risk.
Came here to say this, the guy likely doesn't have a strong grasp of English.
I see the Liberaltarians are infiltrating the Great Awakening...
Still can get that precious money maker, the DUI
how embarrasing would that be? lol 'yeah I got a dui on my bike now I can't drive and I have to go to classes'
https://www.oregon.gov/dor/programs/businesses/Pages/Bicycle-excise-tax.aspx?lastReferrer=www.avalara.com
Oregon has a bicycle excise tax. Oregon will find a way to tax it moar. When there’s a will there is a tax.
Lots of electric bikes. No licensure needed, but similar mobility. Lots of illegal immigrants riding $5k bikes to minimum wage jobs.
NOPE. Cars and bikes are tools, neutral and apolitical.
Illegal regulation and taxation, pushed by insurance-cartel-controlled politicians, is communistic.
Cheap energy is right. The only thing we need to manage is pollution. The green thieves have done their best to distract everyone conveniently from that.
Who wants to ride a bike? I want a loud American muscle car to drive on wide open American roads.
Too bad that doesn't exist, except on rare occasions. Mostly You get traffic, congestion, tailgaters and everything else. Driving sucks, as do other drivers. The people who own you try to convince you that cars are all about freedom, but the reality is much different. You can go the same speed in an old pinto as you can in a new Corvette, because you're all in a traffic jam because some illegal with no license rolled his truck two miles up and now you're stuck here for an hour waiting for it to clear. Nah dude, I drive as little as humanly possible these days - and my life is so much better because of it.
Not to mention the average monthly cost of a car these days is about $1000, between payment, insurance, gas and maintenance. It's another scam that has been perpetrated on our country. Not to mention all the constant brainwashing that cars are so fucking great.
Even if you're a car guy, which I am in many ways, you have to like the idea that most of the 'normie' people won't be driving to literally every fucking thing and clogging up the roads, so you can enjoy a traffic-free joyride. Anyway it's a hot topic but I wanted to float it here at GAW and see what people thought.
You've never been to most places then. Drive between El Paso and San Antonio - 600 miles and only a few towns in between - all those are not very populated (<15,000). Speed limit is 80 most of the way - mostly flat so radar detectors give really good advanced warnings. The same could be said for NM, AZ, KS,OK, and most other states west of the Mississippi river until you get to the west coast and even large chunks of those states as well.
Edit: I have a downvote on that post? Seems I have a douche-nozzle following me.
I will grant you places like that ant hey I like cars too for that purpose I own a few myself but I recognize that Sprawl is a shit way to develop our country and is making us bankrupt. It’s central planning and crony capitalism. It destroys both our small towns as well as the farmland around them. And we are running out of money and land to do it on. Bring back the traditional small town neighborhood where you can walk to church and grocery store and grandmas house forget all this sprawl where you have to drive everywhere. Protect the countryside by rejecting globohomo sprawl
Left is not communism, if it was… They wouldn’t even be a freeway for people to drive on. They want you to be controlled and only use public transportation. Kind of a poor argument